The 100: Day Four

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Eliminated

  • Megan @Megan_Roze as Raven Reyes, The 100, Jack-of-all-Trades
  • Jeann @ Happy Indulgence as Indra kom Trikru, Grounders Cult, Jobi Nut Vendor, Neighbour, Cultist

Game Master’s Notes

Well, we love a good twist! We certainly didn’t expect Greg to come back from all those votes against him, but at the very last minute, we lost Megan instead. Not so great for The 100, all the more fun for us pro-chaos hosts. 😉

Speaking of twists… whoops, I suppose there was another team we didn’t tell you about. 👀 How silly of us! It does appear that we have ourselves a Cult. How will you face this new challenge? We can’t wait to see.

As always, don’t be afraid to contact us if you have any questions or just want to chat in private about what’s going on during the Game. We are here to help and want to make this as fun of an experience as possible! If it’s urgent, keep our time zones in mind: Inge lives on CEST (GMT/UTC+1) and Shannon on ET (GMT/UTC-5).

It is now Day Four.

You have until Sunday 7pm GMT to discuss suspicions and cast your votes. Once the deadline has been reached, the person with the most votes will be eliminated.

Good luck!

210 thoughts on “The 100: Day Four”

  1. Wait okay. I just came in to get notif
    If Jeann happened to be in a Cult, does that mean Kerys who’s in chat with Jeann is also the same??

    Unless it’s a neighbor chat so maybe??

    Okay brb sleeping everyone.

  2. Hi.
    So look, I know everyone’s mad at me for causing a tie, but let me explain.
    Greg’s potentially stolen vote threw me. I don’t think he was lying about it when he could have instead saved himself by causing a tie. I *did* intentionally tie it, not because i found Megan more sus then greg, but because I was very torn about both of them. And yes, tying it would have prevented anyone from being eliminated, but truthfully I didn’t think the day would end on a tie. If i had just wanted that, I would have done it with seconds to go, not minutes. Someone always, reliably breaks a tie. . . I expected that to be Harker. I wanted to see who, under the pressure of a tie, they would vote for. And what did we learn from that?
    -Harker didn’t change their vote to break the tie.

    I’ve voiced some suspicion for Harker since Day 1 when they didn’t know how to refer to town (when I said whether that be the Ark or the 100, if they were a town player they should have had at least one of those names). Based on how they questioned the allegiance of the grounders Day 1 and voting for Jeann day 3, I think it’s safe to say they’re not a grounder. Team Murphy seems to be a single-person team, so we can safely eliminate them from that team. I’m still a little sus about the not knowing how to refer to the 100/ the Ark team(s) thing, but we’ve had that conversation and I don’t mean to drive in circles with it.

    I didn’t really understand their vote for Jeann Day 3. If I recall correctly, it came down to Jeann claiming the chat she is involved in is a “neighbor/mason” chat, where Kerys had claimed it to be a “neighbor” chat, and Harker found it sus that Jeann seemed to be trying to backtrack in being less clear about what sort of chat she and Kerys are a part of. I found it strange that Harker didn’t seem to be extending the same benefit of the doubt to Jeann and Kerys as they seemed to extend to Greg. And they seemed to be doing a lot of work to defend greg in general, and so if we assume that yes, Greg is mafia, then Harker’s actions day 3 started to look to me like a teammate, especially considering we know Harker was active at the eod and didn’t break the tie.

    I’m sorry if the tie stressed everyone out at the end of the day. I would have cancelled my vote if kerys hadn’t switched. TLDR i wanted to see how Harker would react to a tie, given they were present at the end of the day and where they would fall on the Megan/Greg debate.

    edit: also they were very much caught up in discussing a cult d3? And now we know there is one? I need to have a think about this. Also this information about Jeann makes me reconsider my thoughts about Kery’s eod vote for Megan, which I had assumed at the time was just because it broke the tie. I mean if I was a cult leader, the first person I’d recruit is the person I’m already in a chat with…

  3. Well, that was TRAGIC at the end of the Day!. I can’t believe another Town member got voted off at the last second!

    And we then we lost Jeann overnight, who seemed very helpful to Town but turned out to be CULT?! It does confirm my worry that Mt. Weather may turn Grounders into Reapers (per the show) which someone mentioned may be a Cult aspect (I forget who and can’t check now but it was in Day 1)… Since she was a neighbor the people in the chat could be any alliance but I wonder if that means Kerys may also be a Cult member?!

    There is so much I am suspicious of! As I stated for the last two Days, I am fully convinced Greg is Mafia – probably the leader of Mt. Weather… This makes sense when you think of his voting irregularities/not wanting to tie himself to others by voting with other people.

    Based on yesterday’s constant defense of Greg, I believe Amber B and Harker are likely Greg’s Mafia teammates.

    Based on Kerrie switching her vote from Greg to Megan with four minutes left and creating a tie between them, I am suspicious of her.

    Lastly, based on Kerys switching her vote from Greg to Megan with one minute remaining and no explanation given, I am highly suspicious of her! There are two things I am worried about –

    1. Looking back on the comments from earlier in the Day and seeing that Megan stated Kerys is definitely Town, I am led to think Kerys is possibly the traitor based on the vote switching with one minute remaining and no reasoning given.

    OR

    2. Given that Kerys was in a chat with Jeann and Jeann was a Cult member ,Kerys may ALSO be a cult member… Her vote switching in the last minute with no explanation also makes me think this based on her trying to save Greg if Greg is the leader of Mt. Weather or the Cult leader…

    I think it’s very important for us Townies to vote together as we have now seen twice it is very easy for Mafia to come in and snipe one of us with last-second vote switches at the end of Days. Due to these suspicions listed above, I am going to continue my trend of the last two Days and

    VOTE GREG

  4. Ah, now that I’ve posted my post I see that while I was typing Kerrie has now given her reasoning for creating a tie… But doing that with four minutes remaining I’m still not sold on it.

  5. @Shannon that’s totally fair. It was a bit close to deadline. But I woke up twenty minutes before eod and was doing my best to catch up & then spent too long deliberating over whether I should do it or not, and eventually decided to just go for it because I didn’t think the opportunity to test only Harker’s actions would present itself again.

  6. Wow. This Game. I’m certainly happy to still be here, but I feel bad for Megan. And she was Raven! Yikes!!!And Jeann was Indra!!!! Nooo… my favorite character on the show. Seeing her honor besmirched by being in a Cult is hard. Still, didn’t see that coming. And a Jobi nut vendor too. I mean, THAT sucks. Seriously though, wow.

    Some thoughts coming up…

  7. So… early thoughts. We know there’s a Cult. weren’t we just talking about this in Day Three? so if it’s been around since Day One there could be three recruits so far, minus Jeann naturally. If I understand it right. I was actually thinking a Cult would be a Cultafia, with my suspicion that Reapers were a thing. I still feel like they’re playing a role, somehow. No real evidence, just a hunch.

    Kerys, if you don’t mind my asking, can you give us any insight into your last minute switch on Day Three? I’m appreciative, for sure, but just wondering since it’s going to come up.

    Any Eavesdroppy bits overnight???

    Oh, and
    VOTE SHANNON
    I’ll explain, typing that post up now…

  8. I can’t lie I would have preferred for Greg to be lynched yesterDay since he was the one I was suspicious of and I didn’t really have any thoughts on Megan but I did not want there to be a tie (i’ve learnt my lesson after Day 1 lol). I kept refreshing the page and I waited till the literal last minute to see if anyone would break the tie but no one did. I really wanted some information to go off toDay and I didn’t want the whole Greg vs. Megan thing happening again and that was the only reason why I voted for Megan.

    I’m really sad Jeann was killed 😦 now i have no one to talk to. but there was only one night kill tonight. i think someone mentioned the cult had the ability to kill/recruit in a previous game? Could this be what’s happening now?

    Re. me being a cult member. Since me and Jeann only revealed our chat yesterday, the cult leader wouldn’t have known to turn both me and Jeann into cult members. And even if they did, i doubt we would have shared that info with the other person just in case they weren’t cult.

  9. @kerrie: I’ve been talking about the possibility of a Cult for the last couple of Days, especially D3, and I believe I noted, when I was talking about Jeann that some of her behavior didn’t track for me. You even mention it in your comment regarding my suspicion of her. Knowing that there was such a threat, I’ve been on the lookout for sus behavior and why I asked for opinions yeaterDay because recruits can’t really talk about being in the Cult directly, so looking at responses to those questions would, I thought, have given some insight.

    @Shannon: I explained yesterDay that there wasn’t defense so much as looking at all options, something I do. I admit that I think I narrowed in in Jeann a bit because I found her behavior yesterDay to be particularly sus when compared to Greg’s. That may have been because I knew what I was looking for vs what I wasn’t. My apologies. Now that what I said about Jeann yesterDay has been proven true, perhaps we can all work together because while she was a conversion Cult member, she wasn’t the Cult Leader which is kind of a problem for us.

    Assuming the cult didn’t convert Kerys last Night, this makes me a bit suspicious of her because prior to her conversion, Jeann was Team Grounders, a pro-Town/Town team. If they were both Town/pro-Town, why wouldn’t it be a Mason chat?

  10. Just dropping in on my phone, won’t have access to a computer until tomorrow evening or Friday 🙂

    A couple of people asked about my N1 results yesterDay and I didn’t have time to reply.

    My results so far:

    N1: Jenn (didn’t hear anything plus she died)
    N2: Greg (said what i heard yesterDay)
    N3: Kerrie (No Result)

    According to the roles page which k can’t quote because of this phone, No Result isn’t the same as Didn’t hear anything. Kerrie could be investigative immune or something blocked me from hearing her.

    I looked into Kerrie because I’m super suspicious about that last minute tie. I’m not sure her reasoning above holds up but tbh I’m gonna have to reread it in the morning when I’m not dead from work appraisals.

    Will be back tomorrow!

  11. Well, thanks Kerys. I think… 🙂

    I get it though. I’ll point out there wasn’t a tie until about 4 minutes to go, so , but at the same time Megan had 5 votes an hour out so it’s not exactly surprising it did tie.

    If Kerys and Jeann have had their Neighbor chat since the beginning, and Jeann was recruited… at some point… I think we have to wonder if it’s plausible that Kerys wasn’t recruited or they didn’t discuss affiliations (we’ve been playing three weeks). I haven’t really had suspicion of Kerys though, generally. I don’t think a cult gets a chat, do they? So yeah Jeann may not have been able to tell the cult leader or cultists that she was chatting w/ Kerys…

    Also I was thinking irrespective of the Cult revelation. Just thinking about the fact that apparently the Neighbor chat was going on since Day One- if Jeann was Indra- who does it make sense for Indra to be chatting with? I mean, if it’s show related. I would say Kane (who she became good friends with). Octavia (who she mentored), or Gaia (her daughter). Members of the Ark, the 100, and Grounders presumably. So I would assume that Kerys would be one of those people and therefore pro- Town? Assuming she wasn’t co- opted.

  12. @Greg haha sorry! you still made it through the day though 🙂

    It would have made sense to have a mason chat but maybe the mods just didn’t want us to become too comfortable with each other and wanted to make the game more chaotic?

  13. So I’ve been looking back a bit and here’s why I’m voting Shannon. This is an early vote and may change.

    Also Shannon I’ve been combing through various player comments and tried to characterize these correctly, but if by chance I mischaracterized something let me know.

    On 1/14 at 12:33 pm Shannon mentions Acid Fog and talks about Reapers.
    1/15 at 4:53 am mentions Reapers (agreeing w/ Beth).
    1/17 2:01 pm not sure who to vote for.

    Made 5 comments on Day One. Could be laying low a bit, or not.

    Day Two 1/23 at 2:28 am addressed Kara’s question.
    1/23 2:36 am is suspicious of Greg “minimizing” Mt. Weather.
    1/23 2:40 am double comment
    1/24 2:00 am votes Greg. Also suspicious of last minute vote shifting
    1/24 4:47 pm addresses Greg and Meeghan. Didn’t like my Lexa comment re: betrayals.

    Made 5 comments on Day Two. Just to point out I had 10, and this was the day I took heat for not being around.

    Day Three 1/28 1:12 am suspicious of Greg, mildly sus of Amber G
    1/28 1:28 am voted Greg
    1/29 2:46 pm questions for Greg
    1/31 12:30 am suspicious of Amber B, Harker
    1/31 11:57 am questions for Greg. Made inaccurate statement about when I claimed Informed role, which I pointed out and we sorted that.
    1/31 3:09 pm questions the votes for Megan, feels like voting Greg out makes more sense
    1/31 3:29 pm answers Greg
    1/31 4:38 pm thinks Greg is Mt. Weather
    1/31 6:57 pm dismissed my Vote Thief claim
    1/31 6:59 pm doesn’t like tie

    Made 10 comments Day Three

    So here’s my thing. Shannon is not super active, goes after me a lot, made an inaccurate statement (quite possibly not intentional), seems to nit pick little things (capitalization, I didn’t always put the person’s name over my block quote but sometimes I did). I don’t mean to keep harping on these things, but they sorta feel like- let’s throw everything at the wall and see what sticks?

    There’s not much to go on D1 but D2 and D3 maybe there was a mafia strategy to go after Greg? Doesn’t seem to have a lot of other suspicions (to be fair I haven’t had a lot either). Could be just genuinely suspicious of me but for now those are my reasons for voting. I’d say again, I get the chat thing, but if not for that I don’t feel like I’m THAT suspicious but this feels steady since early Day Two.

  14. Well, so that’s just great. Sorry Megan! You were acting all over the place on Day 1 and we’re not convincing on Day 2.

    That end of the day swoop of votes to Megan makes me think. If Greg wasn’t in the mafia, why would there be such a close call at the end of the day there? Was that the mafia coming in and voting for the only other viable player on the board? He would like us to believe he is in a chat with only one other person, but that vote train 🚂 makes me think that’s likely untrue.

    The vote thief reveal could have been a very clever ruse that I won’t put past Greg. But a risk! That may have been unfortunate timing with uncanny accuracy …

    I kinda track with Kerrie’s swap to see what Harker would do because it was odd they had a vote for Jeann and didn’t budge when it came down to the wire. Are they in the same chat as Greg? Now, I agree with the Ark/100 comments being a red flag on Day 1 (that’s why I voted them). But I don’t think they are necessarily cult because that does not follow with Jeann being cult and them voting Jeann. I assume the cult knows whose in the cult?

    (And great, a confirmation of a cult 🙄)

    Wowee wow.

    I was ehh about Greg yesterday but now I think the almost elimination with a quick run-up of votes to Megan makes me wary.

    VOTE GREG

  15. Shannon what do you mean by this:

    “I think it’s very important for us Townies to vote together as we have now seen twice it is very easy for Mafia to come in and snipe one of us with last-second vote switches at the end of Days.”

    Who was the other “one of us?”

    Nicole was Mt Weather
    Dana was a survivor, which is not pro-town
    Megan is the only one of the town eliminated so far by end of day votes?

  16. @Kerrie:

    I didn’t really understand their vote for Jeann Day 3. If I recall correctly, it came down to Jeann claiming the chat she is involved in is a “neighbor/mason” chat, where Kerys had claimed it to be a “neighbor” chat, and Harker found it sus that Jeann seemed to be trying to backtrack in being less clear about what sort of chat she and Kerys are a part of.

    I went back to check my vote post and while yes this was a part of my reasoning throughout the Day for keeping my vote, I’ll refer to my initial vote post:

    There is also the matter of that she didn’t even mention Greg yesterDay, but votes for him toDay and there’s been no mention of the people that she had suspicions of yesterDay (Dana, Amber, Megan Rose). Amber G.’s info reveal, again, could have influenced this but this goes back to the speed of the votes. It would be the same for anyone, votes piling up fast, but I think the not mentioning/interacting at all makes me curious.

    Going back to what I said earlier, given that I was looking for inconsistencies Day to Day, this caught my attention. Toward the end of D3, I see that you were thinking I would change my vote. I don’t know for sure that Greg isn’t anti-Town, especially since anything can happen at Night, but D3, especially early on, brought up questions for me. I didn’t think that Megan was anti-Town though and thus wasn’t going to vote her (which would have resulted in her elimination) and was fairly confident in Jeann being sus so I stuck it out. Turns out I was right, though I don’t know who or what took her out last Night.

    At this point, I see two possibilities:

    Cultafia: wherein the Cult/Mafia can kill or recruit at Night.

    Cult and Mafia: both because of the rate of kills, which would mean that there could be a consistent rate of conversions.

    Now that I’m on my laptop, I want to say that while I hold to what I said about Kerys earlier, I can see the gem colors clearer now and Jeann’s is green/yellow which I think indicates Town/3rd Party (Grounders/Cult), so if we go off of that and the fact that Nicole, Team Mt. Weather who we think is Mafia, is a red gem, then I think I’d hazard a guess that the Cult and the Mafia are 2 separate teams. So. Many. Teams. 😖😝 Shannon/Inge, how did you do this??

  17. Oh my gosh, so much here already.
    Coming into today, I’m most suspicious of Kerrie.

    To me, the EOD2 focus on Siran felt like a Mafia distraction. Not everyone here played with Siran in her last game, but her play style is consistent. And although it’s easy to see a player’s style as suspicious, rather than their actions/comments, it doesn’t necessarily help Town get closer to killing Mafia.

    In this case, it felt a bit like a bandwagon to set up a D3 discussion to take the heat off actual Mafia players who were in the spotlight D2 (and maybe D1 as well).

    People in the hot seat on D2 were: Megan (15 comments casting suspicion; we now know was Town), Amber B (10 comments), and Greg (9 comments)- everyone else had 4 or fewer comments casting suspicion on them.

    So, looking at those who talked about their suspicion for and/or voted for Siran:
    -10 hr: Anna states she’s suspicious of Siran for not voting.
    -5.5hr: Anna votes Siran
    -1 hr: Kerrie votes Siran (reason given as not voting 2 days in a row)
    -38 min: Amber G questions Siran about not voting/having no suspicions
    -32 min: Amber B states she’s skeptical of non-voters because it doesn’t help Town
    -29 min: Maria theorizes Siran’s non-voting as having to do with her role or the Night Action
    -28 min: Kara votes Siran (reason given as Siran not voting, not theorizing, and cancelling her vote for Meeghan)
    -21 min: Kerys theorizes Siran could be a Jester role (intentionally trying to get Lynched)
    -7 min: Dana votes Siran
    -0 min: Megan states she’s suspicious of Siran for not voting and not theorizing

    To be clear, I don’t think everyone who was bringing up chatter about Siran is Mafia, but I do think 1-2 people in that list are, based on them keeping the beach ball in the air for the final 40 minutes or so. Especially those who talked about her but didn’t vote for her (which seems like a great way to diffuse any further conversation about a suspected Mafia member without having a vote that could be counted against them in analysis tallies).

    Who chattered about Siran and also voted for Kara and also their actions protected Nicole?
    Kerrie

    Additionally, on D3 Kerrie’s vote switch from Greg to Megan was, by her explanation, a move to tie so that we “didn’t lose another town player”. On D1, Kerrie changed her vote at -5 minutes specifically to break a tie (https://thebookishgames.wordpress.com/2021/01/13/the-100-day-one/#comment-79044).
    It feels suspicious that toDay she says she tied it in order to see whether Harker would break the tie. That means Kerrie was watching the EOD closely, which means she could’ve changed her vote at the last moment, after it was clear that Harker wasn’t taking the bait, back to Greg who she says she was most suspicious of.
    Add that to the fact that now we know Jeann was in a Cult…maybe that means Harker was voting for her because they knew Jeann’s alignment was anti-Town?

    TL;DR
    I’m most suspicious of Kerrie, and I think Greg and/or Amber B is her Mafia teammate.

  18. Lengthy reply to @Greg incoming – I know I haven’t played a game with you before but I am generally very quiet. This is only my third game, but in each game I’ve picked up on things and understood the way things work a little better. Day 1 and 2 as you’ve analyzed I was consistently quiet. Day 3 I commented more but it’s because I started feeling suspicious of people so I wanted to point it out, and also answer questions when asked of me. Two of the 10 comments were in the last few minutes to try to avoid a tie and therefore a useless Day.

    I don’t think pointing out my actions of how many times I commented or a summary of what I said shows any suspicion on my end. The entire goal of this game is to sus out Mafia, which you do by commenting. I wouldn’t just comment based on nothing but once I have strong suspicions I pointed them out, then questioned you and others when things in your responses stood out to me. As discussed, my inaccurate statement was unintentional and I apologized.

    I wouldn’t say I nit-pick little things you said/do though, I think they are VERY important. Capitalizing every group you think is in the game and then not capitalizing or calling the most-likely bad-guy-Mafia group by the proper name is very suspicious. It’s not throwing things to the wall to see what sticks at all, it’s pointing out things that don’t line up to me because I think you are Mafia – especially now with how Day 3 ended with people vote-switching last minute to save you with no real logical reasoning given.

    I wish I had stronger things to say like – I have a power and I used it to do this and show strong proof of something suspicious you did, like Amber B did; but I can’t because I have no powers. All I can do is analyze everything people say/do and find things that catch my eye, as I’ve been doing consistently. Even though we’ve gone back and forth you aren’t the only person I’ve cast suspicions of, I’ve named others by name and questioned them too.

    I find it interesting that I called you out and said I think you are Mafia – probably even the leader of Mt. Weather – and you in turn respond by stating I’m Mafia and vote for me. Yet again you don’t come out and defend yourself in a way of saying “no I’m town”, your response is to try to flip it back to me. “You owe this honor” of me saying you may be the leader of Mt. Weather (again, a strange/sarcastic response rather than a “no I’m not the leader of Mt. Weather” response) because of voting patterns, how certain players have come to your defense, and the end of Day 3 last-second vote-switching to save you.

    @Anne – When I said “snipe one of us with last-second vote switches” I meant it as ‘the people’s’ us; as in any one of us. Obviously, Nicole and Dana dying was very good, as they are both anti-town. With Megan – not good at all. Having close votes at the end of the Day is definitely something to try to avoid with the vote switching happening.

    @Beth – those are some very good observations you bring up about Kerrie voting for Siran, voting for Kara/protecting Nicole, and then switching her vote last-minute to create a tie…. Definitely important to keep in mind! And I agree with your Greg/Amber B suspicions.

  19. Harker what does this mean:

    “I admit that I think I narrowed in in Jeann a bit because I found her behavior yesterDay to be particularly sus when compared to Greg’s. That may have been because I knew what I was looking for vs what I wasn’t.”

    You knew what you were looking for? You just said you didn’t know Jeann was for sure cult. What did you know?

  20. @Anne: I knew there was a cult and I had to look out for something that would indicate behavior either that someone had been turned or that they were turning people, though that seems harder to determine, I think, considering that people turned may not be able to talk about being in the cult. Their answers could be restricted or inconsistent from previous days or something along those lines.

  21. @Shannon – Nothing wrong with being quiet. I was just pointing out comment counts especially when some players remarked on me being quiet and laying low. When you have two times or more the comment counts of people saying you’re quiet or flying under the radar, and they’re saying that makes you suspicious, I think it’s fair to rebut. That’s all.

    I figured it was unintentional. You seem like a fair player to me. Just pointing it out in the interest of defending myself.

    Capitalizing every group you think is in the game and then not capitalizing or calling the most-likely bad-guy-Mafia group by the proper name is very suspicious.

    I disagree. To me it’s silly. I didn’t capitalize mountain men? So if I had written Mountain Men it would be all good? But we can agree to disagree here I guess.

    It is a game of perception, though. Something that seems silly to me might be big for you, and since anyone who’s mafia is spending a huge chunk of the game lying, it’s all subjective in a way! S we probably agree on that, anyways. 🙂

    Yet again you don’t come out and defend yourself in a way of saying “no I’m town”, your response is to try to flip it back to me

    No offense, but if my defense is to say “I’m Town”, who’s going to believe THAT? Okay, I’m Town! I mean, that doesn’t seem like much of a defense? Instead of trying to turn it back on you, I’m saying I think your rather determined suspicion of me makes ME suspicious. And I’m not saying you’re mafia per se- you could be, or like I’ve said, you could just genuinely be suspicious of me. Which you clearly are haha! I’m saying I’m voting for you based on the reasons I laid out, and that it’s an early vote and may be changed later.

    “You owe this honor” of me saying you may be the leader of Mt. Weather (again, a strange/sarcastic response rather than a “no I’m not the leader of Mt. Weather” response) because of voting patterns, how certain players have come to your defense, and the end of Day 3 last-second vote-switching to save you.

    So how do my “voting patterns”, other players and the EOD stuff make me not just mafia but the LEADER of the mafia? It just seemed like an out-of-the-blue thing to say I’m the LEADER?

  22. Oh I just saw that it was mentioned as Neighbour chat!

    Quick question if anyone can help?
    1. Night chat that we could have is mason, neighbor and the mafia right? Does the cult could have a night chat too?

    2. I read about the cult leader, so the power is either to recruit OR to kill. If Jeann is turned into a cultist then it means the leader only has the recruit ability?

    3. The cultafia thing… does it mean the cult leader can have both ability? Just want to make sure 😅 is this when the leader manage to recruit the mafia @-@ is there a way to block the leader tho?

    4. Don’t know if it’s relevant, but the cult leader wins if half of us has turned? Which meant the leader has to turn like 9 of us (since we have 19) and we have 3 nights so far, assuming the leader managed to turn everyone. Then we might have 4 cults already? Is this how it works? 😅

    5. We have 12 members; assuming number 5 is true. Then we have 3 cults left, which mean 9 left and some of them is the mafia (3 or 4? Or 2 maybe?)

    6. This is somehow getting dangerous if the cult leader manage to recruit and there’s no way for the recruited to block it. (I assume the mafia and cult is not the same group).

    7. So I check about vote thief. It doesn’t necessary. belong mafia or town or cult, it can be to anyone. Is it possible for the cult to have a vote thief power? I thought their power would be removed or sth once they are recruited?

    Ended up with too many questions instead 😂

  23. Anne said

    I assume the cult knows whose in the cult?

    I’m actually not sure of this but maybe someone else knows?

  24. Oh I’ve read the cultafia in ADSOM so they can do two things in one night, either to recruit or to kill.

    I think I’ll go back to my 1st assumption that we have both cult and mafia and they don’t work together. I think the N2 with 2 deaths is the result of this. One by the cult and another by mafia?

    Guess it means, a possibility that the cult is 3 and not 4 as I thought before?

    Okay, one quick question (again) 😂
    Now if we have 12 members left, does the cult condition to win is to have 6-7 members in their side? Like is it diluted, or they still have to have 9 members ( half of the 19 originally) @-@

  25. Posting for reference. Who voted for known town players on contentious votes:

    Day 3 end of day results (Megan eliminated, town):
    Megan (7)- Anne, Maria, Anna, Meeghan, Amber B., Kerrie, Kerys

    Day 1 end of day results (Nicole eliminated, mafia):
    Kara (5)- Nicole, Greg, Amber G., Meeghan, Kerrie

    Let me know if I got one of these wrong since there was switching going on.

  26. @Maria:

    1. Night chat that we could have is mason, neighbor and the mafia right? Does the cult could have a night chat too?

    I would assume so because both instances that I have seen (BYOC: Cult & ADSOM: Cultafia) had one.

    2. I read about the cult leader, so the power is either to recruit OR to kill. If Jeann is turned into a cultist then it means the leader only has the recruit ability?

    3. The cultafia thing… does it mean the cult leader can have both ability? Just want to make sure 😅 is this when the leader manage to recruit the mafia @-@ is there a way to block the leader tho?

    A Cult Leader, according to the role page, recruits, but the Cultafia variation is different and allows for switching on and off of kills or recruits.

    4. Don’t know if it’s relevant, but the cult leader wins if half of us has turned? Which meant the leader has to turn like 9 of us (since we have 19) and we have 3 nights so far, assuming the leader managed to turn everyone. Then we might have 4 cults already? Is this how it works? 😅

    5. We have 12 members; assuming number 5 is true. Then we have 3 cults left, which mean 9 left and some of them is the mafia (3 or 4? Or 2 maybe?)

    I think that it refers to the majority of players remaining, so getting Jeann out helps a bit.

    6. This is somehow getting dangerous if the cult leader manage to recruit and there’s no way for the recruited to block it. (I assume the mafia and cult is not the same group).

    There are counter abilities to many kinds of striking abilities so it stands to reason.

    So I check about vote thief. It doesn’t necessary. belong mafia or town or cult, it can be to anyone. Is it possible for the cult to have a vote thief power? I thought their power would be removed or sth once they are recruited?

    I don’t know for sure if the Cult Leader would have an additional power, but yes, Cultists get stripped of powers when recruited per the role page. However, this brings up another possibility: what if it’s a 1x power from the Night events? If we don’t have a Vote Thief, this would be a possibility.

    What happened if we manage to catch the cult leader? What happened to those who has been recruited so far? @-@

    What happened in ADSOM was that Edward and Beth, the only two Cult members so far, both ended up dying.

  27. So… Cult is confirmed… Interesting. I have been thinking about this for a couple of days now, so I have some thoughts.

    Based on Megan said on D1, I hypothesised:

    The other thing that puts Dana and Shannon in the same camp for me is that Shannon W brings up Reapers as “definitely” being in seasons 1-3 of the show. While she was the fourth person to mention them (Greg, Amber G, Harker, Shannon), she also aligned them to the Grounders as well as Mt Weather team. (Mt Weather turned Grounders into Reapers.) Since Kara has been so adamant that Grounders are pro-town, that struck me as odd, but maybe this is a Cultist thing and only Grounders are able to be turned?? Which means that maybe we do need to have Grounders to win, or at least not let them all be turned.
    Someone who is a Reaper / Cultist may know that they can only turn Grounders, so Kara’s speculation that Shannon W is Grounder aligned because she called Grounders ‘victims’ could fit. (Maybe we don’t keep shouting about who we think all the Grounders are??)

    I also believe that we have a separate mafia and cult (not a Cultafia). If my theory fits, the Cult can only recruit Grounders which means that if they try to recruit someone else, then that person would die instead.

    We now know that Jeann WAS a grounder, which fits because on D1, Jeann vehemently backed up Kara in saying that Grounders were pro-town.

    Night 1: We only lost Jenn, which means that I think the either Cult recruited Jeann that night and mafia killed Jenn, OR Cult tried to recruit Jenn but she was Ark so they couldn’t and she died, and mafia tried to kill Jeann and she was protected.

    Day 2: Jeann casts a fair bit of speculation around all day, but votes for Amber B in her last comment of the day, and at that stage there were 2 other votes on the board, 1 for Greg and 1 for Dana.

    Night 2: We lost Siran (100) and Kara (Grounders). If my theory works, then the Cult would have gone after Siran, and the Mafia would have gone after Kara. However, it does make me wonder why the cult wouldn’t go after Kara to begin with as she pretty much confirmed herself as a Grounder on D1, so that would have been an easy target to recruit. Alternatively, because Kara was a Bodyguard, maybe if she was protecting someone else that is how she died, and/or cult couldn’t recruit her? (As I said, there’s a lot of speculation here.)

    D3: Jeann and Kerys advise everyone they have a chat neighbour / mason chat that we now know is true. Jeann responded to Harker’s question about cults with this statement:

    @Harker – I’m not sure either way about a cult, well it COULD be a possibility? I haven’t had any reason to believe so at the moment. Tbh it looks distracting to me that you’re trying to shift the focus on a potential cult and other threats, when as Anne said, Mt Weather is our confirmed threat for now.

    Jeann voted for Greg.

    N3: We only lost Jeann (presumably mafia), which means there may be another Cult member.

    If what Kara said on D1 is true and we need Grounders to win, AND Cult can only recruit grounders, then it could be a possibility that for Cult to win they only need to recruit all the grounders, as opposed to half the players. Which means with 19 players, we likely have about 6-ish grounders, and 2 are already out and another may be a cult member.

  28. Sorry, I got confused from all my notes that a ‘cultafia’ is the mafia in a cult form.
    According to the roles, I DO believe that the Cult is a Cultafia because they can kill OR recruit. Although this may not be voluntary as they wouldn’t know who Grounders are.

  29. My only other thought here, is that according to the roles, a Cultist:

    A Cultist is a player that has been recruited into a Cult by a Cult Leader. They have since lost the abilities they had before recruitment.

    However, Jeann either KEPT her neighbour role, or gained it after being recruited. Which begs the question, is the neighbour chat actually a Cult chat? And were they framing Greg because they know he isn’t a Grounder based on his speculation on D1 about whether Grounders are pro-town or anti-town.

  30. In terms of my vote for end of D3, well, I can only apologise. However, had I known that Greg was having his vote stolen I may have switched sides.

    @Greg is there anything else you can tell us about that now? Was it only for 1 day? And why did you leave it until so close to the end of Day 3 to vote?

  31. @Meeghan – it was only for one Day. I am free to vote as I wish now. And I waited as long as possible because, honestly, I did not have a lot of suspicion for Harker and didn’t particularly want to place that vote.

  32. Meeghan said

    A Cultist is a player that has been recruited into a Cult by a Cult Leader. They have since lost the abilities they had before recruitment.

    However, Jeann either KEPT her neighbour role, or gained it after being recruited. Which begs the question, is the neighbour chat actually a Cult chat?

    This is a GREAT point. I missed that about losing the abilities, but yes that would apply to Jeann’s Neighbor-ness, wouldn’t it?

  33. @Meeghan:

    I also believe that we have a separate mafia and cult (not a Cultafia). If my theory fits, the Cult can only recruit Grounders which means that if they try to recruit someone else, then that person would die instead.

    That theory sounds interesting. I think they would start out from a weaker position than, say, the Mafia who know who each other are (generally a couple of people) vs. a Cult which starts out as a Leader who has to recruit and is alone in the beginning. With a condition like that, not knowing who is a Grounder, would mean they are shooting into the dark.

    Night 1: We only lost Jenn, which means that I think the either Cult recruited Jeann that night and mafia killed Jenn, OR Cult tried to recruit Jenn but she was Ark so they couldn’t and she died, and mafia tried to kill Jeann and she was protected.

    Kara was killed Night 2, so she could have protected someone Night 1.

    However, it does make me wonder why the cult wouldn’t go after Kara to begin with as she pretty much confirmed herself as a Grounder on D1, so that would have been an easy target to recruit. Alternatively, because Kara was a Bodyguard, maybe if she was protecting someone else that is how she died, and/or cult couldn’t recruit her?

    This is where your theory wobbles a bit for me because if the running assumption was that Kara was assuredly a Grounder, then she would have been a logical choice. However, if both the Cult and the Mafia went after her the same Night, then I think it would depend on the order of input as to what would take place, or what kind of power it is? That is Mod power and I’m not entirely sure how the competing abilities are determined between time and function.

    Sorry, I got confused from all my notes that a ‘cultafia’ is the mafia in a cult form.
    According to the roles, I DO believe that the Cult is a Cultafia because they can kill OR recruit. Although this may not be voluntary as they wouldn’t know who Grounders are.

    What do you make of the gem colors though, specifically this disparity that I noted earlier:

    Now that I’m on my laptop, I want to say that while I hold to what I said about Kerys earlier, I can see the gem colors clearer now and Jeann’s is green/yellow which I think indicates Town/3rd Party (Grounders/Cult), so if we go off of that and the fact that Nicole, Team Mt. Weather who we think is Mafia, is a red gem, then I think I’d hazard a guess that the Cult and the Mafia are 2 separate teams.

    Also, Nicole was revealed as a Goon, the Mafia-aligned version of a Townie, while Jeann was (converted) a Cultist (third party). There being a Cultafia doesn’t seem as likely given the above facts.

    However, Jeann either KEPT her neighbour role, or gained it after being recruited. Which begs the question, is the neighbour chat actually a Cult chat?

    Now there’s a question. It depends on when she was recruited, doesn’t it? Cultists:

    They have since lost the abilities they had before recruitment.

    We’ll have to check and see if D3 either she or Kerys say whether they were talking during that Day because if they were, that is a red flag. Jeann was confirmed a Neighbor, though, so I don’t think it was actually a Cult chat when the game started. I did mention earlier that since it was a Neighbor chat, I do call Kerys into question because why wouldn’t it be a Mason chat then? Unless the Mods wanted the other person to be auto-sus’d.

  34. However, Jeann either KEPT her neighbour role, or gained it after being recruited. Which begs the question, is the neighbour chat actually a Cult chat? And were they framing Greg because they know he isn’t a Grounder based on his speculation on D1 about whether Grounders are pro-town or anti-town.

    There’s one thing that I was confused tho. Why would Kerys go out about their chat if she might be the cult? And yeah, how could Jeann kept the neighbor chat?

    Unless, she’s actually recruited in N3 by the cult leader, however later on killed by the mafia?

    Is it possible?

  35. I think a lot of these questions have to do with timing and whether or not Night actions would have a) taken place and b) taken place before another one. Unfortunately I don’t think order of placement is something we’ll find out for sure until EOG and the spreadsheet is revealed, though we can of course still speculate about the events themselves.

    As to the first part of your above comment, not referring to Kerys specifically, but any non-aligned chat person would probably be trying to influence the other person to vote similarly.

    Anything is possible in these games, Maria. 😂 Everytime we think they’ve topped themselves, the Gamemakers come up with something even more wild.

  36. @Harker: What do you make of the gem colors though

    My take on the gem colours is that the yellow was for Grounders (as seen in Kara’s as well), and the green would be for the Cult, which is why I think Cult and Mafia are separate. Cult would align as a third party-type, which as we can see from Dana is green. Therefore all third-party alliances would be green, as all town-alliances are yellow even though we have different factions.

    We’ll have to check and see if D3 either she or Kerys say whether they were talking during that Day because if they were, that is a red flag.

    I thought Kerys and Jeann HAD confirmed they were in a day/night chat, but now that I’m looking, I can’t find anything at all that confirms it. Looking at all of the three of their comments:

    1. Kerys said they were in a Neighbours chat on 29 Jan at 12:28pm.
    2. Greg is the first one to bring up day chat on 29 Jan at 1:38pm:

    Also- I’d like to point out that Neighbors and Masons can chat Day or Night. So I’m not sure why certain people keep calling it a Night chat. Unless you know for sure I’m mafia (which you don’t) it’s not a Night chat, it’s an anytime chat.

    3. Jeann comes on 29 Jan at 1:56pm to clarify that they have a “Neighbour/mason chat”.
    4. Greg mentions day / night again on 29 Jan at 2:55pm “And why is Jeann calling it a Night chat- I know she thinks I’m maf, but if she’s in a Neighbor chat she knows it can be Day or Night.”
    5. On 29 Jan at 7:45pm Jeann says she is uncomfortable sharing more info and again calls it a Masons/neighbours chat.
    6. On 30 Jan at10:13pm, Jeann says “Kerys revealed the fact that we are in a Neighbours chat, and we’ve both been conflating Masons/Neighbours because that’s what the chat room is called. That’s why we both think it’s entirely unlikely that there are Masons ON TOP of Neighbours.
    7. On 31 Jan at 4:07pm Kerys says “Re: neighbour chats can be mafia or town. I don’t see a huge benefit of two mafia members having a day/night chat if they already have a night chat. So either me and Jeann are both town or one of us is mafia.”

    So, no, they never actually clarified if it was a DAY and night chat.

    Like, I’m in two minds about this.
    On one hand, it literally says NEIGHBOUR in Jeann’s abilities, so it’s entirely possible that she and Kerys had a neighbour chat that had been with them since the start and it just wasn’t taken away (for reasons unknown) when she was recruited.
    On the other hand, what the hell is a ‘Jobi Nut Vendor’, and I’m assuming it was crossed out because that IS a lost ability, so why wasn’t the neighbour chat taken away?

    Or did the mods just not take it away because then Kerys would be sus of Jeann as she was still playing and taking away their chat would raise more questions when Jeann wasn’t allowed to say she had joined the cult?

    Am I talking myself in circles? Yes.

  37. @Meeghan:

    I thought Kerys and Jeann HAD confirmed they were in a day/night chat, but now that I’m looking, I can’t find anything at all that confirms it.

    I more meant something that indicates that they were chatting privately or specifically throughout the Day up until the end of D3 or something that might help narrow down when Jeann was converted. It could help in seeing what changed in her comments and who else around those questions changed as well.

    As for what a Jobi Nut Vendor is, my guess is it would be The 100 world version of a Fruit Vendor.

  38. Yeah I was thinking the Jobi Nut is like that, but since I haven’t watched the 100; I don’t really get the reference. Don’t think the vendor has any ability apart from, being a vendor

    Unless this jobi nut is a nut that can give superpower to someone Jeann sent it to 😂

  39. @Maria: I don’t think she did say that? Are you referring to another day because above it was that she didn’t get a result from investigating Kerrie which isn’t the same as not hearing anything (i.e. Kerrie may not have a chat, may be immune, or Amber may have been blocked).

  40. @Harker – that makes sense. I did have a quick look for ‘vendor’ in the roles but didn’t think to look for ‘fruit’ at the start.

    FYI Mods: If we ever do an ATLA version of this, can I please be the cabbage vendor??

  41. In the post, Jeann’s neighbour ability isn’t crossed out so she could have been turned into a cult member on any of the nights. The mods probably didn’t want me to get suspicious if she was still alive and could no longer talk to me.

    And I didn’t feel the need to clarify that we had a day/night chat since that is literally what being a neighbour is.

  42. @Harker:

    I saw that Amber G mentioned “No Result”

    When I looked at the roles for eavesdropper:

    “ If the target the Eavesdropper selects does not have access to a private chat or chooses not to use it that Night, they receive the results “Did not hear anything”. If the Watcher is roleblocked, they receives the results “No Result”.”

    If Amber G receives no result, then it means someone block her.

    Investigate Immune only works for cop so I don’t think it is in this case.

    If that’s the case then someone blocks Amber G and it could be either the mafia or the cult leader. Don’t think the town would block her 😂

    Just need to confirm that the cult leader usually don’t have any power except recruiting right? 🤔

  43. @Maria: oh, good catch. I was going based off what she said; thank you for checking the role. 🤦‍♂️ Should have done that. That does make me wonder what would have interfered because iirc Amber only revealed herself D3. 🤔 It’s 3am here so please forgive me for not going back to check at just this moment.

  44. Some random thoughts after working

    1. So Megan is Jack of All Trade, which mean she can use different ability each night, she might use cop ability to check Kerys. Although she did say this herself in this comment
    https://thebookishgames.wordpress.com/2021/01/27/the-100-day-three/#comment-79550 (Still, why bother using cop to investigate someone you said like this, but oh well).
    Wonder what ability she used on Night 2 then? Hmm….

    2. Then we have the traitor that Greg mentioned to defend his case, which according to Beth, is the only information that the mafia should know.

    3. It was revealed that it was neighbor chat, could there be possibility of mason chat too or could be redundant? Well, not going back and forth about the chat so let it go for now

    4. Greg’s stolen vote at the end and his action was confusing in a way. He has a chance to save himself by making it a tie, and yet he didn’t and stick with the stolen vote. Could it be that the punishment of the stolen vote is even severe than just a death? Like in BYOC2, Megan Rose can force someone to steal vote and give the poison at the same time. But again, if that’s the case, then no point for him to tie it up then if at the end he will still die due to the force vote thing. @-@
    TLDR: just my thought about Greg’s vote at the end

    5. So many to look for right now, mafia, cult, and even the traitor! Btw, is there a possibility we might have more than 1 traitor??? o_o

    6. Kerrie’s last minute vote to tie it doesn’t really seem like town move, because even if we vote out the town (blessed if we vote the anti-town mafia, cult etc), there’s still some information we can gather. But maybe she’s scared that the vote thief could have other power @-@

    @Kerrie, why do you want to see Harker’s reaction?

    @Harker, why do you keep your vote to Jeann at the end? Apologise if you have answered it before…

  45. Voting Update:
    Greg (2) — Shannon, Anne
    Shannon (1) — Greg

    Not voting: Harker, Beth, Amber B, Meeghan, Maria, Anna, Amber G, Kerrie, Kerys

  46. OK, digging deeper into Cult stuff. This throws a serious wrench in the works, because now everyone formerly thought of as Town/pro-Town based on their D1-3 actions/statements is back to being under suspicion, since they could’ve been recruited any Night.

    Kerys said:

    Re. me being a cult member. Since me and Jeann only revealed our chat yesterday, the cult leader wouldn’t have known to turn both me and Jeann into cult members. And even if they did, i doubt we would have shared that info with the other person just in case they weren’t cult.

    If Jeann was already a Cult member when their Neighbor chat was revealed on D3, it feels like Kerys would’ve been the next logical choice to recruit (because Town seemed to have settled on believing both Jeann and Kerys were Town, based on their info reveal).

    Harker’s statement makes sense to me:

    Assuming the cult didn’t convert Kerys last Night, this makes me a bit suspicious of her because prior to her conversion, Jeann was Team Grounders, a pro-Town/Town team. If they were both Town/pro-Town, why wouldn’t it be a Mason chat?

    I know the mods love their chaos, but with both a Cult *and* a Mafia, I think a Mason chat would’ve been a good balance for Town. Especially with both Jeann/Kerys having a Neighbor chat and Greg claiming to be in a Neighbor chat….something there just feels fishy.

  47. @Kerys: that is a possibility, regarding Jeann not losing the Neighbor ability when she was turned to avoid drawing suspicion because iirc an ability of hers was not revealed when she died in BYOC2 to avoid the Marcella Mafia twist being revealed (the Arsonist I think).

    @Beth:

    I know the mods love their chaos, but with both a Cult *and* a Mafia, I think a Mason chat would’ve been a good balance for Town. Especially with both Jeann/Kerys having a Neighbor chat and Greg claiming to be in a Neighbor chat….something there just feels fishy

    I was thinking about the following scenarios because I think you’re right, it does feel fishy.

    1. If Kerys is Cult…

    She could be the Leader and there is no Neighbor chat. Maybe she was turned early on and told the Cult Leader who the other Neighbor was and that is how Jeann got turned (or vice versa and Jeann was turned earlier and told).

    2. If Kerys is Mafia…

    If Kerys is Mafia, then why would she be in a Neighbor chat with Jeann? Separate from other Mafia members. Do we believe Greg, is the question, that there is a Traitor, because that would be a logical theory in this particular scenario.

    3. If Kery is Town…

    This goes back to, why would the same question in the “if Mafia” section: why would she be in a separate Neighbor chat if they were both Town? That’s something different than the Mason chat, which I know we’ve gone over so much. It just sticks out to me, especially now with Jeann being revealed.

    4. If Kerys is something else (3rd party?)…

    We had Murphy as a Survivor and Team Murphy. There are a lot of teams that have been revealed so far, would there be another 3rd Party acting alone? At this point I wouldn’t be 100% surprised but also it seems like a lot.

    Team Murphy (3rd Party)(Green)
    The Ark (Town)(Yellow)
    The 100 (Town)(Yellow)
    Grounders (Town)(Yellow)
    Mount Weather (Mafia)(Red)
    The Cult (3rd Party)(Green)

    Something interesting I noticed when I was looking up the Roles to confirm stone colors/alignments is that if I did the research right, with the exception of Thelonious Jaha/Jenn & the Cop ability, plus Jeann & the Cultist, all the Roles so far revealed have been any alignments possible. That’s interesting and makes the colors a handy bit of information, I think.

    In any case, considering how it looks (Jeann being a Neighbor first and then turned into a Cultist), I’m leaning toward Kerys not being Town at the very least.

    VOTE KERYS

  48. @Beth,
    My vote for Siran wasn’t /just/ because of her not voting. The first game I ever played with her she hinted heavily at her role in her D1 comments and /this/ round she hinted heavily at there being a “mafia in the 100” more than once on D1 which pinged as suspicious to me as I mentioned on D3. D2 I wasn’t feeling up to lengthy explanatory posts so I kept it short and simple with my explanation for my vote for Siran.

    @Harker:
    “I knew there was a cult and I had to look out for something that would indicate behavior either that someone had been turned or that they were turning people”
    Can I ask how you knew about the cult?

    Also, @Harker, on day 2 (? i think, i can’t find it right now) you compiled a list of people who had mentioned the cult prior to it being revealed. Could you repost that list? I think its probably safe to eliminate any of those people as the cult leader, as the cult leader would probably want to keep the cult a secret.

    There’s been some chatter about a Cultafia, but I think it’s unlikely the two groups are combined–if they were, why recruit Jeann one night to kill her another? Unless there’s some kind of deflection happening?

    But then that begs the question, who killed Siran/Kara? If we assume at least one of the kills was a result of mafia action, how do we explain the second? Can the cult fail at recruiting someone?

  49. @Kerrie: it’s my comment from D3 that I think you’re referring to that had, up to that point, included the mentions of the Cult: https://thebookishgames.wordpress.com/2021/01/27/the-100-day-three/#comment-79363. I had information prior to the game that indicated this would be a threat that would come up.

    I don’t think it’s a Cultafia either anymore because of the spread, though I did have that as a possibility earlier when I was thinking things out.

  50. @Kerrie you said

    she hinted heavily at there being a “mafia in the 100” more than once on D1 which pinged as suspicious to me

    It seems to me that Siran may also have known there is a traitor in town. Could that have been what she was hinting at??

    In which case, perhaps that’s the reason she was killed off??

  51. @Meeghan: the question becomes a) did Siran know that, b) how would anyone else find out that she did because it would have to be either N1 or from her D1/2 comments which seems less likely, c) who might it be because if Siran is Monty (a character I love in the show 😭), is there anyone that connects to her (someone she alluded to or anything in D2 that she might have investigated N1) or that character?

  52. Okay so Harker has explained why they kept their vote (just tried to reread again)

    @Harker:

    You mentioned this:
    “ I knew there was a cult and I had to look out for something that would indicate behavior either that someone had been turned or that they were turning people, though that seems harder to determine.”

    If you have replied, can you link me to the comment?

    Otherwise, how can you be so sure there was a cult? Did you receive certain information?,

  53. @Maria: most recently, I said that I had information prior to the game that indicated this threat. Is that what you meant here:

    If you have replied, can you link me to the comment?

    If so, please refer to these more plain comments:

    https://thebookishgames.wordpress.com/2021/02/03/the-100-day-four/#comment-79731 (toDay)

    https://thebookishgames.wordpress.com/2021/01/27/the-100-day-three/#comment-79509 (D3)

    I did also ask of Kerys (https://thebookishgames.wordpress.com/2021/01/27/the-100-day-three/#comment-79356) what she meant by saying that:

    On a more positive note, I’m glad all the teams have been confirmed!

  54. @Harker – I plan to go back through everything that the town players who are gone said over the last 3 Days, so I will certainly look. But if it’s a show/book reference I’ve got nothing as I haven’t seen/read the series. *sorry!!*

  55. @Harker (and Meeghan, I guess)

    who might it be because if Siran is Monty (a character I love in the show 😭), is there anyone that connects to her (someone she alluded to or anything in D2 that she might have investigated N1) or that character?

    Character-wise from the show, Monty is the best friend of Jasper since before the story starts, and Monty and Harper get (and stay) together beginning in S3. I haven’t looked at Siran’s comments in this light, but thought I’d swing in here with show knowledge. 🙂
    (I love Monty, too. Who doesn’t?)

  56. @Greg You’re right! I forgot about the Maya romance. And Jasper and Monty are at odds during that time. So, then, story plot-wise, it would make sense for Jasper to be the Traitor and on Team 100? Does this help us identify who might have that role here, though?

  57. Debating about the character is interesting, but helpful right now…considering it doesn’t actually get us closer to identifying which of us is that person, not especially? 🤔 I don’t think.

    @Amber: there has been talk about the cult for a bit now. I believe I linked to the summary of people who had mentioned it up to a certain point (theories, etc.) and today I talked about it. The traitor thing came up yesterDay I believe because Greg mentioned knowing there was one.

  58. Voting Update:
    Greg (2) — Shannon, Anne
    Shannon (1) — Greg
    Kerys (1)- Harker

    Not voting: Beth, Amber B, Meeghan, Maria, Anna, Amber G, Kerrie, Kerys

    Haven’t met comment minimum: Anna (0), Amber G. (1), Amber B. (1), Kerys (3), Shannon (3)

    39 hours to go!

    And co-signing the Monty Love™!

  59. Checking in and catching up with comments.

    Now we have confirmation of a cult.

    I’m sorry we lost Megan. I wasn’t totally confident in voting for her or Greg but felt I had to chose one of them.

    I hadn’t put much thought into the possibility of being a cult before it was revealed. I think it’s more likely to be a cult rather than a cultafia. But that also leads to the question of what or who caused the 2nd kill on N2.

  60. So if Jasper’s the traitor and was on the outs with Monty, and Siran was Monty…

    Jeann/Indra had a Neighbor chat with Kerys and I’m hypothesizing that Kane or Octavia are the most logical story wise for Indra to chat with… so maybe Kerys is Kane or Octavia…

    We have a Cult leader and a possibility that the Cult = Reapers? Who created the Reapers? Cage from Mt. Weather?

    If Jasper is the Traitor, then it makes sense that Maya is in the Game. Otherwise why would Jasper be the Traitor? So if Maya is in the Game then it’s a safe bet that we know who at least two of the Mt. Weatherites are- Cage and Maya? Although Maya kind of in turn betrayed Mt. Weather, right, because of Jasper?

    Not sure where this leaves us, just thinking out loud…

  61. @Beth, Greg, Harper: OMG I have no idea who any of these people are… 😂😂

    Not much has been said since I was on here yesterday, so that’s a bit … odd. I haven’t had a chance to go back through Siran’s comments yet, but have hopes I can do that in the next 1.5 hours (because then D&D starts and I’ll be out until tomorrow).

    In the interim:

    @Amber G., Beth, Kerys, Kerrie: Are you still sus of Greg? And if so, is there any reason you aren’t voting him for him right now?

  62. Also, can I ask if anyone is playing the extra games at the end of each Day?

    Not that we will find out until the end of the game, but it would be interesting to see if the vote thief power was from that or if it was an ability that came with a character.

  63. @Greg: you’re theorizing about who the traitor character might be – any suspicions about who the player might be? Have you and whom/whoms ever you allegedly have the external chat with discussed this or looked into it (if possible)?

  64. @Meeghan

    Are you still sus of Greg? And if so, is there any reason you aren’t voting him for him right now?

    Yes, I still think Greg and/or Amber B is Mafia (or Cult?), and I think Kerrie is as well.
    I haven’t voted yet because I try to wait until I understand other people’s suspicions and thoughts before I commit to a vote. I tend to place a vote within the final 24 hours, so I expect that’s when I’ll feel comfortable voting for one of them (or someone else, if others make a compelling argument).

    I don’t find Shannon suspicious right now, and though I can see a scenario where Kerys is Cult, that’s the only thing that makes me suspicious about her and it doesn’t feel enough for a vote.

    And we haven’t heard much from a large number of people this Day, which is troubling (I hope everyone is doing OK!).

    So I did notice a thing which may be totally coincidence, or it may be significant. Harker was the last person to comment at EOD2. Perhaps Greg played the extra game and his “prize” was that on D3 he had to vote for the last person to comment on the day before? That would go back to ‘Greg could be any alignment’.

  65. It’s too quite in here for the amount of players left.

    Where is everyone at?

    @Harker, what tipped you off about Jeann? What made you suspect her? That might be helpful to think about since you were right. Sorry if you said this before, but I think you just said you knew there was a cult.

    Also, a suspicious amount of people started the game with info about another player.

    Greg was informed about the traitor
    Megan was informed Kerys was town?
    Harker was informed there was a cult

    Seems like the mods were being very generous with game setup …

  66. I finally have access to the computer again! (also for some reason the indents on this comment are really weird and I can’t get rid of them… apologies if they still show up weirdly once this is posted).

    @Amber G., Beth, Kerys, Kerrie: Are you still sus of Greg? And if so, is there any reason you aren’t voting him for him right now?

    Yes I’m still sus of Greg, especially since it was confirmed that Jeann and Kerys have a Neighbour chat. I’m not sure there would be two between the Town folks, although I’m certainly not ruling it out completely. Going off Jeann’s voting yesterDay, I don’t think Greg is Cult (assuming recruited Cult members know who other members are? I should probably read up on that). And due to Kerrie’s tie vote yesterDay, I’d say she was protecting Greg and is Mafia alongside him.

    I hadn’t voted for Greg yet because I was only around briefly at the beginning of toDay and this is only my second comment.

    VOTE GREG 🙂

    I did have a question for @Harker that they may have already answered (please feel free to just link the comment if you have!):

    How come you were still voting for Jeann when voting was getting close between Greg and Megan yesterDay?

    On another (Cultish) note, I now find it interesting that yesterDay Jeann and Kerys didn’t want to disclose whether or not they were on the same Town Team or separate ones. Was this in case this exact thing happened, one of them got outed and the other didn’t want to be more linked to them than they are already?

    @Kerys was not disclosing this a joint decision yesterDay?

    There’s a lot to unpack with the Cult situation. I’m going to have to go back and reread all the comments from toDay as I was reading them as and when they came in, but I haven’t really followed the conversations.

  67. @Anne:

    Regarding Jeann, it was primarily her actions D3 that made me look at her closer to start, then compare them with D2 back. They didn’t quite add up for me and considering that, aside from the Mafia I knew there was something afoot, I thought that these subtle changes seemed awkward. I don’t know when she was converted/recruited but she seemed like the best bet for me at the time from my information.

    As for people starting with information, I seemed to remember Megan Rose saying this:

    @Meeghan I didn’t say I have an investigative role. I don’t have one. I’m on Team 100 and was allowed some information Night 1.

    I wonder if she won the Night Action Event and was given some kind of ability or was able to ask someone a question? Nothing was revealed when she died as to what her singular abilities might have been as a Jack-of-all-Trades, nor if there’s something that would have corrupted the information at the time. It also could be irrelevant now.

    @Amber G.: because I was pretty confident in voting for Jeann and didn’t think switching made sense. I didn’t believe it was Megan and haven’t for a couple days. Greg I’m conflicted on. YesterDay I explained how I was talking about the different theories which made sense to me and would have done do for whomever was up there, but today feels a little different to be honest. There’s some maintaining focus on character rather than player that has me wondering, so I want to hear about what I asked him and see that response.

  68. @Meeghan – oh my gosh I know! Usually in these Games I haven’t read the book so this time I feel like I’m “in the know”. haha But I know what you mean. It can be tough not knowing who everyone is talking about… 🙂

    Good luck with D&D!

    @Harker – I have discussed that with my chat counterpart, actually. I have an Informed Role but no investigative abilities. I think the Traitor is Jasper at this point, but who the player is? Not a clue yet. A quieter player I’m sure…

    There’s some maintaining focus on character rather than player that has me wondering, so I want to hear about what I asked him and see that response.

    I honestly don’t have any more insights into the Traitor, at the moment. I actually think looking at characters is helpful, to an extent, since we’re trying to divine who the mods set up and how. It clarifies my thinking, anyway. Like I said, I’ve posited that to me, just knowing the show, Kerys is very likely Kane or Octavia. But I haven’t that confidence with anyone else yet…

  69. @Greg: you’re at an advantage here since you know the character names & relationships so I’ll need the help of others who may know them as well for this next question.

    In your theorizing about who Jeann might have been in a chat with, you’ve posited that it would be Kane or Octavia, both of whom (from where I am near the end of S1) are benign characters. Considering that there is the possibility that Kerys is not (as Jeann was Town-aligned before being recruited on the assumption that a Mason chat would have been selected for 2 Town rather than a dubious Neighborhood)…why would you a) not be theorizing about that or possible characters in that position or b) by doing so, leaving Kerys in light that points to her as Town (when she had stated that she was fairly sure that her vote wouldn’t change yesterDay and toDay had said she would have rather seen you go)?

  70. Voting Update:
    Greg (3) — Shannon, Anne, Amber G.
    Shannon (1) — Greg
    Kerys (1)- Harker

    Not voting: Beth, Amber B, Meeghan, Maria, Anna, Kerrie, Kerys

    Haven’t met comment minimum: Anna (1), Amber G. (2), Amber B. (1), Kerys (3)

    27 hours to go!

    @Greg, fixed it!

  71. @Meeghan yes I am still suspicious of Greg but I want to wait a bit longer before I vote for him

    I also want to look into Harker because I don’t think their reasoning for voting Jeann yesterday was enough. Especially since they were around at EOD and were the only player (apart from Greg but he claimed vote thief) that wasn’t voting for Greg or Megan. The fact that they didn’t try and break the Greg/Megan tie looks really weird and I think that was an intentional move to try and prevent town from learning anything.

    @Harker

    1. If Kerys is Cult…

    She could be the Leader and there is no Neighbor chat. Maybe she was turned early on and told the Cult Leader who the other Neighbor was and that is how Jeann got turned (or vice versa and Jeann was turned earlier and told).

    Jeann is a neighbor so there obviously is a neighbor chat. I can’t imagine the cult members being able to communicate with the cult leader either. I think that the mods just email a recruited player and let them know that they’ve lost their abilities. I don’t see why there would be direct communication between the cult leader and cultist. I really don’t think I’m any more likely to be a cult member than anyone else, especially since we only revealed our chat yesterday.

    2. If Kerys is Mafia…

    If Kerys is Mafia, then why would she be in a Neighbor chat with Jeann? Separate from other Mafia members. Do we believe Greg, is the question, that there is a Traitor, because that would be a logical theory in this particular scenario.

    I do feel like you’re just ignoring the fact that Greg is also claiming to be a neighbor and unlike me, he doesn’t have anyone backing him up. You ignored this fact yesterday and focused on Jeann and now you’re choosing to focus on me.

    3. If Kery is Town…

    This goes back to, why would the same question in the “if Mafia” section: why would she be in a separate Neighbor chat if they were both Town? That’s something different than the Mason chat, which I know we’ve gone over so much. It just sticks out to me, especially now with Jeann being revealed.

    I don’t know why the mods put us in a neighbor chat and not a mason chat. Maybe just for the chaos now that Jeann’s the only one out of the two of us that has been proven town. I just want to add that Megan did say I investigated as being town. While I could be the traitor (though the chances are quite low since there are still 12 of us left) or have been turned into cult since then, I don’t feel like there’s reason to be that suspicious of me since someone has actually backed me up on being town and the same cannot be said for others.

    Honestly, I feel like Harker might even be the cult leader themselves and might just be pretending to be informed. I kinda want to vote Harker but unless their name ends up on the board, I’ll probably end up voting Greg.

    @Amber G I didn’t actually mind disclosing which team I was but Jeann said she felt a but uncomfortable saying it. She did hint at being grounder though. Maybe she’d been turned before last night and didn’t want me to lie detect her or something if she outright said it.

  72. Amber G.: I think I’ve mentioned it a couple times since then but most recently here’s the link as requested: https://thebookishgames.wordpress.com/2021/02/03/the-100-day-four/#comment-79767.

    Going off Jeann’s voting yesterDay, I don’t think Greg is Cult (assuming recruited Cult members know who other members are? I should probably read up on that).

    While I understand this point one day, I’d be cautious because it can change Day to Day assuming the Cult powers work that they can recruit each Night (better safe than sorry).

    @Kerys:

    I can’t imagine the cult members being able to communicate with the cult leader either. I think that the mods just email a recruited player and let them know that they’ve lost their abilities.

    Except that in both cases of Cult activity in previous games, there has been a Cult chat (BYOC & ADSOM). Are you suggesting that this is the game where there suddenly wouldn’t be one?

    I do feel like you’re just ignoring the fact that Greg is also claiming to be a neighbor and unlike me, he doesn’t have anyone backing him up. You ignored this fact yesterday and focused on Jeann and now you’re choosing to focus on me.

    I did focus on Jeann yesterDay because, as I said, I found her actions personally more suspicious. I’m questioning some of Greg’s comments today as well as yours, though you in connection to Jeann are certainly interesting.

    Honestly, I feel like Harker might even be the cult leader themselves and might just be pretending to be informed. I kinda want to vote Harker but unless their name ends up on the board, I’ll probably end up voting Greg.

    That would be a big brained move. 😆 Wasn’t there someone who did that in the HP game or something? I think I heard about it once. It isn’t the case here, but thank you for thinking me so capable as coming up with a plan like that. 😘

  73. @ Harker, Right, I realize there’d been talk, I just hadn’t thought of that possibility in general for the show, so I wasn’t sure how people were getting that idea from it. I was thinking about Alie and thinking of her as a sort of Thunderhead player so I wasn’t sure if we’d see the City of Light aspect at all. I’m guessing that’s what the cult is though.

    I hadn’t thought of any of the 100 as being a traitor but the thought of Murphy or Jasper being one is really interesting. I know it was mentioned previously about Lexa betraying Clarke thus being a traitor and I think she would be a serious choice for that role, assuming it exists.

  74. Hi! Sorry I haven’t been around, busy few days, but I should have more time now that it’s the weekend!

    @Meeghan, I am still sus of Greg, but I also still have mixed feelings b/c of the vote thievery & the cult reveal.I think from a game perspective, with so many small groups, i think it’s reasonable to believe there might be more than one neighbor chat. Currently i’m the most suspicious of Greg, Harker, and Kerys and haven’t voted yet because I’m currently going over my thoughts re:chats and cults and traitors. I want to have a look over the last few days worth of comments with regard to the cult info before I cast my vote.

    @Kerys: “Maybe she’d been turned before last night and didn’t want me to lie detect her or something if she outright said it.”
    Does this mean you have a lie detector ability like Siran did? And if so, did you use it to check Greg’s claims from the last Day?

  75. @Shannon (mod) thanx!!!

    @Harker- I may not be understanding your question entirely, so my apologies, but as far as Kerys goes. Yeah I think she’s Kane or Octavia, but obviously that doesn’t mean she’s not a raving cultist now. 🙂 But sure, I could be totally wrong. That’s just who I see Indra interacting with?

    And I’m not entirely convinced that a Mason chat would have been selected for them just because they’re both Town- if they were. My chat isn’t a Mason chat! I can see the mods setting up several , as you put it, dubious Neighborhood chats because they’re mean and crafty that way. No , seriously, I can see it.

    @Meeghan – I’ve played twice.

    @Kerys- -I can see your suspicions but I’m not there yet w/ Harker. The fact that they DIDN’T change their vote yesterday makes me trust them a tad more- they clearly (at least in my view) have info we don’t and may or may not have shared it all, but I feel like they’re pro- Townie ATM?

    I think that the mods just email a recruited player and let them know that they’ve lost their abilities. I don’t see why there would be direct communication between the cult leader and cultist

    I’m not sure so this may be a dumb statement, but the Roles say that a cult wins when enough people are suborned so that they control the lynch. Doesn’t this indicate they have some means of communicating, otherwise how would they coordinate to control the lynch? Or does that definition just mean in theory they control the lynch as a cult, so when the cult hits a certain number it’s game over?

  76. Does this mean you have a lie detector ability like Siran did? And if so, did you use it to check Greg’s claims from the last Day?

    YES please check!

  77. @Greg

    I can see the mods setting up several , as you put it, dubious Neighborhood chats because they’re mean and crafty that way. No , seriously, I can see it.

    Are you trying to tell us you have another power, like eavesdropping or something, that gives you access to all the Neighbor/Mason chats in this game?
    And since you say your chat isn’t a Mason chat, as a bolster to this argument, then you have confirmed the alignment of your chat partner(s) to be Town/pro-Town somehow?

  78. The more I think about it the more likely it actually is, to me, that there are several Neighbor chats. Keep everyone guessing. From a show standpoint, you have Lincoln and Octavia, Lexa and Clarke, Kane and Indra- all kinds of communication across groups. Conflicting loyalties. Why not represent that in the Game?

  79. @Kerys:

    Maybe she’d been turned before last night and didn’t want me to lie detect her or something if she outright said it.

    Assuming, since you’ve chosen to say this now, it indicates some sort of ability, have you been able to confirm anything in the past? I would have thought with the suspicion of Greg in D3 that that would have been up there, but perhaps there’s someone/something else going on or it’s limited?

    @Beth:

    Are you trying to tell us you have another power, like eavesdropping or something, that gives you access to all the Neighbor/Mason chats in this game?

    Maaaaybe a twist on the Beholder role because it can see actions taken around a user? I don’t know though. This is an awful lot of things that are popping up around Greg which confuse me because it doesn’t add up to the kind of player I’ve seen in the past. Saying they have all these abilities sounds desperate (not that they’re saying they’re a Beholder, but knowing there’s a Traitor, they’re in a chat, that “I can see it” comment which sounds almost heavy handed. What could be the reason for this?

    And since you say your chat isn’t a Mason chat, as a bolster to this argument, then you have confirmed the alignment of your chat partner(s) to be Town/pro-Town somehow?

    I’m still suspicious of the Neighbors chats being made up of same alignment groupings, to be honest. I will try to keep an open mind if I see information to that effect as I’m reading through comments again.

  80. Oh sorry I didn’t see your comment before I commented. @Beth

    No I am not claiming that, unfortunately! No Eavesdropping for me and no proof, just my thinking. And I have not confirmed my partner’s alignment! Just like Jeann and Kerys, we can’t prove who each other might be, alas.

  81. @Harker –

    Saying they have all these abilities sounds desperate (not that they’re saying they’re a Beholder, but knowing there’s a Traitor, they’re in a chat, that “I can see it” comment which sounds almost heavy handed.

    The only abilities I’m claiming are that I’m Informed (revealed that already) and a chat. And I was Vote stolen yesterday. All of those things can be checked if there is a Lie detector and I hope someone does! Considering some of the abilities that have been revealed I don’t think it seems too heavy handed? I mean, look at Murphy!

    Oh, and I was just looking back at Murphy and saw that Siran was a Lie detector. I had forgotten that. So maybe if there was only one then Kerys doesn’t have that ability and was just saying in general…

  82. @Greg: maybe it was just that it all came out at once/in one Day. 😂 I also thought that you were alluding to something today with regards to other chats, but I see now that you’ve answered Beth about that. Apologies, it’s been very busy around these parts.

    If there is a Lie Detector still about (and/or if Kerys is it), can they check all those claims or is it a single claim type thing? Like, “Greg said he was in a chat” or “Greg said there was a Traitor”, pick one? 🤔

  83. @Harker I can definitely see that. Especially since I was under the gun and one would expect a little desperation in those circumstances. 🙂

    N problem! I hope all is well.

    And I don’t know but I’d love it if they could check! All, preferably. Or either one! 🙂

  84. I am also interested in Kerys’ comment, and would like to hear more on this:

    didn’t want me to lie detect her or something if she outright said it

    @Greg – did you play on Night 2 by any chance?

    I only got halfway through my notes yesterday, but I have time now since I just woke up. I shall be back soon.

  85. Okay, so I have a theory and I’d love to hear other player’s thoughts on this, but I think Kerys is an absorber and anti-town.

    Firstly, take a look at the role page for Absorber, which says:
    “If the Absorber is Anti-Town, the Absorber takes on the special roles of the players that they eliminate instead of passively copying whoever targets them.”

    Recall Kerys’ earlier comment about Jeann not wanting to “lie detect” her. And who had lie detection abilities? Siran, who was eliminated Night 2. This could then explain Siran’s death N2, and if Kerys was recruited by the cult or targeted someone who was protected night 3 (perhaps Amber G who had revealed a useful ability and was the most likely to be protected N3) why there was not a second night death toDay

    Here are some of Kerys’s comments/actions over the last few days:

    D1
    -Votes for Harker D1, admits her vote looks like bandwagoning
    -*knowingly* Ties the vote D1 with one minute to go “I’m sorry to tie this but /CANCEL VOTE/ VOTE NICOLE”

    D2:
    -defends tie saying she wanted to protect Kara who seemed more important than Nicole, & didn’t know a tie would result in no elimination (note that an earlier voting update had noted that a tie results in no elimination. I personally have been known to only vaguely skim the voting updates, so I *could* believe that Kerys didn’t see it, *but* it’s not provable and seems unlikely given that she was counting up the number of votes for players earlier when deciding to vote for Harker)
    -when Harker asks her why she thinks all the groups have been confirmed, she responds, “@Harker yikes I misread – I just saw the word confirmed and skimmed over the rest of the sentence 🤦‍♀️ that is curious though – i wonder if there’s another mafia/third party. Are there any arsonist/cultist type characters (the only other third party peeps i can think off at the moment) in the series?” Keep in mind we didn’t know about the cult at this point in time and Harker had yet to bring up their list of cult mentions from the previous days.

    d3:
    -Insinuates in her early Day 3 comments that Siran was the mafia target, and is then questioned on this by myself and Jeann

    -if she had a chat with Jeann, why did Jeann ask this in the main discussion? If I were Jeann, I’d have asked in the neighbor chat *first* in case Kerys had information that might put her in danger of being targeted by the mafia in case it was revealed she had an investigative role. Potential explanations: Jeann knew Kerys had killed Siran, and was offering her an opportunity to backtrack her earlier statement. Option 2, Jeann was trying to distance herself from Kerys in case the comment got her in trouble–perhaps Kerys had already been recruited into the cult?

    -With Kerys and Jeann revealed as chat members, and Jeann recruited to the cult I still think its likely that the cult leader recruited Kerys last Night, especially as they had no reason to believe the cult’s existence would come to light today.

    -if Kerys has a lie detector ability, why wouldn’t she have used it on Greg the night after his chat was revealed?

    -Kerys has also been much quieter toDay than previous days with 8 comments D1, 8 comments D2, 12 comments D3 and only 4 today. This in itself isn’t suspicious, but i thought it worth noting.

    I’m going to

    VOTE KERYS

    as we’re nearing end of day and because of the time difference, I usually am unable to check in until near the last hour of the day.

    Again, I’d love to hear other player’s thoughts on the above.

  86. Voting Update:
    Greg (3) — Shannon, Anne, Amber G.
    Shannon (1) — Greg
    Kerys (2)- Harker, Kerrie
    Kerrie (1)- Beth

    Not voting: Amber B., Meeghan, Maria, Anna, Kerys

    Haven’t met comment minimum: Anna (1), Amber G. (2), Amber B. (2)

    17 hours left!

  87. We are… All over the place right now… I think it’s really important for us to focus on our biggest suspicion of who is Mafia and vote together to get them out before we have another issue like Day 3. Not sure the best way to go about doing that, but this voting board is scaring me heading into the last 16 hours of the Day.

  88. WAIT what if Jeann’s Neighbor status isn’t crossed out because it was something she gained when she joined the cult?????

    @Harker, didn’t you say the last two times there was a cult in TBG they had their own chat?

  89. So I have been thinking perhaps about Jeann’s neigbor’s role and chat that wasn’t crossed. Could it be that the Neighbor chat she has is actually the Cult Chat? Perhaps that’s why it wasn’t crossed.

    We have 12 people left. If the cult leader manage to turn everyone since N1, we would have 4 cults, now 3 with Jeann’s death; and then the mafia could consist of 2 or 3 maybe? and add with 1 traitor; we would have like 4 in mafia; then 7 in total for the anti-town…

    Doesn’t look good right now 😶; I guess I want to focus on the cult now that we know it’s real. But again, we can always let the mafia and cult face each other (mafia kills the cult or the cultist leader turn mafia into a cult, the latter one is possible right).

    When I look at the cultist leader’ role and their condition to win:

    “The Cult wins when it comprises half of the player list, at which time it controls the lynch and trivializes the rest of the game.”

    Assuming that the half of the players is diluted (now since there’s 12 of us, they only need 6-7 people instead of the 10 people at the beginning); but anyway, I was reading the Cult in the BYOC, which apparently doesn’t mean that the cult necessarily need 6-7 people for them to win; as long as their vote is in the majority and the one they want to lynch is lynched.

    Now, if we look at D3 when Amber G mentioned about Greg, I think the cult think this as a good chance to vote for Greg and to join the majority as the win conditions. Which means, somehow then, if we vote for Greg today, it could be that the cult will win? Not sure.

    Also, this is what I found in a Night Chat for Cult in BYOC from Megan Rose:

    Just hope everyone doesn’t pounce on me or no new cult members! Though we could still win if you’re the last person standing. The cult just needs the majority to win (:

    In D3, we only need 7 votes, so assuming the cult is already consist of 3 people, then they can mostly drive the vote in the Day. But again, I might be overthinking. Haha.

    So whoever has played with a cult before, does it win automatically if the person they want to lynch in the Day has been lynched?
    I.e. the cult agree to lynch Greg and Greg was lynched in the Day, does that automatically make the cult win? @-@

  90. @Kerrie: that is definitely an interesting theory. 🤯🤔 If we went along with that line of thought, then the Absorber would have to have a killing ability as well to take out Siran and then absorb their ability in this scenario, yes? I don’t imagine that a Mafia kill would randomly assign an ability from their Night kill to an Absorber on their team, but who knows? 🤷‍♂️

    Re: Jeann’s question to Kerys – that is a good question. Kind of a huh.

    Kerys’s

    Also, I wouldn’t have expected the mafia to target Siran, since we all started questioning her at the end of yesterDay and it would have made for some chaos and distraction today.

    Jeann’s

    @Kerys – How do you know the Mafia targeted Siran and not Kara?

    For reference.

    There are some little things about Greg that I’m taking note of, such as

    I was actually thinking a Cult would be a Cultafia, with my suspicion that Reapers were a thing. I still feel like they’re playing a role, somehow. No real evidence, just a hunch

    Which, while I get, as we’ve talked things out today, has me considering the theory, after looking at others in previous days, that Greg is hedging some info here. Consider the gem colors, the confirmed teams in relation to them, and so forth. Also when he said:

    If Kerys and Jeann have had their Neighbor chat since the beginning, and Jeann was recruited… at some point… I think we have to wonder if it’s plausible that Kerys wasn’t recruited or they didn’t discuss affiliations (we’ve been playing three weeks). I haven’t really had suspicion of Kerys though, generally. I don’t think a cult gets a chat, do they? So yeah Jeann may not have been able to tell the cult leader or cultists that she was chatting w/ Kerys…

    What are the odds that the cult/cultafia wouldn’t get a chat this time? The mods can do what they like of course, but still. 🤔

    @Greg:

    I may not be understanding your question entirely, so my apologies, but as far as Kerys goes. Yeah I think she’s Kane or Octavia, but obviously that doesn’t mean she’s not a raving cultist now.

    I’m sorry if it came out convoluted. Basically, what I was trying to ask was, considering that a) Jeann was revealed as initially Town-aligned-then-Cult-recruited and b) Kerys had voted for you the day before, so far as I know the characters you had theorized Kerys as being were friendlies (assuming she hadn’t been recruited). I was wondering why. If I’m wrong about them, since I’ve seen much less of the show, please let me know.

    @Kerrie:

    WAIT what if Jeann’s Neighbor status isn’t crossed out because it was something she gained when she joined the cult?????

    @Harker, didn’t you say the last two times there was a cult in TBG they had their own chat?

    Yes. In BYOC1 there was a Cult that had a chat but no Neighbor/Mason Roles so there wouldn’t be extra chats. In ADSOM there was a Cultafia and Masons who each had their own chats. Each game is it’s own thing, but that is previous experience that I’ve seen. I…don’t think that becoming a Neighbor is something that would be granted upon being recruited as a Cultist to be honest if the past is anything to go by, though the “not to arouse suspicion” explanation is plausible.

    @Maria: I’m not 100% sure of the win conditions for them because the one time I played I only came in at the end. If I’m reading the role correctly, it would mean a majority of votes on the board of a given day, not a specific person. I.e., if there are 12 votes up, they would need 7. If there are 11, they’d need 6, and so on.

    At the moment I’m suspicious of Kerys the most and a bit more of Greg because with what I’ve thought of Kerys today, plus what I’ve asked above, I feel like it might be directing some attention away from her? I want to hear what he says though so let’s see. Gotta ask those questions. 😅🕵️‍♂️

  91. @Harker – not trying to deflect attention from Kerys, but yes- if by chance Kerys were Kane or Octavia, they would presumably be friendlies? I’d assume Kane is Ark and Octavia is 100. But again these are all assumptions. And if she was then co- opted by the Cult it wouldn’t matter her original affiliation as she’s be Cultist, obvs. I hope I’m answering your question?

    And I could be completely wrong! Again, I was just trying to extrapolate from a story POV who Indra made sense to be a Neighbor with. 🙂

    Something Kerrie said struck out at me though.

    D1
    -Votes for Harker D1, admits her vote looks like bandwagoning
    -*knowingly* Ties the vote D1 with one minute to go “I’m sorry to tie this but /CANCEL VOTE/ VOTE NICOLE”

    It just occurred to me, reading that, that Kerys also made a very last minute vote change on D3 as well. Granted, it was in my favor, but still… interesting pattern? Just an observation, I haven’t been super sus of Kerys to this point.

    -if Kerys has a lie detector ability, why wouldn’t she have used it on Greg the night after his chat was revealed?

    Maybe Kerys can address this Lie detector issue and whether she has one or was just generalizing…

  92. @Harker, thanks! I guess it still means they need like 3 more people to their side then to win this game.

    I have been reading the roles again and then I was thinking maybe the mafia has a role of mailman? As apparently mailman alignment to any. So the mafia who has this role is looking for the traitor and with Kara’s vindication to Greg at D1, the mafia might thought Greg is a traitor. That’s why he got this information and told us instead?

    Also, I am still 50:50 about Greg in a way.
    Because at EOD3, he can always vote for Megan and tied it up, but instead he kept the voting thief. I guess whatever punishment he had if he doesn’t vote is more severe than being lynched out. Like his teammate will lose all their abilities or that will be killed in the night? 😱
    So why kept the vote if he’s the mafia?

    In addition to that, why not just kill Amber G in N3 if there’s a risk that Amber G will us her power on him again? I don’t know if eavesdropper works once for one player or that it can be used multiple times. Or the fact Amber G is a trick from Greg itself…hmm…which was why right now, I’ll give Greg a bit of benefit of the doubt.

    My concern right now is the neighbor chat that Jeann has with Kerys that wasn’t crossed out. And with the thought that cult can turn everyone at night and we won’t even know who has been turned is scarier than mafia killing (I mean, if somebody is killed, you know their role and they are killed; but it’s even harder to find those who were disguised as ‘town’ when they are not town).

    I don’t think Kerys will guess that Jeann will die on N3 and the role will be revealed, but her word about cult chat:

    I can’t imagine the cult members being able to communicate with the cult leader either. I think that the mods just email a recruited player and let them know that they’ve lost their abilities. I don’t see why there would be direct communication between the cult leader and cultist.

    Seems like trying to cover up that the cult has a chat, when if we look at previous editions, there are definitely night chat for the cult.

    Also about Megan investigated and said that Kerys was a town was weird to me when Megan mentioned herself has mentioned she doesn’t think Kerys is suspicious. Megan said this herself:

    And neither Kerys or Jeann have particularly stood out to me as baddies so far.

    Then why would she investigate Kerys if Megan is not suspicious of Kerys? I’m confused.

    Also about the lie detect thing:

    Maybe she’d been turned before last night and didn’t want me to lie detect her or something if she outright said it.

    It is unlikely that the mods gave two same abilities in one game? There could also be that Kerys joined the night event and she got a lie detector ability 1x or something. But then again, we need to consider all options.

    I think for now, I’ll go with this rabbit hole. I’m not sure I can stay up again at night. I have to go to work tomorrow. So for now, here’s my vote.

    VOTE KERYS

  93. Hmm, crazy that both Maria and Kerrie had the same exact thought about Kerys and the “neighbor chat not being crossed out” within minutes of each other…

    Wow, almost too close to be coincidental…

    🤨

  94. Hi @Anne, I don’t find it’s crazy or too close to be coincidetal.

    I have already mentioned toDay on 4th February 6.41am about the Neighbour role, that it could be Jeann was recruited on N3 and then killed by the mafia at the same Night, but Harker replied the order could only be known after EOG. So I was thinking of other possibilities

    Plus, Meaghan on February 4th 4.41am mentioned about the possibility the Neighbour chat is the Cult chat 🤷 (I was rereading it this morning and thought of this, which was why I wrote it down toDay)

    And I also did say that I didn’t refresh so I didn’t know Kerrie has talked about the Neighbour before me.

    Didn’t mean to sound anything, but I want to say this before it goes anywhere like in BYOC2 for me that time (it was stressful, I woke up to many accusations 😂)

    Anyway, I wasn’t online much on the 6th cause I went out with my friend and wanted to spend time with her. I only mentioned that I was trying to register what Greg and Harker were talking about the names thing on the 6th. Probably should have just posted about the cult chat then so won’t be having this again. 😂

  95. I think just because Kerys shared a chat with Jeann does not necessarily mean that she is also a member of the cult. My thinking is that it is possible that they could be from two different towns and it could a neighbour chat instead of a mason chat to make anyone think twice about who they are talking.

    In the post, Jeann’s neighbour ability isn’t crossed out so she could have been turned into a cult member on any of the nights. The mods probably didn’t want me to get suspicious if she was still alive and could no longer talk to me.

    This sounds like a reasonable explanation to me of why the neighbour chat wasn’t lost when Jeann was recruited into the cult.

    I was a bit confused when she said she would’ve preferred Greg to be lynched when she did switch to Megan in the end. However she did break a tie which I think is a very good reason for the switch because then at least we gained some information which we wouldn’t have had if there had been a tie.

    So for now I don’t consider Kerys suspicious.

  96. @Greg you said “if by chance Kerys were Kane or Octavia, they would presumably be friendlies? I’d assume Kane is Ark and Octavia is 100. But again these are all assumptions. And if she was then co- opted by the Cult it wouldn’t matter her original affiliation as she’s be Cultist, obvs.”

    Others (I can’t remember who… maybe even you? I’m not sure and I don’t have the time to go back and look right now) have mentioned that they think the Cult can only turn Grounders. Why do you think an Ark or 100 character can be turned to Cult now when no one else has thought that?

  97. @Shannon:

    I also believe that we have a separate mafia and cult (not a Cultafia). If my theory fits, the Cult can only recruit Grounders which means that if they try to recruit someone else, then that person would die instead.

    Meeghan said this earlier toDay.

  98. I’ve wavered back and forth between whether I find Greg suspicious or not. I’m still more inclined to trust him at this point.

    I am fully convinced Greg is Mafia – probably the leader of Mt. Weather… This makes sense when you think of his voting irregularities/not wanting to tie himself to others by voting with other people.

    @Shannon has gone consistently after Greg but what stands out is that you think he is probably the leader of Mt. Weather. It just seems like a random leap to make. It’s possible I could be wrong about him and he could be mafia but I’m confused about what stands out to you that makes him seem like the leader of Mt. Weather.

  99. I think at the moment Kerrie is the most suspicious to me. Her reason for creating the tie just doesn’t make sense to me and seems like too big a risk if she were town. Also considering that I don’t currently find Kerys suspicious her attention on her stands out more to me.

    So for now I’m going to

    VOTE: KERRIE

  100. @Anna I’ve mentioned multiple times my reasoning for that. Greg’s constant minimizing of Mt. Weather, calling them ‘mountain men’ when he had called it Mt. Weather earlier in the day, not capitalizing their group name when every other group name was, and so on. Along with spending a lot of time pitting Grounders vs. The 100 and bringing up that he thought Grounders are bad. Seems insistent on getting attention away from Mt. Weather so that’s my suspicion.

  101. @Shannon:

    It does confirm my worry that Mt. Weather may turn Grounders into Reapers (per the show) which someone mentioned may be a Cult aspect (I forget who and can’t check now but it was in Day 1)

    Kerrie said on D1:

    Also, Shannon W pointed out that in the show Mt. Weather created reapers out of grounders, so I wonder too if there might be a some kind of cult-recruitment element?

    Is this what you were referring to? Megan Rose had also said this about it:

    Also what @Shannon W said about the Mountain Men and the Reapers was interesting. Assuming they’re in the game there’s a few ways how they could be used. The reapers could already be in play and be like the killers of the mafia (the mountain folk) and do their bidding. Or they could be recruited and ‘turned’ throughout the game similar to the cult function. And since she said they took the grounders and turned them, that lends me to believe they’d be allies of the town (which I’m assuming is the 100, or whatever else they’re called).

    @Shannon, I do have a question about your suspicion of Greg. I understand why you’re suspicious of him, having read your posts again, though I am curious why, if I’m reading this correctly, you leaned toward thinking he might be a character who is the leader of the Mafia/Mt. Weather rather than a regular citizen/goon/etc.

  102. @Harker et all I don’t know how else to explain it other than strong feelings based on everything he’s been saying and doing.

  103. Voting Update:
    Greg (3) — Shannon, Anne, Amber G.
    Shannon (1) — Greg
    Kerys (3) — Harker, Kerrie, Maria
    Kerrie (2) — Beth, Anna

    Not voting: Amber B., Meeghan, Kerys

    Haven’t met comment minimum: Amber G. (2), Amber B. (2)

    Just over 3.5 hours to go!

  104. Ok, so I went back and did MANY HOURS of note-taking, and analysis. I also can’t figure out the best way of representing my thoughts because it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to put it out chronologically; by player; putting all the quotes first and then my thoughts; or grouping it in themes, so it’s kind of a mish-mash.
    So, apologies in advance (for length and display). You may have to read it twice to see where all my red strings line up (I really am a much more visual person), and I will try and respond to any questions that arise before I go to bed. Which should have been like 3 hours ago, because this took SO LONG. (I am so going to regret this when I get up for work and have only had 5 hours sleep, because I’m sitting on an interview panel ALL DAY Monday.)
    Also, apologies for taking so long in writing this. My mum has called about 6 times because one of her friends needs tech support so it’s been an interesting night playing chinese whispers (which I believe is called telephone in the US??).
    Oh, and I’m dropping this in batches to try and help with readability and in case I break any coding to minimise the damage. The order is in the order we are listed on Day 1, just in case anyone wants to infer anything from that, which I believe is the order we signed up in.
    I’m also not doing block quotes because I don’t have time and I want to go to bed. ANNNND, I may have missed things towards the end of D3, and start of D4. It’s now super late here, and I am tired.

    Mods (Yes, you get one too…)
    At the game intro Inge says “I’m working with a co-host who loves The Hunger Games and The 100, so… consider this a kind of Quarter Quell”, so based on this, I now feel like we’ve entered the arena. There’s mafia, 3 towns confirmed, a cult, at least one third party, and more abilities/roles than you can poke a stick at. No wonder I’ve been so confused.
    Megan Rose also mentions on Day 1 “I feel like since it says in Inge’s our game masters little notes above, ‘achieving your goals’, that there’s gonna be a bit more to these games than just finding the bad guys.” so there will be additional chaos. Great. I talk about a thought on this in Kara’s section.

  105. Harker
    Day 1: Maria → cancel → Kerrie → Nicole
    As Harker hasn’t read books or seen the show, they have a lot of speculation about what the game mechanics could mean. When Kara says she thinks that Harker is aligned to the Grounders, they dispute Kara’s reasoning, which led me to believe that Harker is not a Grounder, otherwise, why not just ignore it.
    “Do you have thoughts regarding the Ark kids? (Is that what they’re called in-universe? Or is it The 100 that refers to the kids that are dropped from space?)”
    [To Kara] “Also, I’ve noticed one group you’ve consistently avoided up to this point is The 100. You’ve “assigned” people to Grounders, to solo, to maybe Mafia, but not mentioning the main characters of the series who would presumably be the Town (in any Bookish Games, not just this one).”
    “Regarding “The Ark Kids/The 100”, I haven’t seen the show yet or read beyond the first book years ago so at the time of writing, it slipped my mind the proper term to refer to that group.”
    “I didn’t know whether it was appropriate to refer to them as the Ark kids or the 100 in conversation. After the bulk of the conversation toDay though, they’re apparently the same thing so..? 😅”
    Harker also seems to use The 100/The Ark interchangeably, which they are challenged on by Kerrie.
    Harker then votes for Kerrie saying that her theories are confusing.
    At 13 minutes to go Harker then changes their vote to Nicole after quoting Kara’s self-preservation line and says it’s due to Nicole’s contradictory vote. Harker could absolutely have switched their vote to Kara which would have put Kara at 5 and left Nicole, Harker and Jenn at 3 apiece, although they did tie the vote at 4-4 which could have been to protect Nicole, but it was unlikely the voting would have stayed tied.
    I think it’s unlikely that Harker is Nicole’s team mate / mafia based on this action alone.
    Day 2: Dana
    Harker theorises Jenn’s death on N1:
    “Jenn’s elimination is both disconcerting and confusing. I haven’t yet had time to analyze her comments to see if there may have been a reason (confusing -assuming this was the Mafia Night Kill, what did they see about her that was a threat? Why go after someone that, at a cursory look, seemed to be on the middling to lower end of the scale of theorizing/what have you) and disconcerting (it seems like The Ark was a Town/Pro-Town group so that’s one less person that is there to go against anti-Town members).”
    Harker has also been stuck on a Cult since 24 Jan, 2:30am, but brings it up in a way that makes it seem like Megan Rose illuminated her with a comment mentioning ‘recruiting’ similar to a cult function. Clever to bring it up this way without screaming “there’s a cult – run for your lives” which may have made them more sus.
    Day 3: Jeann
    Harker brings up Cult again:
    “@Kerys: potentially? There has been speculation about a cult or cult-like function from various players. These are any mention of cult from the last couple of Days.” (this continues with quotes from others, including myself)
    Harker mentions suspicions of Greg, but also says he could have a neighbour/mason chat or third party:
    “What does that mean for his position then? Larger Town teams don’t generally know one another (kind of the point of the game), so he could be paired with someone within the Town (but why?). He/they could be a 3rd Party. The other person(s) he was talking to could he on another team altogether. 🤔”
    They also theorise who Greg could be chatting with: NOT Jeann / Kara / Shannon / Amber
    Harker then mentions they are sus of Jeann, and votes accordingly.
    After Kerys drops Jeann/Kerys chat bomb, Harker remains adamant that Jeann is sus, saying:
    “There are different kinds of alarming activity that can happen and honestly I was wondering if Jeann or one of the other quick voters was a cult member of some kind (whether that’s different from the Mafia I don’t know) due to what I’d seen in the different Days.”
    Harker points out to Shannon that they weren’t specifically defending Greg, just questioning everything.
    Day 4: Kerys
    Due to Cult confirmations, Harker speculates that Kerys would be a likely target for Cult, and votes for her.

    Thoughts: Given that we now know that Jeann was Cult, I’m super impressed that Harker picked it up so quickly, and given their adamant focus on voting out the Cult, my guess is that they aren’t Cult aligned. My guess for Harker is team 100, but possible team murphy with goal of kicking out the cult. (Don’t forget that Murphy was VERY anti-City of Light.) Of course, this only works if Team Murphy didn’t know who each other were OR Team Murphy is a Team.

  106. Jeann: Grounders/Cult, fruit vendor, neighbour, cultist
    Day 1: Jenn → cancel → Nicole
    Jeann backs Kara’s Grounders statement. At the time I had written Jeann on my Grounders list, with Kara, which we now know is true. Jeann also acknowledges that Kerrie, Greg and Megan Rose are unlikely to be grounders.
    Day 2: Amber B
    Jeann was pretty quiet today, but lays out a lot of suspicions about 13 hours to go. These are for Dana, Amber B, and Megan Rose.
    Day 3: Greg
    Jeann agrees that Greg is sus with Amber G’s chat reveal. Says the most likely night chat is a mafia chat.
    Jeann questions Harker’s belief of Greg’s statement that he is in a chat, and asks why Harker is voting for Jeann, and not Amber G or Shannon.
    Jeann says she is still sus of Amber B and Megan Rose, but more sus of Greg at this point in time. Jeann also asks Harker if they are in the chat with Greg (which honestly, I doubt anyone would admit to, but let’s try again).
    Jeann’s reasoning for voting for Greg is: not voting on D2, admitting that he discussed everyone in his chat.
    Jeann confirms this is because she and Kerys have a ‘Neighbour/mason’ chat chat of their own.
    Jeann announces further sus of Amber B because she’s backing Greg. Jeann states that she is not sus of Greg because he wasn’t around much on D2.
    Jeann says that she isn’t willing to share any further details on her neighbour/mason chat with us. Asks Greg what his additional information is.
    Jeann misquotes Harper as being the first to bring up a mason/neighbour chat (it was Anne, as below).
    After I question Jeann/Kerys about their decision to out their chat, Jeann says:
    “So call our move bold if you wish but even if one of us gets killed tonight, I’d say it was worth it.”
    @Kerys: Do you still believe this is true, given that Jeann has now been killed and Greg is still in play?
    JEANN IS KILLED NIGHT 3

  107. Beth
    Day 1: Amber G → cancel → Nicole → Dana → Nicole
    Not really relevant to my analysis, but Beth nailing it as always “There’s also (I think) the potential for independent anti-Town roles (like maybe Murphy…although the obvious choice for that role is Survivor, which isn’t necessarily anti-Town).”
    Beth also comments:
    “All this talk about Grounders becoming allies, but Ice Nation were consistently enemies of the Ark folks (and everyone else, seems like) so I wouldn’t rule them out as an anti-Town group.”
    “The Ark adults, The Ark kids” [as likely groups being played]
    “So I think collectively we’ve come up with a list of potential anti-Town factions:
    Mt Weather/Mountain Men
    Ice Nation
    City of Light/ALIE”
    “I feel like the chance that Kara is indeed Town (or Town-aligned) is too big to risk voting her out at this point.
    Likewise, I don’t think Greg is suspicious for his speculation. Anyone speculating on the name of the Town team(s) could be questioning it genuinely, *or* they could be intentionally pretending ignorance to gauge the reactions of others. This game is a mind game, after all.”
    Which has me leaning towards her being either a fellow Ark member or mafia.
    @Beth, you did a bunch of thinking about Murphy on D1, which (to me) looked like Murphy would be very anti-Jaha/City of Light although (according to the Wiki) Jaha went to Murphy for assistance. Do you think it’s reasonable to think that Murphy would have had some info on them/do you think it would be worth combing through Dana’s comments to see who she tried to target?
    At 10 mins to go Beth breaks the Nicole 4, Kara 4 tie by changing her vote from Dana to Nicole. This doesn’t seem mafia aligned, because I don’t think you’d risk voting out a team mate when you could have easily voted for Kara instead causing it to turn her way.
    Day 2: Dana
    Beth is the very first person to bring up a Mason/Neighbour chat on D2 (22 Jan, 3:42pm) with:
    [To Maria] “Do you mean that a role from team Ark and a role from team Grounders might be in communication, or do you mean that there might be a Mason situation (where they have a private group Chat of their own)?”
    She is also the first person to look at votes that were for people other than Kara or Nicole (23 Jan, 5:37pm).
    Beth extends grace to Megan being on The 100, questions Kerys and Anna, but ultimately votes Dana.
    Day 3: Greg
    Beth also *kind of* supports Greg:
    “I’m torn about Greg. I haven’t found his behavior suspicious, and while Amber G’s info was confirmed (thanks, Amber G!), he could be a Mason or a Neighbor (as Harker pointed out).
    Masons are Town, Neighbors can be mixed Town and Mafia. Having Masons can be a huge boon for Town because it’s 2 additional days (during the Night round) of people who know they’re all Town, sharing information and theories.”
    “I want to be clear that, if I vote for Greg, it has nothing to do with his not voting on D2 and not being active. I’m feeling the rebuke in the comments about “if you’re gonna be busy, why not get a Day Pass”, because I’m sensitive to the idea that I’ll never be “present enough” (a side effect of having a chronic illness). And I think it’s important to separate someone’s playing style (which you may disagree with) from their contributions. After all, Siran didn’t contribute much to the speculations, and didn’t vote two days running, and turned out to be Town.”
    Beth votes for Greg after his Traitor information is revealed, and says this info isn’t helpful.
    Beth asks if people are still sus of Amber B.
    Day 4: Kerrie
    Beth is sus of Kerrie, Greg and Amber B. Does not find Shannon sus. Kerys might be cult.

  108. Amber B (YA Indulgences/black icon)
    Day 1: Dana → cancel → Kara → Jenn
    Doesn’t say a whole lot on Day 1 that was really note worthy, except for this comment:
    “As far as Murphy goes, he seems to be Townie as far as everything I’ve seen from the show. Townie being a stand in for “good guy”. He does bounce around throughout the series but ultimately, there is nothing that has me to believe he’s anti-town at all. Jaha is up in the air, but I doubt he’d be in this game but I don’t know. Same goes for Alie, I’m not sure how much she would be in here. I think the Grounders could be anti-town given the season 1 finale.”
    Given that we have now seen how Jeann reacted when questioned about Cult, this pings as a red flag for me. Additional to my questions/comments to Beth above, is it possible that Amber is trying to allay suspicions of Murphy by saying they are ‘pro-town’?
    Amber votes for Kara because it’s better to know for sure that Grounders are pro-town. Amber then changes to vote for Jenn because Jenn is ‘under the radar’, which Harker then questions. However, at the time of casting THIS vote, Jenn had voted for Nicole for suspicious behaviour. (Team mates??)
    Amber then responds to Harker:
    “I took my vote off Kara because she would still be in the lead but Jenn’s non-activity and cat excuse felt really weird to me.” This comment is what put Amber on my sus list.
    Day 2: Dana
    Amber starts with backtracking suspicion on Kara, and then says she is sus, but also not sus, of those who voted for Kara with this comment later on D2:
    “I have still been behind in comments toDay but given D1, I’m semi suspect of the Kara voters but also kind of not given I’m not sure what my thoughts on her are. I feel like the statement of “Do not trust Non-Grounders” is extreme as there are multiple factions in the show that are displayed to be “good guys”.”
    Jeann calls Amber B out with the following question re voting for Jenn: “Could it be that it was a way to distance yourself from the leading votes to stay out of the spotlight?” Which… I don’t *really* feel that she answered.
    Amber G also latched onto my gleaning joke on D1:
    “My suspicions are very up in the air right now. I do think that Meeghan brought up an interesting correlation between Dana, Megan and Kara as using the word glean. This was something I had noticed before too and saw that it had been mentioned on D1.”
    If you’re cult (which is what I’m leaning towards Amber B being), then you would absolutely want to throw suspicion onto someone else who has joked about cult and code words.
    Amber B also mentions that she is sus of Siran for not voting.
    Day 3: Megan Rose
    Amber B also brings up a Mason option, and says that she is less sus of Greg on Day 3. And then later agrees that being unavailable on a day isn’t sus.
    Amber B then shoves Kerys and Jeann under the bus saying they are quick to cast suspicion on Greg, when their chat could be mafia instead of neighbour/mason as they are claiming.
    After Jeann questions Amber B for backing Greg, Amber B comments:
    “I just hate how people are using real life as a way to find out Mafia like are we going to question now if someone is REALLY sick? And feel free, last time we did this I was Townie, so.”
    Amber B later comes in, distancing herself from Greg and says:
    “I said I was giving Greg the benefit of the doubt because of the irl stuff, not that I didn’t think he couldn’t be Mafia. I am wondering how he knows there is a traitor because according to the roles, only the mafia would know that.”
    “I did jump to his defense quickly because I know how it feels when it seems you’re being targeted. And I know that makes me seem suspicious. As with previous games I am always the first to go overboard with defending my Townie roles and I’ve learned as I go. I was just giving the benefit of the doubt before.”
    “I honestly hate voting toDay but given Greg’s explanations, I am going to once again give the benefit of the doubt. So I’m going to vote for the next person on the board”
    Day 4:
    Amber says:
    “One thing, I never realized why people think/thought there was a cult or traitor involved.”
    WHAT??? Are we playing the same game???
    “@ Harker, Right, I realize there’d been talk, I just hadn’t thought of that possibility in general for the show, so I wasn’t sure how people were getting that idea from it. I was thinking about Alie and thinking of her as a sort of Thunderhead player so I wasn’t sure if we’d see the City of Light aspect at all. I’m guessing that’s what the cult is though.

    I hadn’t thought of any of the 100 as being a traitor but the thought of Murphy or Jasper being one is really interesting. I know it was mentioned previously about Lexa betraying Clarke thus being a traitor and I think she would be a serious choice for that role, assuming it exists.”

  109. Meeghan Yes… for transparency, I’m on here too.
    Day 1: Jeann → cancel → Kara
    “Firstly, why wouldn’t the Ark be town?? Unless those questioning it are the ones who aren’t sure if town is referred to as the Ark, or the 100, or Grounders? And if that’s the case, then should they not automatically make it to the top of the suspicions list?”
    [To Kara] “If Grounders are pro-town, does that mean you’re saying that Ark are anti-town?? Or that you didn’t know there was an Ark, and therefore you’re actually third party who is pro-town??”
    I guess I’m still looking into this as a thing…
    I’m also the first to mention that there are three pro-town teams:
    “I believe the following;
    • the 100 = town 1
• the ark = town 2
• grounders = third party that may be pro-town
    Then of course we would have the mafia team (whoever they may be – please be kind, reminder that I haven’t seen the show or read the book and you all have listed a LOT of possibilities)
    Plus, there could either be a mafia-aligned character, or some third party people are anti-town aligned.”
    Day 2: Dana
    Really I came in super late (13 hours to go) and then yell about being on Team Ark a lot. I totally admit that I probably didn’t take time to analyse and think my comments through properly before hitting send, but I also came in with 13 hours to go to try and read an entire Day’s worth of comments, analyse, respond to questions, vote, and go to sleep. Hence why I came in so early toDay. My suspicions at end of D2:
    “At this point in time, I am LEAST suspicious of:
Greg, Anne, Jeann, Beth, Harker and Kara
    I have no feelings about:
Amber B, Siran, Anna, Kerrie and Kerys
    I have some suspicions of:
Megan, Amber G, Maria, Dana and Shannon”
    “**Note: I may have mixed up the Ambers in my above comment. I’m very tired, and to be fair, I think I’ve mixed them up in my notes as well. Will fix over the Night.”
    FYI – I totally mixed up the Ambers.
    I also start my Cult theories, and vote for Dana.
    Day 3: Megan Rose
    “Somewhat surprised by all the Greg votes so early. I know mafia chat is a highly likely scenario, but I honestly had Greg in my pro-town list, so he’s either fooled me or he does have a reasonable explanation.”
    Yes, I go in to bat for Greg at this point. I also point out that I’ve been talking about Cult loudly. The I throw Greg under the bus as the possible Traitor.
    I question Greg re his chat, Jeann/Kerys re their decision to announce their chat, Megan Rose re her information that Kerys is “town”.
    Hinky list for D3: Kerys, Megan Rose, Shannon”
    Day 4:
    I have Cult theories, and ask about Jeann keeping her neighbour role on 4 Feb, 4:41am, or possibly gaining it because it IS the Cult chat, and on 4 Feb at 6:50am (I promise this is relevant later), I say:
    “Or did the mods just not take it away because then Kerys would be sus of Jeann as she was still playing and taking away their chat would raise more questions when Jeann wasn’t allowed to say she had joined the cult?”
    Kerys repeats this on 4 Feb at 8:01 am (literally the next comment)
    Kerrie AND Maria then ask if the neighbour chat is something that Jeann GAINED when she joined Cult on 7 Feb at 3:16 and 3:32 am respectively.
    Am I yelling into the void???
    I’d also like to say that I discount it almost immediately because it is unlikely it would be called a ‘neighbour’ chat if it is a cult chat.

  110. Siran: The 100, Lie Detector
    Day 1: Meeghan → cancel/not voting
    Siran mentions that she thinks there could be mafia in the 100, but when questioned she says she was thinking of Murphy.
    Day 2: Meeghan → cancel/not voting
    Later in D2 Siran repeats her theory:
    “Unfortunately, I believe that there could be mafia and town mixed on the 100, the Ark and Grounders.”
    I feel like she’s trying to tell us something, and we’re just not listening. But then she kind of recants her statement by tying it to characters in the show and speculation. Given we voted her out on D1 of Scythe (?) because she hints very heavily at her role and we got paranoid, I can understand her wanting to back off from her statement. But maybe she did know something??
    Look, Siran doesn’t really say much at all, but her choice to “NOT VOTE” is actually consistent with other games I had played with her. I think I mentioned it on D1, but we have previously gone at each other when we were both town due to a difference in play style. I kind of feel that’s what’s happening with Greg at the moment. Mafia didn’t even need to get involved because we were taking up so much of the Day time chats that it was hard to get other options on the board. It’s a great distraction for mafia though.
    I also can’t fault Siran for voting for me twice. D1 was random, and D2 was because I had been inactive. These are valid decisions (and you should never apologise for these Siran!!).
    SIRAN IS KILLED NIGHT 2

  111. Greg: Informed??
    Day 1: Kara → cancel → Kara
    Greg’s comments of Day 1 included:
    “are we on the ground, and who will the baddies be? Grounders, Reapers, Mt Weather”
    “the 100 kids and the Ark people are the “good” guys, although judging from the show not everyone on the Ark is a good guy!”
    “I’m just assuming the 100 /Ark kids are Town.”
    “I mean, my default assumption coming in is that members of the 100/ the Ark would be Town, but of course that might not be the case.”
    “the 100 kids/ Ark people would be Town”
    “Does anyone think the 100/Ark are NOT Town? Maybe I’m too wedded to that assumption- I guess the Game could have been set up where the Grounders are Town and the evil 100 kids are invaders and Mafia.”
    “I’ll say that the 100 in some form are Town seems pretty logical to me. Sure, the mods could have thrown a wrench in the works and made them anti- Town, but it seems unlikely to me.”
    “maybe it doesn’t matter if we keep going around and around about whether the 100 or Grounders (or others) are Town or not. Although it’s natural to speculate I suppose. There are 19 players, and as several people have pointed out there are all manner of possible factions from the show. The 100, the Ark (if they’re separate), the Grounders, mountain men, City of Light?”
    Based on this, I would say that Greg is definitely not a Grounder, and I had him pegged for 100 because he asked if we were on the ark or on the ground (The 100 wiki: The Ark served as a primary location during the events of first season of the show). However, given that he seems to use 100/Ark interchangeably on D1, maybe he’s also guessing which is town. Add that to the part where he questions if The 100 are possible mafia has me questioning him further.
    Additional to all of this, Greg later tells us he has the Informed role and knows there is a Traitor. On D1 he could have been hinting at this with: “I can totally see some Grounders being Town though, and some not, rather than just one Grounders “group” or allegiance.”
    Day 2:
    On D2 after Shannon comes at Greg he says:
    “I had actually forgotten the Mt. Weather faction was called that by the Grounders in the show until I saw someone else (I think?) mention mountain men- I should go back and look but I’m too lazy- but that’s all that was. I didn’t capitalize them because “mountain men” doesn’t really seem like an official faction name to me, like Mt. Weather does or the Ark, say.”
    Greg chooses not to vote on D2. IF he is mafia, he wouldn’t think that Dana is a team mate, so why not vote for her as she has the most votes. He would also know that Siran is not a team mate so could have thrown his vote in that pile too.
    I’m inclined to give Greg the benefit of the doubt because some of the ‘evidence’ coming at him is somewhat on the lower end of the scale for me. Capitalisation, not knowing what to refer to mafia as (on D1 no less), using block quotes vs speech marks, and not being around on D2 after he literally said he wouldn’t be around on D2 are all very circumstantial at best. I know what it’s like switching between PC and phone to write things, and I’m sure if I went back through EVERY PERSON’S comments (again) there would be inconsistencies.** I feel like a lot of this is grasping at straws and trying to make things stick.
    ** On D3, Amber G says “Sorry that was @Greg. I keep forgetting blockquotes aren’t made to include people’s names *facepalm*” INCONSISTENCIES???? (See how ridiculous this train of thought is??)
    Day 3: Harker *stolen vote??*
    On D3, Amber G reveals her info that Greg is in a chat, and Get does a big uphill battle. He does say this though, which will become relevant later:
    “All I can say is, it is NOT mafia. Just my word, of course, but I’m mulling whether to say more because I do have a certain piece of information- just not sure when/ if I should share it at this point. I may have to to clear myself since I will naturally be under suspicion… just wanted to throw that out there.”
    I also feel like this kind of got lost in all the back and forth about Greg:
    “Just an observation too that an Eavesdropper is not necessarily Town. They can be any alignment. So just because Amber G eavesdropped on my chat doesn’t mean she’s Town and I’m mafia.”
    Greg questions Shannon’s defence of Lexa, defends his stance to not vote for Dana (didn’t want to band-wagon and wasn’t totally sus of her), and questions the use of “very active” in Jeann’s comments re Greg’s chat (which, valid – Amber reported 2 comments, they might have been the only 2 or they might have been 2 of 1000; there’s not way to validate this).
    Greg brings up that his chat may not be “night chat only”:
“Also- I’d like to point out that Neighbors and Masons can chat Day or Night. So I’m not sure why certain people keep calling it a Night chat. Unless you know for sure I’m mafia (which you don’t) it’s not a Night chat, it’s an anytime chat.”
    Greg accuses either Jeann or Kerys of not being town-aligned if they are in a neighbour chat, as it can be any alignment.
    Greg brings up my Grounders/Reapers Cult hypothesis.
    30 Jan, 11:15am Greg states that he is informed, and there is a traitor.
    After some more defense and speculation, Megan Rose and I question Greg about his chat. His response:
    “It’s a Neighbors chat with one other person. We have discussed affiliations, with the caveat that we could be lying to each other! 🙂 And no I don’t trust anyone completely lol so no I can’t say for sure, although obviously we have shared thoughts and suspicions.”
    “They are still alive.”
    Greg then alludes to the part that his vote has been stolen on D3 and votes Harker.
    “It also prevents me from voting Megan and thus bringing it closer to a tie, which mitigates against me “making this up”. I mean me voting for someone with no votes on the board serves me nothing. Bad coincidence for me, I guess. 😦”
    Possible this could be going for the sympathy vote… but unlikely.
    Day 4: Shannon
    Greg votes for Shannon, which I’m sure is a complete shock to everyone. 🙄

  112. Jenn: The Ark, Cop
    Day 1: Anne → cancel → Nicole
    Jenn doesn’t say a huge deal during Day 1 as she was out with a migraine, but she does vote for Nicole, with the following statement:
    “Greg is honestly not standing out to me as sus right now. From his comments, I’m assuming he is not a Grounder, but I do believe he may ne 100/Ark
    Meeghan I believe to be a possible Ark member, since she was one of the first to use it as a “sure thing”. I could be wrong, but I think maybe the Ark are good guys. Based of my limited information.”
    JENN IS KILLED NIGHT 1

  113. Shannon W
    Day 1: Dana
    Comments on Day 1 “I think the Mount Weather group would definitely be bad guys, and I’m very worried if Acid Fog will come into play! I sure hope not, because it killed a few people in the show before the 100 figured out how to avoid it. Mount Weather also made The Reapers by capturing Grounders and getting them addicted to drugs and conditioning them to be controlled by the sound/light fixture. Then they’d let the Reapers loose to go kill people.”
    Well… that’s terrifying. But, it does question about whether the Cultists can kill or only turn.
    “I think some of the comments made by Kara and others are worth re-reading and thinking further on….”
    I don’t know that this line says anything in particular, but since it’s said after Kara said she thought Shannon was a Grounder, it could either be Shannon’s way of agreeing that yes she is a Grounder, or it could be Shannon hiding as either mafia or third party.
    After being questioned on not changing her vote, Shannon says:
    “I am not suspicious of Dana at all, it was my initial vote solely because she had voted for me. She has since canceled it but I haven’t, mainly because in the first two games I played I left Day 1 vote as random. Granted there is a LOT more discussion and analysis in this game’s Day 1 than those two games but… I’m still on the fence on who to vote for based on it. I’ll likely read through everything one more time before the Day ends and may change my vote, but I’m not sure”
    Maybe this is how Shannon plays, but I find it really odd.
    Day 2: Greg
    Shannon then comes after Greg HARD on D2. Pitting grounds vs 100. Not calling mafia ‘Mt Weather’. Not capitalising ‘mountain men’. Minimising Mt Weather in conversation. Are Grounders pro- or anti-Town. Shannon also seems super protective / supportive of the character ‘Lexa’ in a later comment. This only struck me as odd as it seems defensive. Is it possible that Shannon is Lexa??
    Day 3: Greg
    Shannon mentions that she is sus of Greg and Amber G (but I think she means Amber B given the context) for voting for Kara and now Kara is dead. But then in the next comment votes for Greg. She brings up her previous concerns re Pitting grounds vs 100. Not calling mafia ‘Mt Weather’. Not capitalising ‘mountain men’. Minimising Mt Weather in conversation.
    @Shannon, same question for you: Why are you sus of Amber B and Greg, but not me?
    Shannon then continues to nitpick Greg: Nothing personal; why didn’t Greg say he had mason/neighbour chat until Harker brought it up; personality vs temperament sarcastic; not defending himself. THIS is the point where I crazy link back to Greg earlier saying “All I can say is, it is NOT mafia. Just my word, of course”.
    @Shannon, you’re attacking him for saying he’s not defending himself, when he’s already said that he’s not mafia. Sure, we can all say that, but what else do you expect him to say???
    Shannon then raises suspicions of Amber B and Harker for defending Greg.
    Shannon then mentions that Greg is now sus for the following reasons: didn’t say earlier it was a neighbour chat; didn’t mention had na informed role until asked; didn’t blockquote correctly.
    Shannon then says:
    “The votes for Megan make no sense to me. Voting someone for issues with End of Day 1 weirdness when nothing was known that Day? The people giving real reasons and suspicions against weird behavior and explanations are all pointing to Greg.
    I am interested in hearing @Anne @Maria @Anna @Meeghan @Amber B’s firm reasoning for suspecting Megan?!
    The point of votes are to gain info and to vote out Mafia. Voting for Greg will certainly give us a lot of information about what happened in Night 1 and 2…. As well give us information on the voting decisions being made, and detemining teammates based on things being said to defend certain people.”
    My response to this is we literally voted out Dana on D2 for the exact same reason, and she was anti-town. Why wouldn’t this be a good enough reason again? How would voting for Megan not also give us information when she had hinted at having a somewhat informed role?
    Shannon also says
    “Forcing a tie gives us nothing! And we lose someone tonight anyways!”
    This isn’t true at all. I have 100% played games where no one is killed overNight.
    @Shannon, what makes you so certain that someone will die??
    Day 4: Greg
    Shannon says at D4:
    “It does confirm my worry that Mt. Weather may turn Grounders into Reapers (per the show) which someone mentioned may be a Cult aspect (I forget who and can’t check now but it was in Day 1)… Since she was a neighbor the people in the chat could be any alliance but I wonder if that means Kerys may also be a Cult member?!
    There is so much I am suspicious of! As I stated for the last two Days, I am fully convinced Greg is Mafia – probably the leader of Mt. Weather… This makes sense when you think of his voting irregularities/not wanting to tie himself to others by voting with other people.
    Based on yesterday’s constant defense of Greg, I believe Amber B and Harker are likely Greg’s Mafia teammates.
    Based on Kerrie switching her vote from Greg to Megan with four minutes left and creating a tie between them, I am suspicious of her.
    Lastly, based on Kerys switching her vote from Greg to Megan with one minute remaining and no explanation given, I am highly suspicious of her! There are two things I am worried about –
    1. Looking back on the comments from earlier in the Day and seeing that Megan stated Kerys is definitely Town, I am led to think Kerys is possibly the traitor based on the vote switching with one minute remaining and no reasoning given.
    OR
    2. Given that Kerys was in a chat with Jeann and Jeann was a Cult member ,Kerys may ALSO be a cult member… Her vote switching in the last minute with no explanation also makes me think this based on her trying to save Greg if Greg is the leader of Mt. Weather or the Cult leader…
    I think it’s very important for us Townies to vote together as we have now seen twice it is very easy for Mafia to come in and snipe one of us with last-second vote switches at the end of Days. Due to these suspicions listed above, I am going to continue my trend of the last two Days and
    VOTE GREG“
    @Shannon, so you’re happy to run with my theories and you don’t call me out for defending Greg, but you do the others? I’m seeing some inconsistencies here.
    Anne questions Shannon:
    “Shannon what do you mean by this:
    “I think it’s very important for us Townies to vote together as we have now seen twice it is very easy for Mafia to come in and snipe one of us with last-second vote switches at the end of Days.”
    Who was the other “one of us?”
    Nicole was Mt Weather
Dana was a survivor, which is not pro-town
Megan is the only one of the town eliminated so far by end of day votes?”
    @Shannon: did you ever respond to this question??

  114. Kara: Grounders, Bodyguard
    Day 1: Amber B → Greg → Nicole
    Kara votes for Greg pretty early on but says “for now, though one more player has caught my attention and my vote might change. Will go into my reasoning after work.” Presumably this is because Greg had highlighted that Grounders could be bad. However, there were others who agreed with him, such as Harker (from the Wiki quote), Anna and Amber G. Kara then confirms this by listing Greg, Anna, Amber G, Beth as suspect due to speculation on who the mafia is, and Harker and Shannon as Grounders. Kara’s whole suspicion of greg is based on “This leads me to believe that Greg, at the very least, is not a Grounder.” Knowing what we know now (that there are multiple town teams and this caused a lot of confusion), I don’t know that I find speculation that early on as suspicious. No one was disputing that Mt Weather was bad, just that we didn’t know the alignment of Grounders.
    When questioned about her ‘hint’ she will give at the start of D2, Kara says “I believe in transparency. The comment regarding the start of Day 2 had to do with the “death” of whatever potential players during the night and the announcement of their role and affiliation at the start of Day 2.” I assume this is in reference to town needing Grounders to win, which she ends up giving away at the end of D1. I would also assume that this is in reference to her role email which, if similar to mine, would say “You win when all the threats to The Grounders are eliminated and at least one member of The Grounders is still alive”.
    My second assumption is based by Kara’s statement “Is it last team standing or is one team’s purpose to protect the other? So many possibilities!” If we DO need one of every faction of Town to win, then we should probably work out some way of protecting team mates. Although this is going to be very difficult as we can’t interact with each other without the mafia seeing everything we say. It also gives more credence to having multiple town neighbour chats, which we may have severely screwed up.
    Kara changes her vote to Nicole because it was a weird vote, and says Meeghan (me) is sus. At 1 minutes to go, Kara announces that town “need Grounders to win”.
    Day 2: Siran
    Kara questions A LOT of people on D2: Dana, Anna, Anne, Maria, Siran, Shannon, Meeghan (me). But then says that she is now less sus of Greg:
    “I already clarified during the end of D1 that I started finding Greg less suspicious than other players at the time”
    Kara also mentions that she finds Siran sus for not voting.
    KARA IS KILLED NIGHT 2

  115. Dana: TEAM Murphy, Survivor, Framer, Scavenger
    Day 1: Shannon → cancel → Kara → Nicole
    Dana votes for Kara with 7 minutes to go, creating a new tie between Nicole 5, and Kara 5.
    Dane then switches her vote to Nicole at 7:00, eliminating Nicole (Nicole 8, Kara 5 – although after Megan cancels her vote right after this it ended being Nicole 7, Kara 5).
    Day 2: Megan Rose → Siran
    On D2 Dana says:
    “-Of the people who voted for Nicole (assuming there’s a teammate on her vote since we know mafia members will throw a vote to a teammate in past games) I’m most sus of Kerys and Megan Rose.”
    Given how close the votes were and that the tie was only broken in the minute before the end of D1, I don’t know how accurate this really is. To lose a mafia team mate on D1 by such a small margin, I don’t know that mafia would be willing to risk that? Maybe that’s just me, but I don’t think I’d like to leave a vote for a teammate so close so early on. Sure, Kerys’ vote for Nicole to tie the game could mean she’s a team mate, but NOT voting for Nicole and leaving her with less votes seems more reasonable as a team mate option.
    “-Megan Rose’s last minute vote for Nicole and then cancellation which would have left it tied leaves me suspicious of her. She has also continuously brought up gleaning and reapers. It has left me wondering if there really is something to it and she knows. She has stated that the 100 and Grounders are good and Mntn Men and Reapers are bad. No mention of The Ark so she likely isn’t a part of it.”
    Ahhhh Dana, what a good Murphy you were. Dana manages to throw both Megan and myself under the bus for this. Megan is now a confirmed 100, so yes, she wasn’t Ark (only confirmed Town at this point), but also manages to throw me under the bus after my joking comment about using ‘gleaning’ as a code for Reapers. But then follows this up with:
    “*Meeghan is town. She straight up said “Why wouldn’t The Ark be town?” So I’m leaning toward that.”
    Dana ends the Day with casting a vote for Siran as Siran had the second highest number of votes, but to no avail.
    DANA IS VOTED OUT DAY 2

    Side note: I haven’t mentioned this anywhere else yet, but I’m mildly surprised that Dana was listed as “TEAM Murphy”. I can’t tell if Murphy has any links to being on a team, as opposed to a third party individual, and I can’t see him being involved in Cult (who is the other green colour), unless someone can enlighten me otherwise.

  116. Megan Rose: The 100, Jack of all trades
    Day 1: Meeghan → cancel → Nicole → cancel
    Comments on Day 1 included:
    “The reapers could already be in play and be like the killers of the mafia (the mountain folk) and do their bidding. Or they could be recruited and ‘turned’ throughout the game similar to the cult function. And since she said they took the grounders and turned them, that lends me to believe they’d be allies of the town (which I’m assuming is the 100, or whatever else they’re called).”
    “the 100 & grounders = good, and mountain men & reapers = bad”
    “And it seems the Grounders are made up of clans one of them being the Ice Nation who casue trouble. There’s on again off again alliances with the Grounders as a whole but the ice nation separate and cause havoc.”
    “and Jaha stays to jettison them off (tho lives in a way and goes on a pilgrimage and becomes and prophet for the AI basically building a cult for this ideal but virtual world). They are the Ark people and there’s different groups of them doing naughty things too.”
    “So I would have to say surely only the 100 are town (with other groups as possible alliances).”
    “But in sort of response to the question on everyone’s minds about who is Town, I’m saying it’s The 100.”
    Looking at this in retrospect, yes I can now see that Megan is one of the first to call (a) town The 100, however it was the “I’m assuming” which threw me at the time. And based on what we can see from the gems stone colours, it would appear that the lead Reaper/Cult Leader is likely third party and not mafia, but maybe also Ark related??
    Megan speculates that Jaha is the Cult Leader and Murphy would be a Survivor. Could the Traitor be a Grounder who is actually Ice Nation?
    Megan also speculates that Kara is suspicious, and that Beth could be mafia for trying to distract from Mount Weather by bringing up Ice Nation. This doesn’t seem to be brought up again.
    Megan’s vote changes at the end of Day 1 are odd. She votes Nicole at 1 min to go, which would have voted Nicole off, but then cancels the vote at 7:00 out of confusion for the tie. This is what ultimately led to her demise for me.
    Day 2: Dana
    Megan repeats a lot of answers about her voting pattern on D1 over the course of D2. She mentions at the end of Day that she is most sus of Amber B and Dana, and then votes Dana.
    I do feel like I just totally missed this whole comment, which I am sorry for:
    “@Meeghan Also I thought I made it clear with my comments yesterday and today, but perhaps I didn’t. I’m calling there being a faction of the 100 and it being Town, because I have info that says so. I am a member. So anyone today saying only the Ark is a group, seems sus to me as well. Not saying you are though. But in terms of suspicion, I understand why people are sus of me from my EOD actions, but this line of reasoning doesn’t really make sense. I feel like I was the first to say I think Town is the 100. Which is kind of what Kara did for the Grounders and that also seems to be kind of forgotten.”
    Day 3: Greg
    Megan Rose comes in late to say that she is sus of Greg because of the chats, and follows up with:
    “I have information that tells me Kerys is Town. I don’t know what group, but she’s Town. And Jeanns actions supporting Kara from the beginning and being the first person to really notice Nicole’s actions and get her voted off, I’m inclined to believe she is Town as well.”
    “Although if Greg is telling the truth and there is a traitor, my info could be wrong.”
    Megan Rose says that she is still sus of Amber B, but ultimately votes Greg. She also mentions suspicion of Meeghan (me). Megan Rose then questions Maria as Maria said that she’s sus of Greg, but is still voting for Megan Rose.
    Megan Rose said that she found out on Night 1 that Kerys was “town”, and then clarifies:
“I didn’t say I have an investigative role. I don’t have one. I’m on Team 100 and was allowed some information Night 1.”
    MEGAN ROSE IS VOTED OUT DAY 3

    Thoughts: There has been speculation today re Megan’s comments that “Kerys is town” and “what does Jack of All Trades mean?” In ADSOM, I was Calla, and an ‘inventor’. I had the option to send out various pieces each Night to different people, such as ‘vests’, ‘masks’, etc. I had no idea what each of the items did. I speculated that I was sending a “gas mask” since there seemed to be poison, but I could have been sending a Carnaval mask to disguise someone, or a ski mask to help with the cold. Sometimes you just don’t know what your role does and you just have to roll with it.

  117. Maria
    Day 1: Harker → cancel → Jenn
    Maria is fairly quiet on Day 1, but comments to Megan:
    “I kinda lean towards that The 100 is the town (I mean the title? 🙈) and some others are possible alliances).”
    Which puts her out of The Grounders and Ark for me, but could still be 100 / mafia / third party.
    “Could it be that Kara’s voting for Greg was a 3rd party’s move? That she has to vote for Greg because she was ‘ordered’ too? Though I’m not sure if anyone can use their ability right away at the first day.”
    I can’t tell if Maria is trying to allay suspicion of Greg by trying to suggest that Kara HAD to vote for him, and that she’s really not that suspicious? There was nothing in Kara’s statement to this point that suggested this to me.
    Maria also votes for Jenn because Jenn said she wanted to look into people who were voting for Kara (which I don’t find sus). At the point that Maria votes, Jenn had already come back with that analysis and said she thought that Nicole was suspicious and Greg and I weren’t. Was Maria voting for Jenn because Jenn voted Nicole, and Maria and Nicole are team mates?
    Maria also says that she wants to vote for Kara but doesn’t in case she has a vengeful power, which seems like a long bow to draw. Possible that she doesn’t want to be seen as band-wagoning if Kara is voted off and we look for mafia among the voters?
    Day 2: Megan Rose
    Maria’s comments on D2 included:
    “My random thought would be if Jenn’s The Arc and Kara mentions as ‘Grounders as town’ and the fact that Jenn didn’t vote her, could imply that Grounders and The Arc are indeed ‘town’? Or that her role is to protect the grounders?
It’s also weird to me that those who vote for Kara is non-grounders, she herself is non-grounders and vote for nicole? Although it’s for a good thing that she voted Nicole so we got off the mafia and determined Mount Weather is mafia!”
    “My first thought when I wrote that comment was on the assumption that you (Kara) is a ‘Grounders’ and with Jenn is ‘The Ark’ why won’t she vote for you, who’s exactly in a different team? (Unless both you and Jenn are actually the same team…?) Especially when you said about not to trust ‘non-grounders’;
    Given now that Jenn was revealed as The Ark, and not to trust non-grounders, but at the same time the mods kinda imply that the town lost a cop, so The Ark could be either pro-town or town itself?”
    On D1 I said it was unlikely that Maria was Grounders or Ark based on her wording.
    I now don’t think she is 100 either, which really just leave Mafia or Third Party. Therefore, Maria sus
    Beth questioned Maria on her vote for Jenn on D2 asking “That’s a reason to *not* vote Kara (because she might be Vengeful), but why did you specifically choose to vote for Jenn? And why did you keep your vote for Jenn even after it was clear that Kara was in the vote lead?”
    Maria then goes on to question if Jenn was actually a Cop?
    “Cause like Jenn is cop apparently and she’s The Ark. If we can’t trust non-grounders then, could it be that the cop role from Jenn is a disguise? That she’s (Jenn) actually something else??? Maybe??”
    As someone who gets deep into conspiracy theories in this game, I’m almost applauding this, but also, I just don’t get where this is coming from at all, and only adds to my suspicion of her.
    Maria also backs Dana (we know is third party) and Greg for their votes on D1. Is this trying to meld in with suspected Townies??
    Later on D2 (after Kara and I question each other), I mention that Kara hadn’t voted yet. Maria took this and ran with it, redirecting Kara’s focus back to Greg and mentioning Anna too.
    “Why tho? You’re so into that not to trust non grounders that you voted for Greg right away and then to Anna due to your suspicious. Just want to know the sudden change”
    Maria then votes for Megan Rose after speculating that I ‘conveniently’ tagged onto Jenn’s Ark team.
    Day 3: Megan Rose
    Maria is the first person to ask who Kara was protecting in her bodyguard role:
    “Kara is a bodyguard, so whom is she protecting? That being said with how she said the Grounders are required for town to win, perhaps that all grounders are bodyguard to protect the town?”
    “How did the mafia know that Kara is a bodyguard? Why did you say so? Is there additional role that can let the mafia knows the role of other players other than cop?
    @Harker: That could be possible I guess for Kara to know who Octavia person, given her role.”
    @Maria: Why is it important to you that you know who Kara was protecting??
    Also, these comments re Greg strike me as a bit odd:
    “My head dizzy reading all the comments from Greg so I’ll respond a bit later.”
    “Just find that Megan was quite active before to talk about her vote switching and now she was no where?
    About Greg and his chat, there’s still possibility of neighbour or Mason; think the one like Anna and Beth previously. As this situation is more like he said she said in a way. I’ll leave this for now, might get to that again later.”
    “Now everyone came out saying they have night chat; maybe we even have more than what was said 😂”
    Is this Maria confirming that neither of the chats are mafia chat, which she might know as she’s IN the mafia chat??
    Day 4: Kerys
    Kerrie comments on D4 which is interesting to me, in particular with this pick up (which I’m going to paraphrase as it goes back and forth a bit:
    Amber G eavesdropped on Kerrie on N1, and the result came back “no result”. According to the role, this means that Kerrie was “blocked”. She then goes on to say:
    “If that’s the case then someone blocks Amber G and it could be either the mafia or the cult leader. Don’t think the town would block her 😂”
    However, I think we’re all forgetting that we had a bodyguard on Night 1 still, so could this have been Kara doing her job??

  118. Anna
    Day 1: Greg → cancel → Jenn
    On day 1, Anna said
    “I think the grounders and members of Mt. Weather could both work as mafia for enemies of the 100 and the people from the Arc that is.”
    “The more I think about it the more I realise how much potential there is for more than one anti-town team.”
    Based on this, I don’t think Anna is Grounders, 100 OR Ark because we hadn’t as yet confirmed who town was and she’s a bit ambivalent as to commit to who is what, but is also happy to throw Grounders in as an anti-town. She then furthers this point later saying:
    [Harker:] Anna, do you consider the Grounders to be a singular unit or made up of parts?
    I think probably made out of parts more than a singular unit. My earlier comment was me thinking based mostly of what I remembered of the first season and I forgot a lot about the grounders. But from what others have been saying I think it best not to assume that.
    From what Kara is saying it is possible that we have at least some grounders that form a 2nd town. I think I’m inclined to believe her at this point.”
    Anna then votes for Jenn as Jenn hasn’t met comment minimum when she goes to bed (fellow Aussie), which means the votes are REALLY spread at this point: Kara 2, Dana 1, Nicole 1, Harker 1, Greg 1 and then Jenn 1.
    Anna flies under the radar a lot, so I like to keep an eye on her, although she commented far more than I was expecting on Day1.
    Day 2: Siran
    Anna starts D2 with an odd choice of phrase:
    “I’m glad we got a mafia member out with Nicole. It was a surprising outcome because when I had signed out for the night I’m pretty sure there was only 1 vote on her at the time.” Which I guess MAY have been odd to Anna based on the above vote tally when she does place her vote. But… does she mean that it was ‘surprising’ because she hadn’t expected her team mate to be voted out?? This is then followed up with:
    “I also had a thought considering that is it possible that there is town members with the ability to kill. While Mount Weather seems to be the mafia is it possible that someone on one of the possible town teams have a kill ability and accidentally killed Jenn not realising she was a town member.”
    Is this… a confession??? I’m just really confused by Anna at this stage. Anne then follows this with:
    “Also with Jenn’s death, my thinking that it confirms the existence of a few town groups. LIkely the Ark, the 100 and the grounders.” which has me leaning towards her being more 100 aligned (as they weren’t confirmed at this stage.
    With the end of D2, Anna has voted for Jenn on D1, and Siran on D2. Anna mentions that she would rather vote because previously when she has played as mafia (Nevernight game from memory), she was caught out by not voting. I feel like these are ‘throwaway’ votes. Both Days Anna has voted for someone NOT on the board yet, and her reasoning is circumstantial at best (Jenn for being low on the radar and Siran for not voting).
    Day 3: Megan Rose
    In Anna’s first comment of D3 she is sorry she was sus of Siran, and sorry that we lost Kara.
    She later says that she’s not sus of anyone.
    Then says she is maybe sus of Greg and Megan Rose, and votes out Megan Rose.

    Crazy thought: Anna’s vote is causing some of the night kills.
    D2 Anna says: I also had a thought considering that is it possible that there is town members with the ability to kill.
    N1: Jenn is killed. Anna was the only person voting for Jenn. Jenn died. We had a bodyguard, and we presumably have a doctor, so 2 possible saves.
    N2: Siran is killed, and Kara is killed. Anna was voting for Siran. We can reasonably say that Kara likely wasn’t protecting Siran because Kara was SUS of Siran for choosing not to vote.
    N3: Anna was voting for Megan Rose who was voted out during the day. Jeann was killed.

    Day 4: Kerrie
    Anna apologises for the Megan Rose vote. Then says:
    “I hadn’t put much thought into the possibility of being a cult before it was revealed. I think it’s more likely to be a cult rather than a cultafia. But that also leads to the question of what or who caused the 2nd kill on N2.”
    Is this Anna trying to distance herself from the Night kills?? At this point in time, Kerrie has 2 votes: Beth and Anna.

  119. Amber G (Books of Amber/blue icon)
    Day 1: Kara → cancel → Kara
    Amber’s Day 1 comments included:
    “Grounders would be bad to start but then become allies. Mt Weather was pretty bad all along, and the [Reapers] are obvs dangerous all the time. Maybe there’s a combination of the three?”
    “I’m going to make a list of potential characters and alliances if toDay stays uneventful.”
    “I feel like given Kara’s comments about Grounders being pro-Town we may have sussed at least one of the groups… unless she’s having us on which is entirely possible, especially considering she’s a veteran player.”
    “In terms of Mafia (whichever group they are), how are we feeling about them? Do we think they’re laying low, getting involved, or double bluffing? There’s normally a combination of the three going on, especially in the early Days when there’s not much to go off.”
    I feel like Amber G is not Grounders.
    @Amber G: did you ever make that list? And would you be willing to share it?
    Day 2: Dana
    Day 2 comments include:
    “The mods could be trying to confuse us but to me this sounds like Team Ark is Town. It also seems to suggest we ALL lost a Cop so it was a hit on the Town group as a whole. However, we know how sneaky the mods are so this is just taking it at face value, which is perhaps not the best idea in this game.”
    @Amber G: are you hinting that you think there could be a second Cop?
    “Not necessarily, it seems as though there’s both The Ark and The 100.”
    Given that I don’t think Amber G is Grounders, I don’t really get a sense of whether she is Ark, 100, mafia or other, but this comment stands out to me because at this point in time we only have confirmation of there being Ark. But also there are others who are saying that 100 is also town. Is Amber G trying to slip in with them, or is she making a stand that the 100 are also town??
    Amber also tries to link Nicole and Dana:
    “So I went back to look at Nicole’s comments. She didn’t give us much to go off, but here she mentioned to Dana “I’m with you”, and also questioned Kara about Greg. Is there something there?”
    Amber G then comes at Greg as well:
    “I’m specifically looking to tie him to Nicole and Mt Weather for the purposes of this exercise.”
    “And my post was about making the connection between you [Greg] and Nicole so as I said, I was making any possible connection I could.”
    As I’ve address in Greg’s section above, I think the following reasons: not knowing what to call mafia, grounder alliance, not being around much on D2 after he said that he wouldn’t be around much on D2, and voting for Kara, are all very circumstantial. But this is possibly because I also tick every one of those boxes. You could literally be coming for me for the exact same reasons, especially because I hadn’t even checked in on D2 at this stage (and only did 13 hours before the end of Day). Therefore:
    @Amber G: why are you more suspicious of Greg than you are of me?
    Day 3: Greg
    Amber G straight up goes for Greg on Day 3. She also says:
    “@Harker – because I need Greg to have time to come in and try to defend himself so I can be sure 🙂 (still cooking, getting off the internet now)”
    But… how can Greg defend himself if he doesn’t know why you voted for him 3 seconds into D3?? She then comes back and lists the following reasons as being sus of Greg: Discussion of game mechanics. Quiet on D2. Nicole said she was sus of Greg (actually, she said she was always sus of Greg when they play together). He didn’t change his vote from Kara on D1.
    Amber G then hints that she has eavesdropping abilities and said that she saw two remarks from him:
    “I saw two remarks. One of his comments was relating to Kara and Jeann possibly being linked. And now Kara is dead.
    Of course, this could just mean he’s paired with someone and I could be totally off base here. I could possibly be giving myself away for no reason. But the fact that 1) he’s talking to someone at Night, and b) he mentioned Kara specifically who was then killed in the Night, makes me hugely suspicious (plus the things I was already talking about yesterDay) and so I voted.
    I needed to get all this out early so that we have time to discuss; so that Greg had time to come in and explain all this; and possibly someone can back up that he is able to innocently speak to someone at Night.”
    “The other comment was just Greg talking to Whoever about how he was surprised Shannon and I went after him so hard in Day 2.”
    I’ve addressed this previously, but I think the fact that Kara and Jeann were linked is pretty obvious. Most people had commented on this by now. And in fact, it’s been proved because they were both Grounders, as we all suspected.
    I have also mentioned my surprise that Shannon and Amber went at him hard, because all of their speculation seems circumstantial at best. I don’t find any of these comments that were overheard to be suspicious at all.
    Amber brings up Greg’s lack of activity during D2 again, and compares it to his “night actions”. (Again – she reported 2 comments, they might have been the only 2 or they might have been 2 of 1000; there’s not any way to validate this. And going after someone for being inactive after they have said they will be inactive is not really sound reasoning.)
    Amber G adds “not voting on D2” to her suspicions pile, after Jeann also mentions this.
    @Amber G: Harker asks you “Out of curiosity, did you learn anything N1? You’ve men N2 results leading to Greg’s chat, which makes me logically wonder about N1.” to which I can’t see an answer. Do you have a permanent ability or is this like a 1x use??
    Day 4: Greg
    Still sus of Greg.

  120. Nicole: Mt Weather
    Day 1: Anna → cancel → Kara
    Didn’t say a great deal at the start of Day 1, but did add to the suspicion of Kara:
    “I am on the fence here about whether Kara’s assertions about the Grounders are genuine. Does she really know something or is she trying to play us?”
    Nicole then backtracks:
    “At this point I am slightly suspicious of Kara but do think she is being genuine. I’m always suspicious of Greg whenever we play in the same game together, so I don’t know whether to trust that or not.”
    Inevitably, this comment is what got Nicole voted out. However, seeing more and more things pile up through looking deeper at this, it makes me wonder if Nicole and Greg are team mates.
    NICOLE IS VOTED OUT DAY 1

  121. In regards to:
    “Amber B then shoves Kerys and Jeann under the bus saying they are quick to cast suspicion on Greg, when their chat could be mafia instead of neighbour/mason as they are claiming.”

    I just felt it was a quick move to already state your semi role or chat abilities, it seemed early.

  122. Kerrie
    Day 1: Kerys → cancel → Harker → Kara
    Day 1 comments included:
    “Amber G pointed out that A.L.I.E. caused people to hallucinate, and now I’m wondering if someone out there can mess with night action results? Also, Shannon W pointed out that in the show Mt. Weather created reapers out of grounders, so I wonder too if there might be a some kind of cult-recruitment element?”
    “I just remember the kids, the adults on the ark, the grounders, and the creepy science people in the mountain. Who are the Ice Nation? Are mountain men the same as Mount Weather? Would grounders and Reapers likely be different factions?”
    “This makes me wary for two reasons–as others have said the grounders as a group could go either way, and I’m a little wary that this might be an attempt to cast the grounders as a pro-town team.”
    “I would definitely assume the 100 are town, so if Kara’s to be believed there’s two town groups”
    “thus operating under the assumption that there are two town groups: The 100 and the grounders.”
    “Based on my own information, that leads me to believe there are two town groups: The 100 and the Grounders.”
    Kerrie questions Kara over her suspicion of Greg, and also throws Anna’s name out as anti-Grounder asking why vote for Greg and not Anna? At this stage Anna has no votes on the board.
    Kerrie votes for Harker (over confusion/suspicion between the two – I didn’t really get it), but then switches to Kara to break the Nicole 5, Kara 5 tie at 5 minutes to go.
    I would say that Kerrie is likely 100.
    Day 2: Siran
    Nothing Kerrie said on D2 really stuck out to me. I’ve addressed Siran’s choice to not vote above.
    Day 3: Greg → Megan Rose
    Kerrie outlines suspicions of Greg, Megan Rose, Meeghan (me), Beth.
    Mentions that my use of “glean” on D1 could be code word. Says Beth saying that the Traitor is not important.
    “felt like minimizing/trying to divert the conversation from the existence of a traitor”
    Kerrie then backtracks on Greg somewhat, and then votes for him anyway:
    “It’s why I’m torn about Greg. If he’s mafia, revealing this just tips town off & hurts the mafia. If he’s telling the truth and has an informed town role, telling the town there’s a traitor helps town — as many people argued Day 1, any information is better than no information.”
    After Greg’s ‘vote thief’ announcement, Kerrie cancels her vote and switches to Megan Rose, which creates a tie.
    Day 4: Kerys
    Kerrie starts Day 4 saying that she’s sus of Harker for not changing their vote towards end of D3. However, it looks like Harker is right and Jeann was a cultist. TBH I don’t think I’ve ever seen Harker sway from their opinions and change votes on a whim (except that one time we played together and they were mafia), so I don’t see this as sus behaviour.
    Kerrie comes back and confirms she is most sus of: Greg, Harker and Kerys.

  123. Anne
    Day 1: Harker → cancel → Harker
    Anne barely says anything of note on Day 1, but she questions my comment and says
    “I’m with Amber G, I don’t understand what Meeghan means by this:
    • the 100 = town 1
• the ark = town 2
    Isn’t this one in the same? 🤔 Aren’t these the same people, how could it be two towns.”
    Based on this, I would say that Anne is NOT Ark.
    She readily agrees with Kerrie about Harker not knowing what to call town and votes for them.
    Day 2: Dana
    Anne does come in and say on D2 after being questioned by Kara:
    “The answer is that I knew one of those faction names and not the other. Jenn’s death did not prove that they are one in the same, but the opposite. It clarified for me, that there are at least two pro-town factions.”
    Which makes me think that Anne is team 100.
    Anne was also the first person to vote for Dana on D2, which admittedly, could have been a mafia ploy OR a townie vote, now that we know Dana was Third Party.
    Day 3: Megan Rose
    I thought it was Harker (28 Jan 9:53am), but Anne (27 Jan, 10:50pm) is the first to mention that Amber G’s reveal of Greg having a chat could be neighbour:
    “Well that’s super interesting news, Amber G! Could be a neighborhood situation like Shannon and I were in for Chaos Walking, or something infinitely more sinister like mafia chat.
    Looking forward to watching this unfold. 🍿”
    “Neighbors have no idea if they are aligned, except for their word. So one or the other could be lying to play a nice long con, or they’re both telling the truth. 🤷🏼‍♀️”
    Personally, I actually think it might be Anne in the chat with Greg. I’m basing this purely off her being the first one to say that it might be a neighbour chat.
    Anne then re-states her suspicions of Megan Rose and Amber B, and not long after votes for Megan Rose.
    Harker and Anne have a small back and forth about the existence of a Cult.
    Day 4: Greg
    Anne comes in early to vote for Greg saying it must have been mafia who piled on Megan Rose, and also that Harker is sus.
    Anne questions how many ‘informed’ roles there are: Greg, Megan, Harker. However, Megan is proven to be a “Jack of all trades”, so is that really sus?

  124. Kerys: Neighbour
    Day 1: Kara → cancel → Harker → Nicole
    Kerys says very little of note on Day 1, just that she doesn’t want to vote for Kara because she might be town-aligned. She does vote for Harker because Harker wavers on what to call town.
    Kerys changes her vote to Nicole to tie the game (Nicole 6, Kara 6) at 1 minute to go.
    Day 2: Dana
    When questioned about the tie on D1, Kerys says:
    “I didn’t actually know that a tie would result in no lynching. I don’t know what I thought would happen but my comment was posted a minute before the deadline and the only thing I was thinking about was keeping Kara in the game.”
    Kerys also mentions suspicions of Greg and Amber B on D2.
    Kara brings up something interesting about Kerys towards end of D2. On D1 Kerys hinted that she didn’t want to vote for Nicole as Nicole hadn’t had an opportunity to defence her vote, yet at 1 min to go, Kerys DOES change her vote, tying the votes at 6 apiece. It’s an interesting move. If she were a team mate then changing her vote is either odd because why wouldn’t she leave it with Kara having more votes, but also with enough speculation that Kara was pro-town, it could throw light on Kerys being a “good townie” by changing her vote to Nicole. But it’s risky if others decide to also change votes, as we saw happen, because then mafia is down a player on D1. Kara later confirms with:
    “For my hypothesis about Kerys I went with the hypothetical option of Kerys is mafia and switched her vote from Harker to Nicole with less than a minute to go before EOD to ensure that there was a tie and no-one was lynched that day. As this would allow for two things:
    1. Nicole (mafia) would have been saved and
    2. I would have been saved and thus the whole discussion of whether Grounders are good or not would be still a much larger topic today, given we would not know that Nicole was mafia.
    So yes, based on that hypothesis, it could have been a move to obstruct information.”
    Again, I still think this is a super risky mafia move.
    Kerys also mentions that Siran is sus for not voting.
    Day 3: Greg → Megan Rose
    Kerys gets questioned a a lot about a statement re night kills, which is addressed below.
    Kerys drops a bomb that she and Jeann are in a mason/neighbour chat. Game explodes. Says is sus of Greg as it’s unlikely there are two.
    Kerys agrees with Beth that knowing about a Traitor isn’t helpful and votes for Greg.
    Kerys switches her vote from Greg to Megan Rose to break the tie at 1 minute to go.
    Day 4:
    Kerys is sad that Megan and Jeann are gone, but dashes all thoughts of being in a cult:
    “Re. me being a cult member. Since me and Jeann only revealed our chat yesterday, the cult leader wouldn’t have known to turn both me and Jeann into cult members. And even if they did, i doubt we would have shared that info with the other person just in case they weren’t cult.”
    Ahhhh, but they might have turned you last night. OR Jeann could have told them you were in a neighbour chat (depending on when Jeann was turned and whether cult has a chat), so that’s not really a valid explanation.

  125. Cult
    Harker quotes this from the game wiki “the grounders, who live in clans locked in a power struggle; The Mountain Men, who live in Mount Weather, descended from those who locked themselves away before the apocalypse; and the Reapers, another group of grounders who have been turned into cannibals by the Mountain Men.”, which admittedly, mixed with Kerrie and Shannon’s comment above, is where my theory of Reapers being Cult and only grounders can be turned into Cult has sprung from.
    HOWEVER, I now don’t think Reapers are a thing / Cult. I then thought that Jaha was the Cult Leader as he has more to do with the City of Light/ALIE. This would lead more to them being third party aligned as from what I can gather, Jaha was originally in the Ark and was not a Grounder/Mountain Man.
    AND if Jaha was the Cult leader then it wouldn’t necessarily be only Grounders able to be turned into Cult. It looked like Jaha could come after anyone, including maybe mafia?
    However, I then realised that Jenn was Theolonius JAHA, so that’s not possible.
    Which then leaves me two trains of thought:
    1. I’m right about the Reapers being the Cult.
    2. ALIE is in game and is the Cult leader.
    Based on what we have seen in regards to Jeann’s comments about Cult, I then went back and looked for anyone who mentioned ALIE, especially anyone who said it was unlikely they would be in the game:
    Amber G: I’d forgotten about ALIE. She showed up at the end of Season 2, so it’s entirely possible she’s about. She’d probably be third party as she wasn’t allied with anyone, she was going all out to save mankind. She got into people’s heads as a hologram/hallucination.
    Beth: So I think collectively we’ve come up with a list of potential anti-Town factions: Mt Weather/Mountain Men, Ice Nation, City of Light/ALIE
    Beth: S3, Murphy continues to be a chameleon, working with the Grounders in fact (Ice Nation and crazypants Ontari) to stay alive, and he’s actually the vehicle through which we figure out the connection between Becca (the scientist who created ALIE and the neural interface chip) and the current-day Grounder culture.
    Amber B: Jaha is up in the air, but I doubt he’d be in this game but I don’t know. Same goes for Alie, I’m not sure how much she would be in here. I think the Grounders could be anti-town given the season 1 finale.
    Harker: Also, can someone tell me if A.L.I.E. is someone/thing we should worry about? A.I. in media always get the short stick so not having seen it I’m not sure how this version is portrayed.
    Anna: @Harker I forgot about A.L.I.E. I think from memory she could be a problem for the town. But I can’t remember the exact details. I haven’t gotten far enough on my rewatch yet.
    Beth: @Harker “Also, can someone tell me if A.L.I.E. is someone/thing we should worry about?”
    A.L.I.E. shows up a lot in S3, so maybe. I hope this doesn’t spoil anything, but she’s portrayed as most powerful A.I.s in media are (autonomous, nearly omnipotent, but lacking all empathy and therefore able to commit terrible acts “for the good of all”). Thanks for bringing this up- I hadn’t considered it!
    Kerrie: It’s been a while since I watched the 100, but ya’ll have come up with some good game set up theories! Amber G pointed out that A.L.I.E. caused people to hallucinate, and now I’m wondering if someone out there can mess with night action results? Also, Shannon W pointed out that in the show Mt. Weather created reapers out of grounders, so I wonder too if there might be a some kind of cult-recruitment element?
    Harker: (quotes Kerrie above and adds) Now there’s a terrifying thought. I remember that happened in the ADSOM game and we got super lucky because the Cult Leader died early. That would be an interesting/terrifying twist, kind of a zombie bite thing I suppose? 🤔

    In terms of Cult picking Jeann over Kara, I would likely have done the same. Jeann all but backs Kara up that the Grounders are pro-town, without causing the chaos that Kara did. There’s no point turning someone to Cult if you assume they’re going to be up on the voting blocks again on D2 OR the mafia could target them because they’ve all but screamed “I’m town and important to town winning”. Plus, with that being said, it could have been likely that a protector role would have tried to protect Kara after her end of Day statements, and we don’t know if a protector role can stop a Cult transition.

    @Amber G: On D3 you say “I’m still worried ALIE might make an appearance at some point (maybe she was around last Night?).” Do you have anything to back this up??

    On D3, Harker lists the following people as not commenting on Cult situations:
    Anna, Anne, Amber B. (YA), Jeann, Maria, Meeghan, Shannon
    I agree with Harker’s reasoning:
    “@Anne: because a cult/cult-offshoot can spring up on Townspeople and finding out what people think can be revealing from one day to the next. If they say one thing toDay and are around the next day and seem to take a different tact, then the evidence may stack up against them. They’re as dangerous as a Mafia because if they become the majority, they win.”

    Beth says that she doesn’t think Cult would be a thing this time around.
    Anne questions why Harker wants people to chime on “an unfounded theory around cults? This feels really odd to me? I have no opinion because I have not seen evidence so far either way.” “Yeah, okay, a cult can catch up on the town, but the mafia is a threat we know exists right now. Asking for lots of speculation about something seems like a distraction tactic from what we know: Mt. Weather is the enemy.”
    Jeann says she’s not sure either way about a cult. It could be a possibility?, but she doesn’t have any reason to believe so at the moment. And it looks distracting like they’re trying to shift the focus on a potential cult and other threats, when as Anne said, Mt Weather is our confirmed threat for now.

    **Are Jeann AND Anne Cult members??

  126. Night kills vs story games
    JENN IS KILLED NIGHT 1
    Beth starts D2 saying:
    “– It was a Mafia kill: either they targeted her directly, or Mafia can make more than 1 night kill, and Jenn wasn’t protected.
    – It was the mods: Jenn did the Night Action story option the mods gave us, and it resulted in her death.
    – It was the result of her or another character’s power: This is more of a long shot, but we’ve seen this in other TBG editions, where a power “backfires” somehow and kills someone.
    I think Beth actually raises an interesting point. Since Jenn was a Cop, she definitely had a night time investigative role. So this is a genuine option. I know that I theorised on night kills earlier toDay when I was trying to determine when Jeann was turned, and I hadn’t thought of this.

    Amber B: “Also, I had a thought but I wonder if the game masters chose Jenn’s answer and that resulted in her death rather than a Mafia kill.”
    Shannon: “Sad and confused to see us lose a pro-town Ark character in Jenn overnight though. I’m curious if it was a Mafia kill or a night game result as many have questioned.”

    As someone who was a spectator for BYOC2, and requested the mods to “drop the button” on multiple days, I don’t think their “Story” game would result in our deaths. I do think that it might provide us ‘abilities’ or ‘consequences’, such as having a vote stolen (and then spectator chat may decide who the vote goes to, or it could be random) or a 1 night investigator role. Additionally, with SO MANY factions on the board, plus a cult, a mafia and a third party on the board already trying to kill us, I think the game would be too overpowered if the optional story responses were to also kill us.

    So, given that both Beth, Amber B and Shannon have mentioned it, was this to remove suspicion over Jenn’s comments on D1 and make it sound like she kind of randomly killed herself from an action? The only thing Jenn really said on D1 was that she didn’t find Greg or Meeghan (me) suspicious.

    Jeann then responds to Beth:
    “I just looked back at Jenn’s comments and I don’t really find it odd that she was killed last Night? It looks like a fairly standard revenge kill by the Mafia to me, given she voted for Nicole. I find those speculating that it is odd/ might be due to the random boat thing from admins to be a bit suspect, because that doesn’t seem to be the most logical conclusion for me anyway.
    Perhaps if she was a Mafia kill, they want to throw shade on those who had it out for Jenn yesterDay, like Maria, Amber B and Anna.”
    Beth then responds to Jeann with
    “Does that mean you’re thinking Jenn was a good middle-of-the-road choice, because she was unlikely to have been protected in the night and had marginally more votes than Harker, therefore marginally more players to throw shade on?”

    I find this interesting, because if I had a protective role, I probably wouldn’t have protected Jenn at the end of D1. She wasn’t even the first person to vote for Nicole (that was Jeann, although looking at the last vote tally at 6:56pm, it DOES list Jenn first: Nicole (5)- Jenn, Jeann, Kara, Harker, Beth) and she only made 6 comments all day. The only thing that she said that stood out to me was that she didn’t find Greg or I suspicious, and that she hinted that Ark was town (which I had already been saying).

    SIRAN AND KARA WERE KILLED NIGHT 2
    Amber G: Two Night deaths? Okay, this could be the work of two different teams, or this could be the mods getting reaaaaally upset about us killing off Murphy haha. Or something to do with the Night stories? Has anyone actually heard back about those yet?
    Harker: Does the increase of night kills mean an ally made a mistake and the Mafia also struck? If so, what happened the first Night when there was only one kill? Did the ally with a killing ability also make a move then and the Mafia did something else, then kill N2? 🤔
    Kerys: Woah I did not expect 2 night deaths. @Amber G I agree that one of those might be mafia and the other as a result of the night challenge thing because mentioning the acid fog is kinda sus. Also, I wouldn’t have expected the mafia to target Siran, since we all started questioning her at the end of yesterDay and it would have made for some chaos and distraction today.
    Jeann questions Kerys: @Kerys – How do you know the Mafia targeted Siran and not Kara?
    Kerrie: @Kerys, what makes you think the mafia targeted Siran and not Kara? Personally, I thin kara makes more sense as a mafia target, she’s been very outspokenly pro-town
    Beth: And now there’s the question of whether the two deaths were a multi-character Mafia hit, a Mafia kill + other team kill, a Mafia kill + random effect from the Night Action story kill (which could’ve been the result of N1 *or* N2), Night Action story kill + other team kill….or something else entirely.
    Maria: The 2 deaths could be 2 randoms, 1 mafia kill 1 random, 1 night action 1 mafia, or 2 night actions (the 1st night is delayed until the 2nd) or maybe something else (can’t think of many combinations for now 😂)
    If one of them is indeed mafia’s kill, then who is it between the two?
    Kerys:
    “– assuming the mafia can only kill one person every night (based on night 1), one of the deaths must have happened another way (unless the mafia has an arsonist who has to prime before they can light, or if something stopped them from making their second kill on Night 1)
    – so the mafia probably targeted Kara because she hinted at being very important in the first day.
    – or maybe the mafia didn’t actually target Kara, but she died while protecting someone else. did Kara seem particularly likely to protect anyone in the last day?
    – I don’t know for sure that Siran is/isn’t a mafia death but assuming that the mafia can only kill 1 person, it seems more likely that Kara was a mafia death and Siran’s death was caused by a third party or the night event.
    – This is because if Siran was alive toDay it would have lead to a lot of chaos which would have diverted the attention away from any actual mafia players. So in my eyes, it would have benefitted the mafia to leave her alive, unless they had any other reasons for killing her.
    There are a lot of unlesses and maybes in that but I’m just trying to cover all possibilities.”
    Jeann: “My thought pattern at the moment is that Kara was a Bodyguard that could choose one player to protect every night. If Siran was targeted by two members, and she chose to protect Siran last Night, both of them would be eliminated. Another possibe explanation for two night deaths is if Kara was protecting Siran, and if multiple people tried to target Siran, they both would’ve died.”

    However, given that Kara had said that she was sus of Siran at the end of Day 2, I don’t think that Kara would have tried to protect Siran, which Harker backs (below). I think Kara would have tried to protect someone else who was either saved, OR mafia killed Kara. My Siran theory is above in Anna’s section.
    Harker: “I don’t recall Kara showing any particular signs that she would protect anyone, but then again I wasn’t looking for it. Thinking back, though, I can’t imagine that I would have seen Siran being a logical choice from her perspective.”

    JEANN IS KILLED N3
    I’ve either missed something or no one really speculates if this is anything other than mafia kills.

    However, Greg confirms that he played the Games on N2, and then he had his vote stolen on D3, which lends credence to this thought.

  127. Thank you for coming to my *many many hours long* TED talk.

    TLDR:
    I’m most sus of:
    * Amber B
    * Maria

    Anna might accidentally be killing people with her vote.

    Beth and Anne could be in Cult.

    VOTE: MARIA

  128. For reference, I am also sus of Shannon, but I think it’s also reasonable to assume that Shannon and Greg are both townies who are just distracted.

    If they both make it to D5, I’d really like to see them put their deductive reasoning powers to use on someone else for a Day to see if we can find other solutions rather than just pointing the same fingers at each other (noting that Greg has only pointed the finger at Shannon on D4).

  129. One last thing: I’m really sorry. I meant to put more spacing in when I dropped this all in here. But because I was typing it in my notes, I took some of the spacing out because of how long it all got, and then obvs I forgot to put it back in. My bad!!! 😓

  130. Good lord, Meeghan. 😂

    Voting Update:
    Greg (3) — Shannon, Anne, Amber G.
    Shannon (1) — Greg
    Kerys (4) — Harker, Kerrie, Maria, Amber B
    Kerrie (2) — Beth, Anna
    Maria (1) — Meeghan

    Not voting: Kerys

    Haven’t met comment minimum: Amber G. (2)

    Just over 2.5 hours left.

  131. @Anna, I just woke up, so I might simply be undercaffeinated, but I don’t really understand the logic behind your vote for me. Beth offered a similar argument about not liking that I tied the votes at the end of the previous day, but her theory is that greg is mafia and that I tied the vote to save him and I’ve explained my reasons for my vote yesterday. But if you believe greg to be town, what about my voting looks suspicious to you? And also, *none* of what Kerys has said or done rings alarm bells for you? Not even the comment about lie detecting Jeann? I’d love to hear your thoughts on that in particular.

  132. Okay I’m addressing Meeghan’s specific questions for me and then I’m going back in to read through her other comments (good work on these, this must have taken ages!!)

    @Amber G: did you ever make that list? And would you be willing to share it?

    No, I didn’t make a list after we found a Mafia member in D1, the Grounders had been all but confirmed by Kara, along with my own Team (100).

    @Amber G: are you hinting that you think there could be a second Cop?

    Nope, was just theorising about whether Ark was definitely Town and whether we were supposed to all be working together. I figured we were all meant to be working together.

    Is Amber G trying to slip in with them, or is she making a stand that the 100 are also town??

    I was saying The 100 is also Town along with the then-revealed Team Ark.

    @Amber G: why are you more suspicious of Greg than you are of me?

    Nicole mentioned Greg > I tried to link them > I investigated Greg out of curiosity and due to his mild link to Nicole > Greg has a chat that he uses at Night > Greg was talking about Kara the night she died > a different Neighbour chat was revealed > no one backed Greg up
    That’s the thought process there.

    @Amber G: Harker asks you “Out of curiosity, did you learn anything N1? You’ve men N2 results leading to Greg’s chat, which makes me logically wonder about N1.” to which I can’t see an answer. Do you have a permanent ability or is this like a 1x use??

    I shared this in my first comment of the day.

    My results so far:

    N1: Jenn (didn’t hear anything plus she died)
    N2: Greg (said what i heard yesterDay)
    N3: Kerrie (No Result)

  133. @Meeghan WOW that’s a lot of work, thanks for doing all that. I’m going to have to re-read through it all again but I wanted to make sure to address your comments and questions towards me first. You say my leaving my Day 1 vote as random “may be how Shannon plays, but I find it really odd.” As I stated on Day 2, it is how I’ve played, this is only my third game and that is what I did in the first two games I played in. I didn’t have any strong suspicions at the end of Day 1 because we had nothing proven to go off of, so I didn’t feel comfortable/confident voting for anyone other than random.

    In regards to Day 3, I never said I wasn’t suspicious of you… I merely said I am very suspicious of Amber B and Greg. 🙂

    Re: you questioning “what makes me so certain someone will die??” – In both my previous two games someone died every Night, which is why I said we would learn nothing if there was a tie and we would still lose someone at night.

    Re: Anne asking me about the “other one of us” I did answer it right away – I mentioned I was using “us” as “the people’s us” in a general sense of the term. Not “us” as in a Town member. See my comment below:

    @Anne – When I said “snipe one of us with last-second vote switches” I meant it as ‘the people’s’ us; as in any one of us. Obviously, Nicole and Dana dying was very good, as they are both anti-town. With Megan – not good at all. Having close votes at the end of the Day is definitely something to try to avoid with the vote switching happening.

    I did read your comment about the cults thoroughly and you bringing up the possibility of Alie being the Cult leader has really made me think. I have been so focused/worried about Mt. Weather turning Grounders into Reapers and that possibly being the cult that I didn’t even think of that scenario. Do you have any thoughts/suspicions who Alie could be?!

  134. @Meeghan Apologies if I missed any of your questions- kinda hard to catch them in that wall of text.

    @Beth, you did a bunch of thinking about Murphy on D1, which (to me) looked like Murphy would be very anti-Jaha/City of Light although (according to the Wiki) Jaha went to Murphy for assistance. Do you think it’s reasonable to think that Murphy would have had some info on them/do you think it would be worth combing through Dana’s comments to see who she tried to target?

    Good question….I don’t think I did a bunch of thinking, given it was just one comment on D1, but I’ll do some now, if that helps. 😀
    In the show, Murphy was anti-City of Light (and also anti-Jaha in general). If you’re asking whether the Murphy role would be Informed, with info on Jaha or the City of Light, I think it’s as possible as Greg being Informed about a Traitor. And by that, I mean it’s a small enough amount of information that it might not have helped Dana by herself, but when compiled with other data revealed by other players throughout the game, it might’ve been a big help in rooting out the Cult. So yeah, it might be worth digging through Dana’s interactions.

    So, given that both Beth, Amber B and Shannon have mentioned it, was this to remove suspicion over Jenn’s comments on D1 and make it sound like she kind of randomly killed herself from an action? The only thing Jenn really said on D1 was that she didn’t find Greg or Meeghan (me) suspicious.

    For my part, I listed out the possible reasons for Jenn’s death precisely *because* Jenn didn’t really say much on D1 that would make her a target, IMO. Which made me think she wasn’t necessarily targeted by Mafia (I figured Kara was targeted and protected on N1), so I was trying to consider what else might’ve caused a Night death. One of the 3 options I listed touched on the fact that she *or another character* might’ve done something that resulted in her Night death (her power could’ve backfired somehow, or there could be a third-party killer like Poisoner, or there could be a passive ability that resulted in her death when she, as a Cop, investigated a specific person- all of which we’ve seen in previous TBG). The fact that there were two Night deaths on N2 has not alleviated my concern about this possibility.

    @Meeghan Since you state suspicion of both Amber B and Maria, can you clarify why you’re voting Maria rather than Amber B at this point?

  135. I said “third-party killer like Poisoner”, above, but I should be clear that Poisoner can be a role given to a Townie, so it’s possible it’s not a third-party as in anti-Town, but third party as in Town with killing ability. Sorry for not being more clear. More coffee needed today. 😀

  136. Based on @Meeghan’s comments about Anna, who has been flying completely under my radar, I went back and looked at her votes. It is very suspicious that every one of Anna’s votes has been for Ark or The 100 characters – Jenn on Day 1 (Ark), Siran on Day 2 (The 100), and Megan Day 3 (the 100). Anna is now voting for Kerrie toDay. I know/see suspicions with Kerrie after yesterDay’s events, but it’s got me thinking if there is some pattern to Anna’s voting and what that could mean about Kerrie – is she a 100 or Ark character??

  137. @Shannon: ok. 🙂 Thank you for responding. Oh. and I just caught this as I’m going back and forth, but the first person to bring up a counterpoint to Greg and his chat being Mafia was actually Anne (when she said it could be a Neighborhood like you and she has in Chaos Walking).

    @Meeghan: while reading your posts, I had some thoughts.

    Jeann’s quote from D3:

    “So call our move bold if you wish but even if one of us gets killed tonight, I’d say it was worth it.”

    +

    Your comment:

    Kerys drops a bomb that she and Jeann are in a mason/neighbour chat. Game explodes. Says is sus of Greg as it’s unlikely there are two.

    Jeann is the one that says this and then it is she who gets killed and has such telling information revealed about her. That’s interesting to me. What was it about revealing her and Kerys’s matchup that made the risk “worth it”, to use her words? Why wait two days to do so after Greg’s chat had been brought up?

    Further Meeghan’s comments…

    Dana:

    Do you think it’s reasonable to think that Murphy would have had some info on them/do you think it would be worth combing through Dana’s comments to see who she tried to target?

    Her suspicions are pretty concisely held in this post from D2 if that helps: https://thebookishgames.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/the-100-day-two/#comment-79128.

    Greg:

    Meeghan, you posted this quote of Greg’s

    “the 100 kids and the Ark people are the “good” guys, although judging from the show not everyone on the Ark is a good guy!”

    And it reminded me of Diana Sydney in season one, the councilwoman/former Chancellor who could be a traitor because of her actions against Thelonious Jaha and the Ark. She was a bad egg.

    @Meeghan:

    “the 100 kids and the Ark people are the “good” guys, although judging from the show not everyone on the Ark is a good guy!”

    I don’t know if Murphy would be on a team within the show/books, though I think others have mentioned people he would be associated with (I can’t remember which girl(s) he became connected with), though if that isn’t the case, it wouldn’t surprise me as a Survivor to be a sole team member either (see: Team Thunderhead or Team Black London for examples of single member teams).

    And based on what we can see from the gems stone colours, it would appear that the lead Reaper/Cult Leader is likely third party and not mafia, but maybe also Ark related??

    Megan speculates that Jaha is the Cult Leader and Murphy would be a Survivor.

    Question: the Jaha in the series that becomes part of A.L.I.E.’s cult…isn’t that Thelonious? 😬 Well, not him apparently. Maybe A.L.I.E. herself?

    “If that’s the case then someone blocks Amber G and it could be either the mafia or the cult leader. Don’t think the town would block her 😂”

    However, I think we’re all forgetting that we had a bodyguard on Night 1 still, so could this have been Kara doing her job??

    I’m not 100% on this, but Bodyguards only protect from kill attempts, yes? Not from other abilities. 🤔

    Meeghan, once again, you’ve done an amazing amount of work. Hopefully we can get something from this. 😀

  138. @Shannon I don’t see where Anna voted for Siran or Megan. Can you clarify where you’re seeing that?
    You bring up an interesting point, so here’s the compiled list of everyone who voted for a known Townie (I didn’t include Jeann, because we don’t know when she become a Cultist):
    Voted for Siran: Kerrie, Kara, Dana
    Voted for Jenn: Jeann, Anna, Maria, Amber B
    Voted for Kara: Amber G (twice), Kerys, Greg (twice), Nicole, Meeghan, Amber B, Dana, Kerrie
    Voted for Megan: Maria (twice), Dana, Anne, Meeghan, Amber B, Kerrie, Kerys

    For whatever it might mean:
    Players who voted for 4/4 confirmed Townies: None
    Players who voted for 3/4 confirmed Townies: Kerrie, Dana, Amber B
    Players who voted for 2/4 confirmed Townies: Maria, Kerys, Meeghan

  139. Oh shoot, I see what happened. I was searching the words “Vote ” and she put a colon in there….. thank you!
    AMENDED
    Voted for Siran: Kerrie, Kara, Dana, Anna
    Voted for Jenn: Jeann, Anna, Maria, Amber B
    Voted for Kara: Amber G (twice), Kerys, Greg (twice), Nicole, Meeghan, Amber B, Dana, Kerrie
    Voted for Megan: Maria (twice), Dana, Anne, Meeghan, Amber B, Kerrie, Kerys, Anna

    For whatever it might mean:
    Players who voted for 4/4 confirmed Townies: None
    Players who voted for 3/4 confirmed Townies: Kerrie, Dana, Amber B, Anna
    Players who voted for 2/4 confirmed Townies: Maria, Kerys, Meeghan

  140. Hi sorry i haven’t been able to check in. It’s my brother’s birthday and we’ve been hanging out today. I haven’t read the new comments yet and I probably won’t be able to be around EOD so I’m just going to

    VOTE GREG

    for the reasons I stated yesterDay and also to save myself 🙂

  141. OK, well, apparently WordPress eats carrots. I was searching the words “Vote (Player Name)” and she put a colon in there.

  142. Meeghan said

    Ahhhh, but they might have turned you last night. OR Jeann could have told them you were in a neighbour chat (depending on when Jeann was turned and whether cult has a chat), so that’s not really a valid explanation.

    This, plus obviously self preservation.

    CANCEL VOTE

    VOTE KERYS

  143. @Kerys: I know you said you were busy and there are quite a lot of comments to get through (thank you Meeghan 😂), so I think one that a couple people had brought up relating to you specifically was when you said this:

    Maybe she’d been turned before last night and didn’t want me to lie detect her or something if she outright said it.

    Kerrie asked: “Does this mean you have a lie detector ability like Siran did? And if so, did you use it to check Greg’s claims from the last Day?”

    Greg encouraged checking.

    I asked if you’d been able to confirm anything in the past.

    There was a bit more but this is the first bit and we’re pressed for time. Would you be able to address this at all?

  144. @Harker – thanks for doing that, I was off making lunch! And @Beth – thanks for doing the breakdown of who voted for 3/4 and 2/4 townies – this is important to keep in mind. Maybe next game I’ll set up a spreadsheet to keep track of everything better!

    I find it interesting that Amber B is also in the group of people that voted for 3/4 townies, she is high on my suspicion list as well. Kerrie and Dana did too though, and Kerrie has gotten a lot of attention/suspicion, but Dana has been quite under the radar as well..

  145. @Kerys what do you mean by your comment? Can you explain further? Are you protected in some way? I don’t know enough about the roles but in ADSOM I remember Siran got voted off but didn’t die one day.

  146. @Harker yes Meeghan’s comments are a lot to get through 😂 No I do not have a lie detector ability I was just trying to come up with reasons as to why Jeann might not have wanted to explicitly share her town. She mentioned wanting to be careful since there was an eavesdropper but I wasn’t completely convinced by that reason.

  147. @Harker and @Amber G – guh thanks, this is why I need to focus on one thing at a time and not cooking/eating while the Day is ending haha 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

  148. Shannon:

    I don’t know enough about the roles but in ADSOM I remember Siran got voted off but didn’t die one day.

    Omg, that was such a confusing time. It was because she was linked to the Kell character and could only die if that person did once Siran had been targeted for elimination. It was one of the big twists of the game.

  149. @Kerys

    i do also want to mention that it isn’t in the town’s best interest to vote for me because you won’t learn anything if I end up with the most votes.

    Are you saying that you have an ability, aside from just being a Neighbor? I’m getting confused about who is subtly claiming to be able to do what at this point.

  150. Kerys, if you’re protected in some way and that’s your power, then having the majority of votes won’t kill you (a la Siran in ADSOM), so I’m not sure why you’re doing this Hail Mary thing…? Sorry if I’m dense here, it’s just…what?

  151. Ahhhhh thank you, Kerys. OK, that makes sense.
    *insert frustrated noises here*

    Right, I’m more suspicious of Kerrie than Greg right now, and if Kerrie *is* Mafia as I think she is, I’m guessing my voting for her today will result in my death toNight. But it’s down to Greg and Kerys. And I suspect Greg slightly more than Kerys, at this point, so:

    CANCEL VOTE

    VOTE GREG

  152. Oh FFS, Beth, read the vote tally before voting. *insert more frustrated noises here*
    Caused a freaking tie like a jerk. And now I’m gonna have to vote switch, which I hate. Sorry!

  153. The question comes down to I don’t really know that I believe Kerys, especially with the Neighbor chat thing going on. I’m not sure about Greg either. But considering there’s a tie, if we DO believe Kerys, we’re at the same point either way.

  154. Day Four has officially ended. The person with the most votes (5) is Kerys. Kerys was Marcus Kane, Team The Ark, Governor, Neighbor.

    (Upon further review, Harker’s vote had come in just after the timer had ended, but we wanted to be sure and double check.)

    It is now Night Four. If you have a special role that involves a Night action, please submit the form by Tuesday 7pm GMT (48 hours from now, but honestly the sooner the better). The form can be found by clicking the “Current Game” link in the menu and scrolling to the bottom of the page.

    One more thing…

    You expected a twist, and we wouldn’t be hospitable gamemakers if we didn’t deliver. This edition, we have NIGHT EVENTS! These are 100% optional, but can give you a nice reward (or, whoops, maybe a penalty). Our Fourth Night event goes like this:

    You find yourself locked in a cage because some rude older gentlemen wearing 100 year old suits want to take all your bone marrow. You have no supplies but the loincloth on your back. How are you getting out?

    If you’d like to enter, simply fill in the Night Action form with your response to our question. We’ll then randomly choose a winner (or loser).

    Day Five will start on Wednesday 7pm GMT. Any additional casualties will be revealed at that time. Good luck!

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