The 100: Day Two

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Eliminated

Game Master’s Notes

Well, that was a spectacular Day One. Shannon and I could barely keep up with all the votes at the end of the Day 😂 But you’ve definitely made things a lot more interesting than usual, and well done to the Town for immediately eliminating a Mafia member on your first Day! Not bad, Town. Not bad.

I mean, you also lost your Cop during the Night, so there’s that. A well-placed revenge kill from the Mafia, or is something else at play?

As always, don’t be afraid to contact us if you have any questions or just want to chat in private about what’s going on during the Game. We are here to help and want to make this as fun of an experience as possible! If it’s urgent, keep our time zones in mind: Inge lives on CEST (GMT/UTC+1) and Shannon on ET (GMT/UTC-5).

It is now Day Two.

You have until Sunday 7pm GMT to discuss suspicions and cast your votes. Once the deadline has been reached, the person with the most votes will be eliminated.

Good luck!

218 thoughts on “The 100: Day Two”

  1. First, I must apologize for creating a tie at the end of Day 1, I was typing out my comment with my cat on my chest and it took forever. A lot changed in that time.

    Second, WE GOT OUT A MAFIA MEMBER! I’m so glad that things ended as they did and it worked in our favor!

  2. Omg!! First SO HAPPY we got the mafia out in Day 1!

    And sad we lost a cop 😭

    The EOD voting is so crazy! I wonder how all the admins could catch up with that 😂

    Okay it’s 2am here and going back to sleep

  3. Yay mafia out day 1! Go town!

    But also it definitely seems now as if there are lots of different groups, The Ark is now a contender.

    However, first off I’d just like to say, sorry for not voting yesterday (that fiasco at the end of the day was trying to stop a tie and I was a bit more in Kara’s camp, although not sure what I was doing because none of it made sense haha).

    I’d got it in my head that the day ended at 8pm for me (possibly from previous games but obvs not an excuse not to read this games info) and I’d come on with enough time which I clearly got wrong. There was a lot of information for me to go through in like 5 minutes and I just couldn’t get through it. Promise to be on the ball better today.

  4. Yay! We got a Mafia person! And it was Carl Emerson, which is satisfying even though his role was just a Goon (if you’ve seen the show, he’s a massive jerk and Clarke gets a pretty good revenge on him).
    AND now we know that Mount Weather is Mafia.

    So, analyzing some Nicole stuff. Nicole was the first to vote for Kara, which pretty well seals Kara’s assertion that she’s Town/pro-Town Grounder.

    Some notable quotes from Nicole:

    At first I was suspicious of Megan Rose’s surety that the Mount Weather faction is mafia but now it seems that might be a logical conclusion.

    Cheeky. 😀
    But this makes me wonder if Megan might also be Mount Weather/Mafia? And Nicole is supporting her or allying herself with Megan, by insinuating she considered Megan as a suspect but then dismissed her suspicion?

    I am on the fence here about whether Kara’s assertions about the Grounders are genuine. Does she really know something or is she trying to play us?

    Given that Nicole never recants this suspicion about Kara, I think Kara is, at the very least, not Mount Weather/Mafia.
    (to clarify, Nicole states “At this point I am slightly suspicious of Kara but do think she is being genuine” and then votes for Kara anyway)

    And some actions of others around Nicole:
    Jeann is the first to point out Nicole’s contradictory statement/vote, and to vote for Nicole based on that.
    Everyone else who voted for Nicole did so based on Jeann’s catching that red flag.
    So I think Jeann is NOT Mount Weather/Mafia, based on that.
    Yes, you could throw a teammate under the bus and later say you’re not suspicious of them after all, in order to distance yourself from that teammate, but Jeann’s argument is so certain and pointed that I don’t think that’s what happened.

    Jenn and Jeann both stated they thought Nicole was not a Grounder (see my comment on D1, January 17, 2021 at 4:05 pm) and they were right.
    Given I think Jeann isn’t Mafia, I’m going to (for now) assume Jenn is also not Mafia. I’m still not sure if they’re on the same team, but either way I think it’s a safe bet it isn’t the same team Nicole was on.

    In terms of the votes for Nicole, and the timing of them:
    – At -15 min, the top votes were Kara (4), Jenn/Harker/Nicole (3).
    – At -10 min, Harker switched their vote to Nicole, tying it between Kara and Nicole (4). They reasoned Kara’s boldness might be from a role whose win condition could be Jester, or because it’s a trap, so although they provided logic for why Nicole, as opposed to the other viable option of Jenn, it seems largely based on not voting off Kara.
    – Right after this, I changed my vote to Nicole to break the tie. Votes now Nicole (5) and Kara (4).
    – At -8 min, Dana voted for Kara, tying it again (at 5 each). The reason given for the vote was that we can gain more information on the accuracy of their claims after their role is revealed.
    – At -5 min, Kerrie changed her vote to Kara to break the tie. Votes now Kara (6) and Nicole (5).
    – At -1 min, Kara posted her farewell message, warning us that we “need Grounders to win” and to “do not trust non-Grounders”.
    – Right after this, Kerys changed her vote to Nicole to cause a tie (reason TBD), at 6 votes each.
    – Right after this, Megan voted for Nicole, breaking the tie Kerys caused. The reason given was she thinks we need Kara (presumably based on Kara’s farewell post). Votes now Nicole (7), Kara (6).
    – At -0 min, Dana changed her vote to Nicole (reason TBD). Votes now Nicole (8), Kara (6).
    – At -0 min, Megan cancelled her vote (reason TBD). Votes now Nicole (7), Kara (6).

    I’m generally suspicious of people who change their last-minute votes to cause a tie or in a way that has no reasoning associated with it, as oftentimes it’s to protect a teammate.
    Intentionally or unintentionally, the last minute votes that protected her were cast by Dana and Kerrie.
    – NOTE: Dana’s vote for Kara tied it and thus protected Nicole, but then at the actual last minute, she switched her vote to Nicole (possibly due to Kara’s farewell message, or possibly she didn’t see Megan’s last-minute vote and thought there was still a tie). Either way, it doomed Nicole.

    Questions:
    @Megan At the end of D1, when things were going tie-crazy, you voted for Nicole at the last moment, saying “I think we need Kara….maybe” (presumably because of her sudden Hail Mary reveal).
    But then you cancelled your vote.
    Can you say please tell us why, if we need Kara (and thus voting for Nicole would save Kara), you cancelled your vote for Nicole?

    @Kerys
    You changed your vote to Nicole at the last possible moment, knowing it would tie Nicole and Kara and thus result in no elimination. Can you please explain why you did that?

    @Dana
    You changed your vote at the last possible moment from Kara to Nicole (who at that point was in the lead anyway)- can you please tell us why?

    TL;DR
    Based on things Nicole said and others’ interpretation of Nicole, I think:
    Jeann, Kara, Jenn, Kerys, and Harker are NOT Mafia.

    Megan and Kerrie *might* be Mafia.
    – Megan did vote for Nicole when there was a tie, sealing Nicole’s doom to protect Kara, but then she tried to cancel her vote at the very last minute…maybe not seeing Dana’s last vote, and thinking she could save Nicole with a last-minute tie?
    – Kerrie’s vote for Kara broke the tie, thus protecting Nicole.

  5. I wrote the above while we were waiting for D2 to start.
    While it’s nice to see I was right about Jenn being Town, I’m surprised she was killed. I didn’t think she stood out as a target, personally (she didn’t participate much, overall).
    I’m going to need to gather my thoughts on Jenn’s being killed- didn’t want to make my already very long Nicole post even longer- and what that might point to.

  6. @Beth I saw Kerys’ post that would have tied it and wanted to break the tie. I didn’t see Megan’s post when I did so and so ended up being the second to do so. It was all so chaotic.

  7. Wow, what a frantic end of day! I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more hectic D1!

    I guess we know now why Nicole never explained her vote for Kara…

    @Beth, thanks for compiling a list of all the changes because that was a *lot* to keep up with at the end! As for your point about my vote for Kara, if I was trying to protect Nicole, I would have just left it at a tie because then no one would be eliminated and town would have less information to work off of. I ended up choosing kara to break the tie because we’d spent the day going back and forth over whether grounders were a town faction or not and having Kara’s role info revealed would have at least answered that question. I would have canceled my vote altogether when Kerys caused a tie, but I didn’t see it. Plus, I think so many people were trying to post at once in that last minute that my site glitched and wouldn’t load properly until the day had ended.

    I am curious too why Jenn was targeted. Although this part of the Day 2 post makes me wonder if it could have had something to do with the Night Events?

    A well-placed revenge kill from the Mafia, or is something else at play?

    I’ll have to take a look back at Jenn’s D1 comments.

    At least we know now that there are definitely more than two factions at play.

    @Kerys, I am curious why you caused such a last minute tie.

  8. @Beth Honestly, I was debating whether or not to change my vote to Nicole but in the end, I decided to do it because:

    – My vote for Harker wasn’t really affecting the outcome and to my reason for voting them could have literally just been caused by Harker’s confusion about the correct term like they kept saying

    – I wanted to keep Kara in the game for a bit longer because from her comments it really didn’t seem like she was mafia

    – Even though I wasn’t that suspicious of Nicole, she seemed less important than Kara in the moment.

    – I didn’t actually know that a tie would result in no lynching. I don’t know what I thought would happen but my comment was posted a minute before the deadline and the only thing I was thinking about was keeping Kara in the game.

    However it all worked out! I’m glad we managed to get rid of a mafia person on the first day! Shame to see Jenn go though.

  9. Thanks, Dana! (Yes, yes it *was* chaotic!)

    OK, looking over Jenn’s death, and I see three possibilities:
    – It was a Mafia kill: either they targeted her directly, or Mafia can make more than 1 night kill, and Jenn wasn’t protected.
    – It was the mods: Jenn did the Night Action story option the mods gave us, and it resulted in her death.
    – It was the result of her or another character’s power: This is more of a long shot, but we’ve seen this in other TBG editions, where a power “backfires” somehow and kills someone.

    Assuming for the moment it was a Mafia kill, Jenn’s notable actions in D1 were:
    She said:

    I’m going to be looking into the comments of those who are voting for Kara, because she has basically pointed herself out as a grounder, because that means those voting for her are NOT grounders.

    She then decided:

    Greg is honestly not standing out to me as sus right now. From his comments, I’m assuming he is not a Grounder, but I do believe he may ne 100/Ark
    Meeghan I believe to be a possible Ark member, since she was one of the first to use it as a “sure thing”. I could be wrong, but I think maybe the Ark are good guys. Based of my limited information.

    She then voted for Nicole, because:

    of the 3 voting for Kara currently, she is the one who sticks out to me the most. Because, as others have said, she said she thinks Kara is being genuine, but has also voted for her anyways.

    We now know Nicole was Mafia, so Jenn’s death lends credence to her theory that Greg and Meeghan are Town/Town-aligned.

    It’s possible that means Greg or Meeghan are Mafia, and Jenn’s death was deliberately to lend credence to her argument. Although….that seems like overkill, because she was correct about Nicole and therefore we’d already be inclined to believe her re: Greg and Meeghan.

    People who were openly suspicious of and/or voted for Jenn were:
    – Amber G (not stated suspicion, but called Jenn out as one of 3 people at top-of-mind who were being quiet).
    – Anna (voted Jenn because she hadn’t met the comment minimum)
    – Maria (voted Jenn because she was suspicious of Jenn’s statement that those voting for Kara must be non-Grounders, also states at that time she wants to vote for Kara)
    – Amber B (voted Jenn as suspicious for being under the radar and for the statement about her cat closing the tab with TBG on it)

    So Jenn’s death could’ve been a move to point the spotlight on one of those folks. The three that voted for Jenn never recanted their vote, but neither did they make a strong case for her.
    I’d love to hear anyone else’s theories…at this point, I’m leaning toward Jenn’s death being more random than targeted. 😦

  10. Thanks, Kerrie!
    Your statement

    As for your point about my vote for Kara, if I was trying to protect Nicole, I would have just left it at a tie because then no one would be eliminated and town would have less information to work off of.

    Yes, that’s true, but if you kept the tie instead of breaking it, Nicole would have been marginally less protected than if you switched votes to the other potential person in the hot seat (with 5 minutes to go until EOD, it was possible any number of people could switch votes to Nicole at that point).
    I’m not saying you ARE Mafia, I’m saying that this behavior is something I find worth noting, due to the result it caused.
    The super chaotic EOD voting means there’s a lot of guesswork on who saw which votes/comments before they changed their vote, so I wanted to point out all possible scenarios.

    Also, thanks Kerys for responding as well!

  11. Yay and we’re back! I was so excited after waking up after the Day had ended to see that we had gotten out a Mafia member! Well done everyone! I guess that confirms that Mt Weather is indeed Mafia, which was the result of a lot of speculation the first Day.

    One thing that I do want to look at are:
    The people who were confused about what the Ark/100 team were called, because now it’s confirmed that it’s “The Ark” from Jenns night death.

    Also more importantly, the voting that happened yesterday. I always think it’s likely that a Mafia member jumped on board the bandwagon to vote for Nicole, just to clear their name the next Day. Especially when it seemed like she was about to be voted off, so I’m always suspicious of last minute bandwagon votes.

  12. Checking in, but I’m in the midst of a busy work week so I don’t have many coherent thoughts. I would guess Jenn was killed so no real insight could be gained from her elimination. But, looking back at the votes end of Day One will be more than helpful to start. So exciting to get a mafia member on Day One.

  13. @Beth, that’s fair. I’m looking at end of day voters as well so it would be hypocritical of me to expect others not to look at my vote.

    I’m looking through D1 & putting my thoughts together. Will probably be back with a longer post later today or tomorrow.

  14. @Beth

    Yeah I can understand why you’d want an explanation for all that. Not my finest work haha. Tbh it was a little protecting Kara as I’d kind of mulled over during the day that I thought Kara was good pro-town. That Grounders could well be a second town group and not mafia.
    And then protected myself after I voted and then had stupid thoughts played out for everyone to see that just made me more sus.

    So I genuinely came online when I did, feeling bad when I saw I had like 10-15 mins to catch up on probably 100 comments which I knew there was just no way. The votes had changed drastically since I was last on and there were loads for Kara who I had decided I didn’t want to go out yesterday, and also for Nicole which I had no idea why the votes were for her in the first place.
    I think the first vote came for her after I was last on or I at least didn’t register it fully when I was on.

    When I thought there was a tie I tried to break it and vote for Nicole as I thought we just needed to keep Kara round longer, her certainty swayed me.
    And it is always better for someone to go since then we have info to play with, even if they did end up being town.

    Then I refreshed and saw more votes for Nicole coming in and tbh just got like a bit scared. I was acting in total self preservation. I didn’t want my name to be on the votes that got her out if it turned out she was good, seeing as I had no idea what made her sus to everyone in the first place.
    Thought it was just look like I was simply bandwagoning her and not genuine and sus at all. But of course me flip flopping is really what made me look bad.

    I shouldn’t have voted or anything in the first place, just said what I did about being too late to vote and leave it at that, as I couldn’t really make an informed vote. But it was just like 5 minutes of panicking and I’d already clicked post and that was that. Just a lot of ifs and buts flowing through my head to create a lot of suspicion my way, completely self inflicted.

    I know that all sounds very sus, especially now that we know Nicole was mafia so makes my actions look worse. But I have no other explanation, it is what it is.
    Can’t make any better of it now.

    Hope I actually made that coherent to read and happy to answer any follow up questions if I can.

  15. To add to the speculation on groups I think with Jenn gone and her role revealed only brings up more issues for us all. We’re told that Nicole as a member of Mt Weather is Mafia but not that Jenn as Team The Ark is Town. Meaning, I definitely think there are more than two groups. And I’m thinking that’s more than one town group, seeing as the cop role is usually (always?) Town aligned.

    I wouldn’t have guessed The Ark to be the main group of the games seeing as the shows and books follow The 100 mainly, and I thought this yesterday and still believe it now. So does that mean are still allies or is this more chaos from our game masters to sow discord so we just end up voting each other out. Puts a lot of yesterday’s comments in a different light. Will have to look back knowing what we now know.

    Although Jeanns comment above further cements my belief that she is neither The Ark or the 100 and is a Grounder member, alongside Kara. Her sticking with Kara so adamantly yesterday shows that.

    Tbh I think there are 3 towns. The 100, now The Ark, and the Grounders. So are just trying to pick off Mt Weather and us being divided is further subterfuge?

  16. Checking in real quick. Today has been a bit mad so I don’t have a lot at the moment.

    1. Good news that we’ve got a Mafia member out on D1! With so many people playing, I wonder what the odds are of that happening, considering there are generally so many more Townspeople than not.

    2. Jenn’s elimination is both disconcerting and confusing. I haven’t yet had time to analyze her comments to see if there may have been a reason (confusing -assuming this was the Mafia Night Kill, what did they see about her that was a threat? Why go after someone that, at a cursory look, seemed to be on the middling to lower end of the scale of theorizing/what have you) and disconcerting (it seems like The Ark was a Town/Pro-Town group so that’s one less person that is there to go against anti-Town members).

    3. @Jeann: I know you mentioned this:

    The people who were confused about what the Ark/100 team were called, because now it’s confirmed that it’s “The Ark” from Jenns night death.

    But Megan brings up a good point:

    I wouldn’t have guessed The Ark to be the main group of the games seeing as the shows and books follow The 100 mainly

    I’d guess this points ever stronger to the many smaller groups setup, also considering what Kara said about Grounders being necessary to winning at the end of Day yesterDay when she thought she was going to be voted out.

  17. Hi.

    I still have to read all the comments but I just wanted to check in and be able to get notifications on new comments.

  18. Okay so that’s awesome we got a Mafia on Day One, but Jenn? Ack. Sorry to see her go, she’s always a good player. And Jaha? We lost our Cop! The end of day was crazy, I was trying to desperately catch up on comments and never did get through them all before the end. But we have a lot to work with now.

    Also just an FYI- I might be around a little less toDay, at least the first part of the Day. The next few days are super busy, but I will try to stay caught up.

    Just some quick thoughts. I’m less suspicious of Kara now given that we now know that Nicole was mafia. And Kara’s parting (she thought) comment about us “needing” Grounders- it seems pretty clear she is one and that she’s pro- Town, from what I can see. Also, we obviously have confirmation that Mt. Weather is mafia and that the Ark is a faction but not necessarily the ONLY Town faction.

    I find Jenn’s death odd as well. Obviously there’s probably stuff going on behind the scenes, but she was pretty quiet- not super active- in Day One. Beth said

    I’d love to hear anyone else’s theories…at this point, I’m leaning toward Jenn’s death being more random than targeted.

    I’m wondering this myself…

  19. I just wanted to check in here before going to bed. I am so sorry I didn’t comment before. Today was a bit busy. Speaking of busy, the end of yesterDay was wild! I’m glad we know at least two groups for this round. There are so many options. I’m also not suspicious of Kara now so I’m glad she was able to be saved. I need to read over nicole’s comments.

    Also, I had a thought but I wonder if the game masters chose Jenn’s answer and that resulted in her death rather than a Mafia kill.

  20. @Beth – Just to clarify from your notes, I wasn’t the first one who pointed out Nicole’s odd vote for Kara. Kara and Harker questioned her about it first before I came in and voted for her because of it.

    I just looked back at Jenn’s comments and I don’t really find it odd that she was killed last Night? It looks like a fairly standard revenge kill by the Mafia to me, given she voted for Nicole. I find those speculating that it is odd/ might be due to the random boat thing from admins to be a bit suspect, because that doesn’t seem to be the most logical conclusion for me anyway.

    Perhaps if she was a Mafia kill, they want to throw shade on those who had it out for Jenn yesterDay, like Maria, Amber B and Anna.

    @Amber B – can you explain why you cancelled your vote for Kara (who was in the lead at 5 at that time) for Jenn a bit more? I’m really curious as to what made you more suspicious about Jenn (especially in comparison to Kara) to do so at the time.

  21. Thanks, Jeann! I found it:
    Kara was the first to question Nicole about it (on January 16, 2021 at 5:29 pm), and then Harker questions Nicole about it (on January 17, 2021 at 2:12 am) and then you’re the next to mention Nicole (on January 17, 2021 at 9:19 am) when you vote for her, and then Jenn votes for Nicole with the same reason (January 17, 2021 at 4:02 pm).

    As far as a “standard revenge kill”….why Jenn, though? If revenge is why they killed her, why not you, Kara, Harker, myself, Kerys, or Megan? Are you theorizing that they chose Jenn specifically, because she had 3 people voting for her? (you, myself, Megan, and Kerys had 0 votes and thus nobody to “throw shade on”, but Harker and Kara each had votes). Does that mean you’re thinking Jenn was a good middle-of-the-road choice, because she was unlikely to have been protected in the night and had marginally more votes than Harker, therefore marginally more players to throw shade on?
    (sorry if this is obvious…I got 5 hours of sleep last night and work keeps putting me in charge of things, so I’m feeling extra dense today).

  22. @Beth: I have a question about your comment from toDay:

    Given I think Jeann isn’t Mafia, I’m going to (for now) assume Jenn is also not Mafia. I’m still not sure if they’re on the same team, but either way I think it’s a safe bet it isn’t the same team Nicole was on.

    I’m confused because it sounds as though it were written under the assumption that Jenn were still alive and her alliance unknown, which was uncovered. Can you account for this? Is it to insinuate that you do not trust The Ark (Jenn’s revealed team) as a Town team?

  23. @Harker, Beth clarified in subsequent messages that she wrote that message out during N1 and didn’t want to amend it, so her statement for Jenn remained the same despite her being killed. She later analysed Jenn’s death in another message.

  24. Well done on the Mafia vote, everyone! I’m just popping in, I probably won’t have much of a chance to comment until tomorrow. Work is full of meetings and appraisals again this week. Just a couple of things I want to mention:

    The votes at the end of the Day were chaotic and I’m so glad Beth took the time to compile them because I was struggling to make sense of them myself. I’ll be keeping an eye toDay on the people who jumped in at the last minute to vote for Nicole because I agree, there is likely something there. Or it could just be complete confusion.

    @Megan

    We’re told that Nicole as a member of Mt Weather is Mafia but not that Jenn as Team The Ark is Town…. I’m thinking that’s more than one town group.

    I agree, I think there are multiple Town groups.

    Tbh I think there are 3 towns. The 100, now The Ark, and the Grounders. So are just trying to pick off Mt Weather and us being divided is further subterfuge?

    This is probably an important question. I personally think we should aim for the confirmed Mafia Mount Weather group at the moment, and think about the rest later. I’m glad we got a Mafia member out so early on so we have some stuff to work with right away.

    I mean, you also lost your Cop during the Night, so there’s that.

    The mods could be trying to confuse us but to me this sounds like Team Ark is Town. It also seems to suggest we ALL lost a Cop so it was a hit on the Town group as a whole. However, we know how sneaky the mods are so this is just taking it at face value, which is perhaps not the best idea in this game.

    @Jeann

    One thing that I do want to look at are:
    The people who were confused about what the Ark/100 team were called, because now it’s confirmed that it’s “The Ark” from Jenns night death.

    Not necessarily, it seems as though there’s both The Ark and The 100.

    Re. Jenn being killed off, I’m not sure if it was a strategic Mafia Kill or if they just went for someone who was a bit quiet. Maybe they knew we wouldn’t have much to go off if she died since she was absent for much of the Day? I’ll go back and look at Jenn’s comments later to see if anything pops out.

    @Amber B

    Also, I had a thought but I wonder if the game masters chose Jenn’s answer and that resulted in her death rather than a Mafia kill.

    Could be! I wonder if anyone has heard back about their answer to the Night Story yet or if it’s going to come into play later. Is this another button situation? I’m probably going to assume Jenn was killed by the Mafia OR by investigating someone to begin with though, as the Night Story could be completely random and I don’t want to analyse that right now.

    If revenge is why they killed her, why not you, Kara, Harker, myself, Kerys, or Megan? Are you theorizing that they chose Jenn specifically, because she had 3 people voting for her? (you, myself, Megan, and Kerys had 0 votes and thus nobody to “throw shade on”, but Harker and Kara each had votes).

    If it was a Mafia kill and they were going off votes like @Beth suggested above, I’m thinking they didn’t want to kill of Kara in the hopes that’d cause more confusion toDay and we’d spend a lot of time talking about her role again. Harker also said a lot more on Day 1 than Jenn did in regards to theorising, so maybe that will have given us more to work with toDay if they had been killed?

    Or, someone in that group mentioned above is Mafia. This isn’t a serious accusation, mind you, I’m just putting it out there that the reason that some of those people weren’t targeted may be because they’re Mafia too, and can’t/don’t want to kill themselves off.

  25. Here’s a list of Jenn’s comments, in case anyone finds them helpful for looking into why the Mafia may have killed her. I took out the personal message to Beth about her migraine to save space, it’s in the second comment if anyone really wants to see it!

    January 14, 2021 at 2:16 pm

    I’m a day late checking in D: I had a migraine and went to bed early last night.
    VOTE: ANNE, just because she is the comment before me

    January 14, 2021 at 9:08 pm

    Thanks guys! I am feeling better. I just spent a lot of time catching up.. lol. I’m in the atlantic time zone, so an hour ahead of EST. But I work from 8:30-4:30, so can’t really check in until after work or I get NOTHING done.. lol
    I’m going to
    CANCEL VOTE
    I have no reason to vote for Anne

    January 17, 2021 at 3:06 pm

    Okay, I’m here, sorry.. I will fully admit that I forgot. I tend to keep a tab open for the Games during the Day, buuuuut, my cat turned off my computer two days ago and I forgot to reopen it 😦

    As a result of that, there is sooo much to catch up on. I have read through most of the comments now, but just wanted to pop in because I am still here, just a bad player apparently. I’m going to look into the comments more now and see if there is anything that stands out at all.

    January 17, 2021 at 3:19 pm

    Based on Kara’s comments, I’m going to assume for now that she is a Grounder. Therefore, I won’t be voting for her until we know more about possible aligned factions. I am slightly wondering if maybe we’re all just in “town” teams and there isn’t really a “mafia” in the traditional sense. Obviously each faction believes they’re the good guys in the show, and are just trying to survive. I don’t know. Just a thought I had while reading through and watching people point out possible factions. Maybe it’s just our team that needs t survive and pick off everyone else.

    Though, if there is a team for the Mount Weather people, they are likely mafia. I just think that anything goes in these Games and never trust the Gamemasters not to have some weird twist up their sleeve.

    I’m going to be looking into the comments of those who are voting for Kara, because she has basically pointed herself out as a grounder, because that means those voting for her are NOT grounders.

    January 17, 2021 at 4:02 pm

    Okay, so after looking into it, I’m going to
    VOTE: NICOLE
    of the 3 voting for Kara currently, she is the one who sticks out to me the most. Because, as others have said, she said she thinks Kara is being genuine, but has also voted for her anyways.

    Greg is honestly not standing out to me as sus right now. From his comments, I’m assuming he is not a Grounder, but I do believe he may ne 100/Ark

    Meeghan I believe to be a possible Ark member, since she was one of the first to use it as a “sure thing”. I could be wrong, but I think maybe the Ark are good guys. Based of my limited information.

    I think we have reapers, but that they may ben 3rd party aligned. I don’t have any speculations as of yet about who may be a reaper.

    January 17, 2021 at 5:02 pm

    @Maria, I’m not stating it as a fact, I said that basically Kara has said she is a Grounder, so that the people voting for her are NOT grounders, because if the Grounders don’t know who each other are, and they are town and not mafia, why would they vote for each other on Day 1? Kara could not be a Grounder, but it still tells me that the other three are not Grounders

  26. @Megan Rose – Thanks for offering your explanation about your voting yesterDay, I thought what you said toDay about thinking “Kara was good pro-town” was interesting, because I felt like this kind of contradicts your thoughts from the previous Day – quoted below.

    Have to agree with Kerrie that I’m a little suspect of Kara at the moment. I could be reading into things too much, as I usually do, but she’s pointed the finger a lot already today.

    She immediately jumped on Amber G in her second comment of the day because of her simple first vote. Looking to just pounce on anyone perhaps? Could just be jesting, but also she was the first person to put the first serious vote on the board as well. Can’t say anything stuck out to me about Greg so was curious she chose him. Certainly after making some bold statements about group alliances when so many others were still questioning who could be pro/anti Town. I feel like she must know something we don’t (like she’s a Grounders and knows they’re pro town) or maybes over playing her hand by being too accusatory of someone she knows isn’t on her team. Not sure, something to think on…

    Then with 4 minutes to go, you said this about Kara:

    I will say I had decided not to vote for Kara, I wanted to let it play longer. She’s definitely made a bold move and at the moment it can still go either way, for the town or against it. But wanted to give the benefit of the doubt.

    What changed your thoughts about Kara after your comment earlier in the Day? You were obviously around 4 minutes to the clock, and you say “And it is always better for someone to go since then we have info to play with, even if they did end up being town.” Then why wait until the very last moment to make a move?

    Then you voted Nicole a minute before the Day ended. And then cancel voted to create a tie.

    Re your Nicole vote, you say this ” I didn’t want my name to be on the votes that got her out if it turned out she was good, seeing as I had no idea what made her sus to everyone in the first place.”

    But you just said that it’s better to vote for someone rather than voting for a Townie which you thought Kara was based on your hesitance to vote for her? Everyone in this game is going to get it wrong at some point because they don’t know who is on their team.

    So why bother placing a vote for Nicole then? To me it kind of looks like an effort to creating a tie to save her.

  27. Also Dana, I notice yesterDay you were barely very active at all, metnioning that it was really overwhelming catching up on all the comments.

    Can you tell us why you found Kara suspicious enough to vote for her towards the end of the Day, creating a tie?

    I’m placing my vote for this person because I feel like we can gain information on if their speculations were accurate when their role is revealed.

    And instead of sticking to Kara’s vote , you decided to vote for Nicole instead right on the dot of the Day close. Why did you decide to vote for Nicole instead, when your reasoning for Kara was sound?

    To me, this looks really suspicious because it looks like you wanted to be on the Nicole bandwagon when it knew that she was being voted out, to clear yourself of suspicion from the next Day (obviously if you knew she was a Mafia member).

  28. Amber G.

    1.

    Re. Jenn being killed off, I’m not sure if it was a strategic Mafia Kill or if they just went for someone who was a bit quiet. Maybe they knew we wouldn’t have much to go off if she died since she was absent for much of the Day? I’ll go back and look at Jenn’s comments later to see if anything pops out.

    2.

    If it was a Mafia kill and they were going off votes like @Beth suggested above, I’m thinking they didn’t want to kill of Kara in the hopes that’d cause more confusion toDay and we’d spend a lot of time talking about her role again. Harker also said a lot more on Day 1 than Jenn did in regards to theorising, so maybe that will have given us more to work with toDay if they had been killed?

    These are good points. I don’t remember a lot from when I was Team Marcella in BYOC2 but that kind of logic is sound because as you pointed out, which would give non-Mafia more to go on: someone who has commented more or less?

  29. Sorry for being so slow these two days; had to make presentation in 2-hour for a job interview and today I got headache;

    Some thoughts I want to write before I forgot (but maybe not really important haha)

    – According to Beth Jenn’s death could be one of the 3 reasons; mafia kill, night action, or random act (it could be since the BYOC2 that time Anne was killed when giving drink to shannon)

    – Megan mentioned that Jenn’s role revealed as the ark but not necessary town; implies could be more than 3 groups now (assuming that Kara’s Grounders is ‘real’)

    – My random thought would be if Jenn’s The Arc and Kara mentions as ‘Grounders as town’ and the fact that Jenn didn’t vote her, could imply that Grounders and The Arc are indeed ‘town’? Or that her role is to protect the grounders?
    It’s also weird to me that those who vote for Kara is non-grounders, she herself is non-grounders and vote for nicole? Although it’s for a good thing that she voted Nicole so we got off the mafia and determined Mount Weather is mafia!

    So my thought could be that:
    a) Despite that she’s non grounders she doesn’t vote for Kara, could it be The Ark role is to protect the grounders? (not sure if that is something with the series)
    b) or both of grounders and non-grounders are working together already?

    Question to Kara who claims herself as ‘Grounders’, you mentioned that “do not trust non-Grounders” ; and now with Jenn’s role reveal as The Ark and she doesn’t approach you ‘knowing’ that you’re Grounders, what are your thoughts about this?

  30. @Maria
    I hope the job interview went well! Good luck.

    So my thought could be that:
    a) Despite that she’s non grounders she doesn’t vote for Kara, could it be The Ark role is to protect the grounders? (not sure if that is something with the series)
    b) or both of grounders and non-grounders are working together already?

    Do you mean that a role from team Ark and a role from team Grounders might be in communication, or do you mean that there might be a Mason situation (where they have a private group Chat of their own)?

    I hadn’t considered that possibility, but it makes sense with the show plot. Thanks for bringing it up!

  31. @Jeann

    I had been mulling over in the back of my mind during the day that whilst what Kara did was bold, it didn’t necessarily mean mafia. I had decided to give her the benefit of the doubt and hope the night would reveal more for us to go on. She was giving us a lot more than other players so thought better off to keep her around to aid discussion.

    However, I didn’t really have any idea who else to vote for either. There was a lot of discussion and from what I had read, nobody else completely stood out either. I initially thought I’d come on in plenty of time to catch up and decide who to vote for then based on the new comments. But that obviously didn’t happen.

    I initially thought I’m just not going to vote since I didn’t have enough time to catch up and make an informed vote. And if I went for those already on the board then it would have only further dammed Kara which was unnecessary or created a tie which would give us nothing (I wasn’t counting the other votes as they wouldn’t have made any real difference).

    Then I saw Kerys had changed her vote for Kara creating a tie and in the spirit of getting someone out so we had something, and I had already decided to try and keep Kara around, I voted Nicole. Then I saw Dana had switched her vote to Nicole, showing she would be voted out and then I cancelled mine for the reasons I said before. I didn’t really know why there was suspicion her way and I didn’t want it to be interpreted as a bandwagon vote if it turned out she was town.

    It was a lot of thoughts running through my head and I seem to have acted on all of them making me go all over the place and just make myself look more suspicious. I shouldn’t have acted at all, I was very panicked in the final few minutes trying to catch up and knowing I couldn’t. Most of you all would work to not create a tie and I should have just left you all to it and explain the following day. But my panic just made me go all over the place and I can only explain and hope you all believe me. I know I just made myself look immensely suspicious, but too late now haha.

    I hope that clears things up! (:

  32. @Jeann I voted for Kara initially because I figured we could at least glean some information from her elimination. Was she telling the truth? Who cast doubt on her if she was telling the truth? I genuinely didn’t know it was going to tie. When I started the typing I think she was ahead by 1 or 2 votes. I figured I’d go with the flow and we’d learn the aforementioned. I didn’t immediately cancel and vote for Nicole upon learning I did tie it up until i refreshed a couple times to see if someone else would break it. Someone did. Then with such a short period to go, there was another tie and I’m not a believer in ties so I changed my vote to the other person so there wouldn’t be one, not seeing that Megan had also voted for Nicole.

    Ultimately, I’m relieved things happened as they did and we now know that there is a mafia and its Mt. Weather.

  33. Well, D2 is quite slow in comparison! I’m going to start combing through comments from D1 and D2 and come back with thoughts on specific players.

    I’d like to start with Dana, seeing as she is the most recent commenter before me.

    @Dana
    I am not quite sure I follow your reasoning as you have provided us very little to work with. On D1 you made a total of 8 comments, none of which included any arguments or explanation as to your thought process, other than your brief mention when voting for me that you hoped this would give more clarity as to my claims. Yet equally, you provided no explanation as to your vote for Nicole, other than that you had not noticed Megan’s vote and hoped to prevent a tie. Yet if we were to disregard Megan’s vote altogether, which by your own admission, you had not yet seen, then your abstinence from voting alone would have had sufficed to break the tie. There was no real reason to pile on and vote for Nicole in the last few seconds, even if we accept that you did not see her vote as true.

    So then I wonder, given that there is no clarity around your position and you have not expressed any thoughts in favour or against any of the players, whether it is more probable that you did indeed see Megan’s vote and thus saw Nicole’s fate as sealed, and chose to try and avert suspicion towards yourself by voting for who might actually be your fellow team mate?

    And should this not be so, which at this point only time and eliminations will tell, I would like to know whether now that you hopefully had the time to go through the comments of the previous day in a more relaxed manner, you might be able to share with us your thoughts, comments and suspicions on the remaining players.

  34. @Anna
    When you voted for Jenn you did so as she had not met the comment minimum yet and you said you wouldn’t be returning to the game before the end of day.

    How have the events followed impacted your assessments? You, too, have not expressed any strong opinions about where possible fellow players might stand or shared with us any suspicions.

  35. @Anne
    You are also a player that didn’t speculate much (or at all), though it has been mentioned that you tend to be of the more quiet playing style. Nevertheless, following thing you said raised some questions for me:

    I’m with Amber G, I don’t understand what Meeghan means by this:

    • the 100 = town 1
    • the ark = town 2

    Isn’t this one in the same? 🤔 Aren’t these the same people, how could it be two towns.

    and then in the same comment:

    One of the things that has stuck out was Kerri’s point about Harker. Not knowing the name of what to call the town makes me think they may be not on that team? Was that an earnest slip or something calculated?

    With our Gamemaster’s comment providing further credence to my claims from D1, i.e. that the Grounders are (pro)town
    (

    “well done to the *Town* for immediately eliminating a Mafia member on your first Day! Not bad, Town. Not bad. I mean, you also lost *your* Cop during the Night”

    )
    and the additional information we have gleaned from Jenn’s death, i.e. that a faction exists by the name of The Ark, I would like to inquire as to your belief that The Ark and The 100 are one and the same. Whilst proven correct in retrospect, at the time you made the comment, this was still up for debate. Yet you never specified which one of the two you believed to be the actual name of the town at the time. At the same time, it was the very basis for your vote for Harker (not knowing what the town was called), which surprised me at the time, seeing as based on your previous comment you were also in the dark.
    Furthermore, I still struggle to understand why at the time you chose to vote for Harker instead of Meeghan, who evidently also made claims/expressed theories you did not agree with?

  36. Sorry I wasn’t very active. When day 2 started, my boss told me he was closing the store. So I have been thinking about that all week.

    To more important issues….

    Near the end of day 1 Kara said that grounders are needed to win. That led me to believe that Kara is a grounder and possibly a pro town grounder. Most like this doesn’t make sense to anyone else. Best I got for game analysis. 😁

  37. @Maria

    In regards to:

    It’s also weird to me that those who vote for Kara is non-grounders, she herself [Jenn] is non-grounders and vote for nicole? Although it’s for a good thing that she voted Nicole so we got off the mafia and determined Mount Weather is mafia!

    I’m afraid I do not quite understand why you find this weird? It seems logical to me that Grounders would most likely not vote for other (supposed 😉) Grounders, so it is most logical that the ones voting for a (supposed) Grounder are not Grounders?
    This does not mean that only Grounders can vote for non-Grounders? Or that all non-Grounders are automatically anti-town? After all, there are also other Town factions.
    So, in essence, I am somewhat confused about the thing you are trying to question here. Could you elaborate?

    As to:

    you mentioned that “do not trust non-Grounders” ; and now with Jenn’s role reveal as The Ark and she doesn’t approach you ‘knowing’ that you’re Grounders, what are your thoughts about this?

    I believe that for the time being, and based on the limited information that we have, we must assume that all non-anti-town factions are working together (or at least should) as ONE town-faction, until proven otherwise. If needed, we can still battle it out amongst ourselves once the actual threats are gone. Though I still stand by my claim that the “town” *needs* the “Grounders” to win this game.

  38. @Kara

    The answer is that I knew one of those faction names and not the other. Jenn’s death did not prove that they are one in the same, but the opposite. It clarified for me, that there are at least two pro-town factions.

    I just came to check in — it has been a rough work week and I don’t have a lot of processing power in me. I’d like to read everything again later tonight or tomorrow and put a vote on the board.

  39. @Kara:

    With our Gamemaster’s comment providing further credence to my claims from D1, i.e. that the Grounders are (pro)town

    I understand why you’re standing by your claim, but what Inge/Shannon said didn’t say specifically that the Grounders were Town at all, just that the general Town lost their Cop. This might be me being particular about phraseology, so please forgive me if I’m getting too much so.

    It seems logical to me that Grounders would most likely not vote for other (supposed 😉) Grounders, so it is most logical that the ones voting for a (supposed) Grounder are not Grounders?

    If we’re going with your theory/assertion that Grounders are Town/pro-Town, this comment would be true but only if we’re to believe that Grounders know who each other are, something Town traditionally do not know (hence the difficulty in figuring out who to vote out).

    @Anna: I’m sorry you’re having a rough work week. Hopefully it will get better soon.

  40. I’ve gone back over Day One and have the following thoughts.

    *Nicole’s random first vote was for Anna. Always an easy way to try to disguise a teammate is to have your random first vote be for them. Knowing Nicole is mafia, could that mean anything? Probably not but I’m just trying to have thoughts.

    *Jeann was the first to vote for Nicole. Feel like it’s likely she’s not on the same team as her. Jenn was second, we know her to be town.
    -Of the people who voted for Nicole (assuming there’s a teammate on her vote since we know mafia members will throw a vote to a teammate in past games) I’m most sus of Kerys and Megan Rose.
    -Both Kerrie and Kerys switched their votes from Harker to Kara and Nicole respectively toward the end. Are they teammates of Harker’s? Kerys going to Nicole and tying it leaves me suspicious of her.
    -Megan Rose’s last minute vote for Nicole and then cancellation which would have left it tied leaves me suspicious of her. She has also continuously brought up gleaning and reapers. It has left me wondering if there really is something to it and she knows. She has stated that the 100 and Grounders are good and Mntn Men and Reapers are bad. No mention of The Ark so she likely isn’t a part of it.

    *Meeghan is town. She straight up said “Why wouldn’t The Ark be town?” So I’m leaning toward that.

    *Kara I’m slightly sus of. I still don’t fully understand her suspicions from yesterDay of Greg, Anna and Beth. Yet, says the Grounders are Pro-Town, not straight up Town. I’m a little confused by the possibilities of that.

    @Kara Now that it’s official that The Ark is at least A town, do you still feel the same way towards those who were questioning The Grounders being Town?

    I hope maybe an inkling of that made any sense. I truly am the worst at speculating and expressing my thoughts on the game.

  41. @Dana
    I made sure to continuously say that Grounders are (pro) town, as it might be my belief that they are The town as I have stated, yet I had no proof of them being the Only town and it was very likely that there were more town aligned factions (as was proven by Jenn’s death). Whether they are all one town or multiple towns is left to be seen, but at the very least I know Grounders to be one of the towns and thus (pro) town.

    And of course I am still suspicious of people questioning Grounders to be town. At the moment, though, I find it more likely for anti-town players to be hiding amongst the people that have been laying low and are continuing to do so. In truth, a smart anti-town-player might see that questioning someone who claims to be (pro) town so vocally would raise questions against them upon the death of that player when their alliance is uncovered, and so choose to lay low. And if one does not make strong statements one way or another, it will be hard to argue against said player. So assuming the town’s opponents to be of the wicked kind (as it would be wrong not to 😉) all leads and lack of them must be followed.

    As to my choice to temporarily put aside my suspicions for Greg, Beth or Anna, I explained in my later comments on D1 that I found certain other people more suspicious – and turned out to be correct at the end of the day by being the third person to vote for Nicole. Furthermore, my initial analysis was more to the point of who might be a Grounder (and thus presumably good in my eyes) or might not be a Grounder (and thus might be good or evil) – which is the point at which that suspicion was raised and was to serve as food for thought and to get the discussion moving. Much happened since.

    That being said, I feel like you are evading the points made against you and trying to stir up more suspicion against me. Whilst it would be foolish of me to assume my position to be safe or secured, or to expect anyone to feel assured of my alliance based on my claims and the revelation by way of Jenn’s death, I do believe that there are much bigger fish left to fry…

  42. I might add that I am working on analyses of everyone else’s comments, but there are only so many hours in a day. 😉

  43. @Siran

    You are also one of the players that hasn’t really given us much to work with. You stated that just as you can see Murphy as not being town aligned, you can picture Lincoln being town. But you haven’t given us any more than that. What are your thoughts on all the suspicions raised?

  44. @Shannon
    At the end of the day, what was your reason for voting Dana after all? You stated your D1 vote would most likely be random, but by the end of the day there were plenty of other speculations and theories. Your strongest statement was that Mount Weather would definitely be the bad guys and alluded to the fact that you could see Reapers also being a possible factor to consider. Yet both your comments mentioning this were early on in the game (comments no. 49 and 111 out of 273) and you never followed up on any of the related theories.

  45. I wasn’t very analytical either the last two times I played. So far who/what I commented on is all I got.

  46. @Dana – Thanks for your clarification. I don’t really follow your reasoning for why you vote switched to someone who you didn’t find suspicious at all during the end of the Day, from someone who you had – and still have – suspicions of.

    You just said you are slightly sus of Kara still. Then why didn’t you keep your vote for her towards the end of the Day and vote switched to Nicole instead?

    I know in hindsight it’s easy to say that was the right move, because Nicole turned out to be Mt Weather, but if you were on her team that would be an easy way to blend in with the team who eliminated a Mafia member.

  47. @Jeann I voted for Nicole purely so there wouldn’t be a tie. If I had kept my vote for Kara there wouldn’t have been an elimination.

  48. @Dana
    But you could have prevented a tie by just cancelling your vote or voting for someone other than Nicole. So why go after Nicole after all when you had no suspicions at all about her?

  49. @Kara Because my mind didnt work that way at that second. It was between Nicole and you and if I stayed voting for you it would have been a tie. My mind went straight to “If not Kara then must vote for Nicole”. Not voting isn’t something I believe in and I wasn’t actually suspicious of anyone.

  50. @Kara

    Meeghan and Harker were not saying the same thing. Meeghan said there were two towns (The 100/The Ark), which has now been confirmed.

    Harker was saying they didn’t know what the town was called, thereby I assumed they were not one of The 100 (or The Ark, though at the time I didn’t know The Ark was a thing. Jenn’s death confirms.)

  51. @Anne: that wasn’t what I said. What I was asking was what they were called in-universe (not in-game or referring to in-game alliances) because I haven’t seen the show and the last time I read book one was 2015/2016.

  52. Hey everyone, sorry for the late start in signing in to Day 2! Work has been insane but I should definitely have time to contribute this weekend. Glad to see we got rid of a Mount Weather Mafia character! Sad and confused to see us lose a pro-town Ark character in Jenn overnight though. I’m curious if it was a Mafia kill or a night game result as many have questioned.

    I have been reading through the comments from toDay and want to address Kara’s question to me before I lose track of it all and finalizing my thoughts from the end of Day 1 and making my post of my suspicions.

    @Kara As I stated in a later comment, my reason for keeping my random vote is basically because I have done that in the prior two games I played because there is usually not much to go on in Day 1. I wasn’t overly suspicious of anyone as of Saturday, the next to last Day of Day 1, and when I checked in on Sunday things were completely blowing up way too quickly and way too close to the deadline to keep up. I didn’t want to make any choices willy-nilly or end up in the situation that Megan ended up in.

    That’s all for now, going back to look at my notes from all the craziness at the end of Day 1 and re-read toDay’s comments to make a longer post later tonight.

  53. Looking back on Day 1 and the thing that sticks out to me most is that a lot of Greg’s comments seem to be trying to pit Grounders vs. the 100. In further posts he lists

    “So maybe that goes towards answering my first question above? I guess I’m wondering- if there are potentially two Towns, maybe it doesn’t matter if we keep going around and around about whether the 100 or Grounders (or others) are Town or not. Although it’s natural to speculate I suppose. There are 19 players, and as several people have pointed out there are all manner of possible factions from the show. The 100, the Ark (if they’re separate), the Grounders, mountain men, City of Light? Others I’m probably missing.”

    (sorry, I don’t know how to do the fancy quote-thing everyone does.)

    @ Greg I’m curious – Is there a reason you don’t list the group as “Mount Weather” as everyone else has? Or secondly, why “mountain men” are in all lowercase when every other faction is capitalized??

    I may be reading way too far into this but it seems like you are doing everything you can to take minimize Mount Weather and take attention away from that group. Coupled with earlier comments in the Day where you were strongly trying to pit the Grounders vs. the 100 it just stands out as suspicious to me.

    Then in your next two comments you continue to harp on the fact that a lot of the discussion has been over whether Grounders are pro or anti-town and even say

    “. I’ve been scouring through the comments looking for hints but we’ve been talking mostly about Grounders and whether they’re Town- the focus on that has seemed odd to me- but I don’t have much else?”

    You seemed to be the one bringing the discussion back to that topic the most and it makes me very curious as to why. Again, I may be reading way too far into things but it makes me wonder if you are a part of Mount Weather?

  54. Not sure why my first comment from about an hour ago didn’t post but, here it is again…

    Hey everyone, sorry for the late start in signing in to Day 2! Work has been insane but I should definitely have time to contribute this weekend. Glad to see we got rid of a Mount Weather Mafia character! Sad and confused to see us lose a pro-town Ark character in Jenn overnight though. I’m curious if it was a Mafia kill or a night game result as many have questioned.

    I have been reading through the comments from toDay and want to address Kara’s question to me before I lose track of it all and finalizing my thoughts from the end of Day 1 and making my post of my suspicions.

    @Kara As I stated in a later comment, my reason for keeping my random vote is basically because I have done that in the prior two games I played because there is usually not much to go on in Day 1. I wasn’t overly suspicious of anyone as of Saturday, the next to last Day of Day 1, and when I checked in on Sunday things were completely blowing up way too quickly and way too close to the deadline to keep up. I didn’t want to make any choices willy-nilly or end up in the situation that Megan ended up in.

    That’s all for now, going back to look at my notes from all the craziness at the end of Day 1 and re-read toDay’s comments to make a longer post later tonight.

  55. @Shannon- to try and answer your questions- the first one I honestly was just spitballing and speculating- musing about we had 19 players and so many possible factions they could be split between. I mean you can only take my word for it, of course, but that’s all that was.

    As far as “mountain men” not being capitalized- no lol there was no reason for that! I had actually forgotten the Mt. Weather faction was called that by the Grounders in the show until I saw someone else (I think?) mention mountain men- I should go back and look but I’m too lazy- but that’s all that was. I didn’t capitalize them because “mountain men” doesn’t really seem like an official faction name to me, like Mt. Weather does or the Ark, say. Probably not helpful in allaying suspicion, but that’s all I have. 🙂

    I may be reading way too far into this but it seems like you are doing everything you can to take minimize Mount Weather and take attention away from that group

    Really? I’ll have to go back and look at my comments I guess and see what you mean by that. I’m not sure I’ve mentioned Mt. Weather that much at all? Let alone doing everything I can to minimize it? I mean, I mentioned Mt. Weather in my very first comment, I mentioned acid fog (in response to you) and noted the Mt. Weather storyline was gruesome on 1/14 at 8:13pm, otherwise… yeah I haven’t speculated much. I don’t really think anyone else did that much either? Not sure if that qualifies as me minimizing Mt. Weather???

    I’m sorry I haven’t been active much or analyzing, the last couple days have been hectic. I’m catching up on comments now and trying to formulate my thoughts, but I had a lot more time earlier in the week. Hopefully this weekend I’ll have more to add.

  56. Sorry I haven’t checked in sooner. I got distracted and forgot D2 had started.

    I’m glad we got a mafia member out with Nicole. It was a surprising outcome because when I had signed out for the night I’m pretty sure there was only 1 vote on her at the time.

    I’m sorry we lost Jenn.

    I’m going to go over toDays comments and come back and comment.

  57. @Beth: Thank you! The interview is for practise, but if they offer a better opportunity then why not! hehe

    @Kara:

    I’m afraid I do not quite understand why you find this weird? It seems logical to me that Grounders would most likely not vote for other (supposed 😉) Grounders, so it is most logical that the ones voting for a (supposed) Grounder are not Grounders?
    This does not mean that only Grounders can vote for non-Grounders? Or that all non-Grounders are automatically anti-town? After all, there are also other Town factions.
    So, in essence, I am somewhat confused about the thing you are trying to question here. Could you elaborate?

    Okay, I just reread again my comment and skim the Day 1 comment, I might have confuse myself as apparently that what you mention is ‘Grounders is Pro-town’ which may be known to you because of your role or something else entirely. Which then it can also imply you’re not grounders? cause you only mention that grounders are pro-town and not that you’re town (Although given the game, nobody will just trust everything face value).

    My first thought when I wrote that comment was on the assumption that you (Kara) is a ‘Grounders’ and with Jenn is ‘The Ark’ why won’t she vote for you, who’s exactly in a different team? (Unless both you and Jenn are actually the same team…?) Especially when you said about not to trust ‘non-grounders’;

    Given now that Jenn was revealed as The Ark, and not to trust non-grounders, but at the same time the mods kinda imply that the town lost a cop, so The Ark could be either pro-town or town itself?

    I am more eery with the mods comment with something else at play. Could it be the third party group….

    ————
    TLDR; basically cmiiw that kara actually just refer as grounders as pro town and not that her role is grounders?

    Also, will reread other comments again; before EOD

    I think that Day 2 quite slow somehow…?

  58. I’m going to place a vote now so I don’t forget to — weekends are busy for me because I have a two year old. No resting! Only play!

    I’m really interested in the voting breakdown from end of Day One. Since Beth recapped that earlier today (ty for that I have no brainspace for that kind of analysis right now!), I’m going to reference that here:

    In terms of the votes for Nicole, and the timing of them:
    – At -15 min, the top votes were Kara (4), Jenn/Harker/Nicole (3).
    – At -10 min, Harker switched their vote to Nicole, tying it between Kara and Nicole (4). They reasoned Kara’s boldness might be from a role whose win condition could be Jester, or because it’s a trap, so although they provided logic for why Nicole, as opposed to the other viable option of Jenn, it seems largely based on not voting off Kara.
    – Right after this, I changed my vote to Nicole to break the tie. Votes now Nicole (5) and Kara (4).
    – At -8 min, Dana voted for Kara, tying it again (at 5 each). The reason given for the vote was that we can gain more information on the accuracy of their claims after their role is revealed.
    – At -5 min, Kerrie changed her vote to Kara to break the tie. Votes now Kara (6) and Nicole (5).
    – At -1 min, Kara posted her farewell message, warning us that we “need Grounders to win” and to “do not trust non-Grounders”.
    – Right after this, Kerys changed her vote to Nicole to cause a tie (reason TBD), at 6 votes each.
    – Right after this, Megan voted for Nicole, breaking the tie Kerys caused. The reason given was she thinks we need Kara (presumably based on Kara’s farewell post). Votes now Nicole (7), Kara (6).
    – At -0 min, Dana changed her vote to Nicole (reason TBD). Votes now Nicole (8), Kara (6).
    – At -0 min, Megan cancelled her vote (reason TBD). Votes now Nicole (7), Kara (6).

    After reading responses from Dana and Megan Rose, those players are the most suspicious to me at the moment.

    Dana says she is still suspicious of Kara, but didn’t end up keeping that vote yesterDay. She caused a tie by voting for Kara, then last minute switched to Nicole when she was already leading in votes. A lot of timing could be at play here, but it seems like Dana was protecting Nicole at first with the tie, then switched at the last minute to bandwagon since Nicole would be revealed as mafia? If today she still is suspicious of Kara, then all the switchery is extra confusing.

    Megan Rose cancelled her vote for Nicole at the last moment after Dana placed a vote for Nicole. She said today it was all in self-preservation, but I don’t understand that logic. The end of day seemed confusing, but as Jeann pointed out above (https://thebookishgames.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/the-100-day-two/#comment-79110), what Megan Rose has said about Kara’s being pro-town or not between Days 1&2 are kind of contradictory, as well as a comment Megan Rose made about the importance of having a vote:
    “And it is always better for someone to go since then we have info to play with, even if they did end up being town.”

    Cancelling your vote in self-preservation does not line up with the statement above. At least for me.

    For now I’m going to

    VOTE: DANA

    I’ll try to check back in today and tomorrow, though Day Close is always going to be difficult for me since it coincides with the start of kiddo’s nap time. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    I know a lot of this has been explained by EOD timing, but there’s no way to know if that’s real or just an excuse.

  59. There’s been such low engagement D2 I’m starting to think it has something to do with that night action form 😂

  60. Man, I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s been distracted these last few days! What a difference to D1!

    So, here’s my thoughts thus far. I don’t really know what to make of Jenn’s death, so I’m going to focus on the end of day votes. I’m not feeling great today, so if I ask a question that has already been answered please feel free to point me at the relevant comment.

    I know Beth made this list already, but i’m including a simplified version here for reference as I go through my thoughts:
    Jenn, Jeann, Kara voted for Nicole early (around or before last hour)
    Harker votes nicole out of self-preservation, causing a tie
    Beth votes Nicole to break the tie
    Dana votes Kara, causing a tie
    I cancel/ change to Kara to break tie
    Kerys votes Nicole, causes tie
    Megan Rose votes Nicole, solidifying Nicole elimination
    Dana cancels/ changes to Nicole
    Megan cancels vote

    @Harker, I don’t think I’ve seen anyone ask this already, but If they have I apologize for being redundant and you are welcome to point me towards the comment, but why did you cause the tie in the first place? You changed your vote out of self-preservation, but if that was the only motive, why not vote for Kara? It would have made a clear majority, thus protecting you.

    Dana ties it, & has explained,

    I voted for Kara initially because I figured we could at least glean some information from her elimination.[ …] there was another tie and I’m not a believer in ties so I changed my vote to the other person so there wouldn’t be one

    @Dana, you’ve explained why you changed from Kara to Nicole, but why re-tie it in the first place after Beth gave Nicole a majority of votes, especially if you don’t like ties? (i’m referring to your vote at 6:52 for Kara) There were a couple minutes between Beth’s vote for Nicole and your vote to re-tie the game, as well as a voting update, so I’m inclined to believe you had plenty of time too see Beth’s updated vote.

  61. I hope you feel better soon, Kerrie!

    We’ve looked at those who vote-switched, as potential bandwagoning by Mafia once Nicole’s fate was sealed, but I wanted to take a minute to look at people who voted for someone *other* than Kara or Nicole.

    While you certainly don’t have to vote one of the top players on the leaderboard by the end of the day, voting for someone not close to elimination means you aren’t helping Town get more information one way or another. So it’s an “easy” way to fly under the radar, while everyone else focuses on those in the spotlight (both during EOD and the next day).
    It also indicates that the voter must have a strong conviction or suspicion of the one they voted for. So I’d like to hear from the people who stuck with their vote for someone unlikely to be voted out by EOD1.

    @Shannon, you voted for Dana, reason given as:

    I am not suspicious of Dana at all, it was my initial vote solely because she had voted for me. She has since canceled it but I haven’t, mainly because in the first two games I played I left Day 1 vote as random. Granted there is a LOT more discussion and analysis in this game’s Day 1 than those two games but… I’m still on the fence on who to vote for based on it. I’ll likely read through everything one more time before the Day ends and may change my vote, but I’m not sure.

    Given all the discussion and vote chaos during D1, who are you currently suspicious of?

    @Maria, you voted for Jenn, reason given as:

    True that Kara might point out that she ‘may be’ a Grounder, but it’s not necessary a ‘Fact’.
Plus those who vote for her as NOT grounders are also another speculations.
I just don’t think just because someone vote for someone doesn’t meant they are not in the same alliance in a way. Because after all we don’t know anyone’s role yet so it’s better to be wary of everyone?
    I want to vote for Kara but due to some of my thoughts before (that she might be a vengeful); and the fact I feel better to vote.

    That’s a reason to *not* vote Kara (because she might be Vengeful), but why did you specifically choose to vote for Jenn? And why did you keep your vote for Jenn even after it was clear that Kara was in the vote lead?

    @Anna, you voted for Jenn, reason given as:

    Mostly picking her because she hasn’t met the comment minimum as of yet. I would prefer to vote than not to and because I don’t really have any strong suspicions at the moment it just feels like the best decision from me for now. Sorry Jenn.
    I won’t make it back before the end of the Day either so good luck everyone.

    Given all the discussion and vote chaos during D1, who are you currently suspicious of?

    @Amber B, at -44 min you voted for Jenn, reason given as:

    She’s been under the radar and the comment about forgetting about the game due to her cat seems so weird to me right now.

    Up until then, you’d been voting for Kara because:

    I don’t know what I think of Kara and I think it’s good to know someone’s alliances with someone being voted off.

    Given all the discussion and vote chaos during D1, who are you currently suspicious of?

    Additionally:
    @Kerys, you voted Harker, reason given as:

    So everyone that doesn’t know what to refer to the town as is not town (this was before I realised there may be two towns which kind of complicates things. but even if there are two town teams, I would have thought that most people would assume that they were the only town and referred to themselves as such)

    I see a few people keep pinging off this, so I went digging for the statement Harker made that’s got suspicion about them not knowing the name of all of the Town factions. And the only thing I found was Harker’s statement to Kara on https://thebookishgames.wordpress.com/2021/01/13/the-100-day-one/#comment-78862

    Your focus seems to be centered on the Grounders, so whatever information you have, your facts as you refer to them, I assume relay back to them. Do you have thoughts regarding the Ark kids? (Is that what they’re called in-universe? Or is it The 100 that refers to the kids that are dropped from space?)

    It seems the first person to refer to Town as “100/Ark” was Greg, not Harker, on https://thebookishgames.wordpress.com/2021/01/13/the-100-day-one/#comment-78905
    Are you still suspicious of Harker? Is there a reason you *aren’t* suspicious of Greg?

    TL;DR
    I’m mildly suspicious of people who didn’t have a given reason for, or any suspicions toward, the person they kept/cast their D1 vote for as I suspect at least one of them is Mafia flying under the radar.
    That’s Shannon, Maria, and Anna.
    (I recognize that sometimes life stuff means you can’t make it back to vote before the end of the day, so I apologize if this sounds like me criticizing your life schedule)

    Also, apologies for the fact that I cannot post my thoughts without turning it into a novel, apparently. 😀

  62. @kerrie I had my cat on my chest and typing is difficult when the cat’s there. It really took me over 20 minutes to string along my short post, I did not refresh to check if there were updates. I didnt even realize at the time that there were less than 10 minutes left. I just wrote my post and then I saw everything I had missed and scrambles to get caught up.

  63. Ok, finally at my laptop and able to open all the tabs I like. 😂 It’s harder to play this game on your mobile when you want to keep referring back to multiple tabs for information.

    @Megan:

    We’re told that Nicole as a member of Mt Weather is Mafia but not that Jenn as Team The Ark is Town.

    Between the Mods saying the Town lost their Cop and the fact that Jenn’s Role was revealed as a Cop, I think we can safely assume that The Ark is at least a Town group because the Cop is a Pro-Town aligned Role (https://thebookishgames.wordpress.com/the-roles/cop/). Is there a reason that you change your mind between not thinking that Jenn as Team The Ark is Town in the beginning of this comment to thinking there are three Town groups at the end (Ark, 100, Grounders)?

    Then I saw Kerys had changed her vote for Kara creating a tie and in the spirit of getting someone out so we had something, and I had already decided to try and keep Kara around, I voted Nicole. Then I saw Dana had switched her vote to Nicole, showing she would be voted out and then I cancelled mine for the reasons I said before. I didn’t really know why there was suspicion her way and I didn’t want it to be interpreted as a bandwagon vote if it turned out she was town.

    I realize that things were going quickly so forgive me if you’re unable to answer another question about EOD, but amidst the panic, regarding this scenario: what did you think would happen? At the time that you were set to cancel your vote as outline in the comment above, cancelling yours wouldn’t have done anything. Nicole had a majority (before Dana changed it 7-6 Nicole/Kara, after but before Megan’s cancellation 8-5 Nicole/Kara); cancelling yours doesn’t seem to do much other than get you off the bandwagon, as it were.

    @Beth:

    Given that Nicole never recants this suspicion about Kara, I think Kara is, at the very least, not Mount Weather/Mafia.
    (to clarify, Nicole states “At this point I am slightly suspicious of Kara but do think she is being genuine” and then votes for Kara anyway)

    I wonder now, in hindsight, if the situation with Nicole saying this and casting the vote that contradicted it might have been a slip and Nicole was unable to either a) come back or b) come back/come up with a way to spin it because it was, as we see, pretty damning.

    – NOTE: Dana’s vote for Kara tied it and thus protected Nicole, but then at the actual last minute, she switched her vote to Nicole (possibly due to Kara’s farewell message, or possibly she didn’t see Megan’s last-minute vote and thought there was still a tie). Either way, it doomed Nicole.

    @Beth: first, thank you for the play by play of the EOD votes. I’ve been reading it because it helps narrow things down rather than the deluge of comments. 😆 Second, I have a question about this comment. Are you insinuating that Dana’s vote for Kara that tied things up at 6:52PM was the starting event that caused the vote changes leading to Nicole’s being vote for? Because it wasn’t her vote that was the deciding vote that really sealed Nicole, so I suppose what I’m trying to do is clarify this bit (“either way, it doomed Nicole.”).

    – Right after this, Kerys changed her vote to Nicole to cause a tie (reason TBD), at 6 votes each.
    – Right after this, Megan voted for Nicole, breaking the tie Kerys caused. The reason given was she thinks we need Kara (presumably based on Kara’s farewell post). Votes now Nicole (7), Kara (6).
    – At -0 min, Dana changed her vote to Nicole (reason TBD). Votes now Nicole (8), Kara (6).
    – At -0 min, Megan cancelled her vote (reason TBD). Votes now Nicole (7), Kara (6).

    Just to clarify what I mean, because it may come up, I think first that the number is off from your note in Dana’s last vote. The tally should have been Nicole (8), Kara (5). So, Megan in the vote previous had broken the tie and pushed Nicole to (7), Kara (6). Dana switching did give Nicole an extra vote but she could hardly have voted Kara more to protect Nicole, though she could have voted elsewhere? 🤔 I’m coming at this from wondering about your doom comment at the moment, so pardon if I’m missing something.

    @Jeann:

    Then you voted Nicole a minute before the Day ended. And then cancel voted to create a tie.

    Which tie are you referring to of Megan’s? Looking at the EOD, I can’t see where she created a tie, only broke the one that Kerys had created.

    @Dana:

    Megan Rose’s last minute vote for Nicole and then cancellation which would have left it tied leaves me suspicious of her.

    Not to say that I’m not wondering about Megan Rose for other reasons, but her vote at the end (voting for Nicole/cancelling) wouldn’t have left it tied so bringing this up is kind of interesting. If Megan had left her final vote, it would have been 8-5 to Nicole. The only other vote Megan made yesterDay was her first for Meeghan.

    @Jeann I voted for Nicole purely so there wouldn’t be a tie. If I had kept my vote for Kara there wouldn’t have been an elimination.

    That’s a big assumption. Granted that Kerrie seems to have acted based on the tie from your Kara vote at 6:52PM, but to say that there would have been no more votes in that span of time seems a bit presumptive.

    @Kerrie:

    @Harker, I don’t think I’ve seen anyone ask this already, but If they have I apologize for being redundant and you are welcome to point me towards the comment, but why did you cause the tie in the first place? You changed your vote out of self-preservation, but if that was the only motive, why not vote for Kara? It would have made a clear majority, thus protecting you.

    Yes, I did yesterDay in my vote for Nicole at 6:47 PM.

    I don’t understand her contradictory vote. Of the high votes persons, I don’t see Jenn in any particular light at the moment (say vs. Nicole). Kara I’m wary of because her boldness. I’ve said it somewhere toDay that it’s unusual so far as I can remember to be so on D1, which makes me think there is a reason. What that is, I don’t know. Could be a Jester type situation which I don’t think is inherently dangerous to anyone other than it means she would win her condition. Could be some kind of trap (always expect a trap 😂).

    @Kara:

    The pace of D1 may have been some overexcitement to be back in the Games. 😂 I’m sure it’ll pick up on the weekends when people have more time.

  64. @Harker I guess I’m being presumptive based on the votes that did occur. Sure someone else could have changed but they didn’t.

  65. @Harker

    Are you insinuating that Dana’s vote for Kara that tied things up at 6:52PM was the starting event that caused the vote changes leading to Nicole’s being vote for? Because it wasn’t her vote that was the deciding vote that really sealed Nicole, so I suppose what I’m trying to do is clarify this bit (“either way, it doomed Nicole.”).

    It “doomed Nicole” because the more votes piled onto a person, the less likely their teammate can swoop in at the last minute and save them by causing a tie.
    If you’re ahead by 1 vote, it only takes 1 person voting someone else to save you. If you’re ahead by 2 votes, it takes more action than that to save you. If you’re ahead by 3 votes, it takes even *more* action to save you.
    And the closer we are to the end of the day, the harder it would be for those additional actions to occur before time runs out.
    Dana’s vote for Nicole put Nicole in the lead by 2 votes, at 0 minutes to go- literally no time to save Nicole, even with Megan’s cancelling of her vote.
    Does that make sense?

    I don’t know if this makes it easier to see, but here we go.
    When Dana voted for Kara, it caused the tally to be:
    Kara (5)- Nicole, Greg, Amber G., Meeghan, Dana
    Dana (1) — Shannon
    Jenn (3)- Maria, Anna, Amber B.
    Harker (3) — Kerrie, Kerys, Anne
    Nicole (5)- Jenn, Jeann, Kara, Harker, Beth
    Thus tying Nicole and Kara.
    Then Kerrie voted Kara, making it Kara (6), Nicole (5), Jenn (3), Harker (2), Dana (1).
    Then Kerys voted Nicole, making it Kara (6), Nicole (6), Jenn (3), Harker (1), Dana (1).
    Then Megan voted Nicole, making it Kara (6), Nicole (7), Jenn (3), Harker (1), Dana (1).
    Then Dana switched her vote to Nicole, making it Kara (5), Nicole (8), Jenn (3), Harker (1), Dana (1).

  66. So I guess to further explain why I said that at all: I was talking about people whose last-minute votes may point toward protecting a teammate. And it seemed noteworthy to point out that Dana’s vote for Kara protected Nicole by causing a tie and that her vote switch at -0 min ensured Nicole couldn’t be protected by anyone else’s last-minute vote action.

  67. @Harker, ah I see it now, thank you

    @Beth thank you 🙂

    @Siran, I know you tend to be quieter player, but I was wondering, is there a reason you hadn’t cast a vote for anyone by the end of day 1?

  68. Voting Update:
    Dana (1) — Anne

    Not voting: Harker, Jeann, Beth, Amber B, Meeghan, Siran, Greg, Shannon W, Dana, Megan, Maria, Anna, Amber G, Kerrie, Kara, Kerys

    Haven’t met comment minimum: Amber B (1), Meeghan (0), Siran (3), Greg (2), Shannon W (3), Maria (3), Anna (1), Amber G (2), Kerys (1)

    Just over 22 hours left!

  69. I had only voted initially for the sake of following the rules. I was hoping to read something that would make me suspicious of any player. When I didn’t really happen, I thought it unfair for me to vote for anyone.

  70. @Beth

    I have still been behind in comments toDay but given D1, I’m semi suspect of the Kara voters but also kind of not given I’m not sure what my thoughts on her are. I feel like the statement of “Do not trust Non-Grounders” is extreme as there are multiple factions in the show that are displayed to be “good guys”.

    I’m going to re-read and try to comment more later.

  71. @Beth: I didn’t see your comment just now it’s so weird

    I just find that statement of Jenn is quite irk me that time. I mean we don’t know each other’s role (except our own) and despite it maybe true that it’s weird to vote if you’re in the same team. But again we don’t know each other’s role and Kara is quick to put herself in spotlight. So there could be many things going on, plus the calculated risks she mentioned made me bit worried.

    That’s why despite Kara was on the lead that time; I decided to take back and see what could happen

    Was about to join the last minute voting but ended up reading webtoons and when I finished it’s already done 😅😂🙈 (plus it’s like 2am here so…)

  72. @Amber YA (how did I call you again? Sorry 🙈) I’m on my mobile right now:

    What I read again from D1 (cmiiw) that Kara only mentioned that “Grounders might be pro town” or that the town need grounders. And not really saying she’s a grounder? (Or maybe she is? Can someone help?) 😂

    Yeah I also find the Do not trust Non-Grounders statement is quite blunt and extreme

    Cause like Jenn is cop apparently and she’s The Ark. If we can’t trust non-grounders then, could it be that the cop role from Jenn is a disguise? That she’s (Jenn) actually something else??? Maybe??

  73. I’ve finally had the time to read through all the comments and try to figure out the voting chaos from Day 1. Thanks again to Beth for summarising it for me because it made my head hurt.

    When Dana voted for Kara, it caused the tally to be:
    Kara (5)- Nicole, Greg, Amber G., Meeghan, Dana
    Dana (1) — Shannon
    Jenn (3)- Maria, Anna, Amber B.
    Harker (3) — Kerrie, Kerys, Anne
    Nicole (5)- Jenn, Jeann, Kara, Harker, Beth
    Thus tying Nicole and Kara.
    Then Kerrie voted Kara, making it Kara (6), Nicole (5), Jenn (3), Harker (2), Dana (1).
    Then Kerys voted Nicole, making it Kara (6), Nicole (6), Jenn (3), Harker (1), Dana (1).
    Then Megan voted Nicole, making it Kara (6), Nicole (7), Jenn (3), Harker (1), Dana (1).
    Then Dana switched her vote to Nicole, making it Kara (5), Nicole (8), Jenn (3), Harker (1), Dana (1).

    Re. Dana, I agree the voting to create a tie and then suddenly switching at the end it sus to me. Her cat could have been sabotaging her comment, but in this game I don’t think we can take that at face value. I do appreciate that Dana has been more active toDay though and is trying to defend her voting choices and offer explanations.

    It’s interesting that people are so quiet toDay compared to yesterDay, but I am admittedly one of those people so I probably shouldn’t scrutinise that too harshly. People could be busy, however the Mafia could be rattled that we voted one of them out and are now lying low so we don’t start to analyse their comments?

    I was actually typing out a list when I got the tweet and refreshed and saw that Inge had listed the quiet players for us.

    Amber B (1), Meeghan (0), Siran (3), Greg (2), Shannon W (3), Maria (3), Anna (1), Amber G (2), Kerys (1)

    Left myself in there for transparency.

    I really don’t feel like I’m adding anything of value here, as the Dana/Megan voting has been discussed by people who are much more with it this week than I have been.

    Dana’s comment stood out to me:

    *Nicole’s random first vote was for Anna. Always an easy way to try to disguise a teammate is to have your random first vote be for them. Knowing Nicole is mafia, could that mean anything? Probably not but I’m just trying to have thoughts.

    So I went back to look at Nicole’s comments. She didn’t give us much to go off, but here she mentioned to Dana “I’m with you”, and also questioned Kara about Greg. Is there something there?

    @Dana I’m with you. All these speculations are over my head and a bit worrisome. It sounds like there are a lot of factions in the 100 that I did not pick up on in the first few episodes.

    @Kara I’m also interested to hear your suspicions of Greg and others (?). I’m not suspicious of anyone yet this early in the game.

    The “I’m with you.” stood out to me because she said in a later comment

    I’m trying to watch out for people accidentally giving away important information unintentionally. Like when a player ( I think maybe Edward?) referred to the cultafia during ADSOM before it was common knowledge that there was a cultafia, but no one noticed.

    And then she mentioned Greg a second time

    I’m always suspicious of Greg whenever we play in the same game together, so I don’t know whether to trust that or not.

    Was she trying to distance herself from Greg? Or was she trying to get more information from Kara for Greg so they could figure out how to defend him?

    I spent so long figuring out these blockquotes, they had better turn out okay *shakes fist*

  74. Regarding the do not trust non-Grounders comment: it needed to be quick as I was running out of time (with a minute to go till EOD). There were two intents and purposes behind it and two separate audiences:

    – to the Grounders in the game: to be cautious of anyone not in that faction, which goes without saying as we do not know how many possible anti-town factions are out there, but Grounders know themselves to be (pro)town. A farewell message if you wish.

    – to the other town factions (of which we still are not sure how many there are): to watch out for anyone who is not a Grounder, as based on the info I have I know them to be aligned with/the town – yet I cannot say so for sure for any other faction. It is left to be seen how the factions/alignments/towns are to work, even if we operate under the assumption right now that we are all One town.

    That’s it – that’s all there was to it.

  75. Amber B – I’m wondering if you could answer my query above? It might have been missed but I’m extremely curious as to your voting pattern. Voting JENN due to inactivity would have made sense to me if you didn’t have a vote for Kara, however she was the person you were most suspicious of at the time with plenty of votes so switching then didn’t really make sense to me.

    Could it be that it was a way to distance yourself from the leading votes to stay out of the spotlight?

    @Amber B – can you explain why you cancelled your vote for Kara (who was in the lead at 5 at that time) for Jenn a bit more? I’m really curious as to what made you more suspicious about Jenn (especially in comparison to Kara) to do so at the time.

  76. Okay so I went back to look at Greg’s comments from yesterDay and here’s what I got. It’s a very rough working theory at the moment because I’m not certain about any of this, but I’m hoping this will get some discussion going.

    It’s been noted before that Greg was talking about what the group alignments could be early on, and he spent a lot of time talking about the Grounders. Disclaimer: He’s not the only one to theorise, and certainly not the only one who was suspicious of the Grounders, but I’m specifically looking to tie him to Nicole and Mt Weather for the purposes of this exercise.

    So… I wonder- are we on the ground, and who will the baddies be? Grounders, Reapers, Mt Weather…??

    He could have been looking for information here on what the other groups are. To his credit, he did mention Mt Weather but they were last on the list. He later said

    I don’t think it’s out there to suggest that Grounders/ Reapers/ whatever are gonna be baddies, since they clearly were in the show.

    Mt Weather is now “whatever”.

    Just as an aside, it’s kinda nice to be playing in a Game where I actually know what’s going on!

    Does this tie in with what Nicole was saying about people accidentally giving away information?

    So this conversation got me thinking- who are the prominent Grounders of seasons 1-3? I came up with Lexa, Lincoln, Indra, Echo, Emori, Niylah, Roan, Queen Nia, Luna, Anya, and Sienna. Sorry for any I missed. Oh and my boy Nyko. 🙂

    Note that alliances were very tenuous. Lexa famously betrayed Clarke when they were besieging Mt. Weather, although we know that the alliance was reestablished later.

    So who do I think are the Grounders most likely to be included in this Game? Speaking only for myself, I’d have to guess [list]

    Again, he’s talking about the Grounders a lot, perhaps to keep our focus on them?

    @Harker- I do not really have any other suspicions at the moment. I’ve been scouring through the comments looking for hints but we’ve been talking mostly about Grounders and whether they’re Town- the focus on that has seemed odd to me- but I don’t have much else?

    Greg was one of the more active commentors in Day 1, and now he’s nowhere to be seen. I know from watching past games that he’s normally a very active player and he has his sh*t together, and he’s very good at theorising. It’s interesting that the only vote he made in Day 1 was for Kara and it was a retaliation for her voting for him.

    Greg’s final comment above was just before the end of the Day. He left his vote for Kara, and didn’t step in at all when the final votes were going down. Nicole wasn’t on the board when Greg last commented. Since he had already voted for Kara, the person in the lead/second person in the lead, was he just waiting to see what happened? If he is Mafia, this vote for Kara was already protecting Nicole and there wasn’t much he could have done, apart from jump in at the end and seal her fate as a fake-out.

    Another thing to note is he didn’t address Nicole at all in Day 1, perhaps as a distancing measure?

    Those are some rough thoughts. I’m going to sleep on them and get back into it tomorrow!

  77. @Harker – Ok I just went back on the final votes yesterDay and looks like I got my calculations wrong – Megan didn’t cause a tie towards the end of the Day. It looks like her comment about causing a tie must have been delayed or posted before the actual votes (possibly Dana’s).

  78. @Beth

    Yeah, I was referring to Harker’s comment (posted just before Geg’s btw):

    “Do you have thoughts regarding the Ark kids? (Is that what they’re called in-universe? Or is it The 100 that refers to the kids that are dropped from space?”

    When I first saw it, I was really suspicious of Harker, but after thinking about it, they did mention that they were asking about ‘in-universe’ so I think I might have just focused all my suspicions on Harker and made a bigger thing than it actually was.

    As for Greg’s comment, I did know that someone else had done the Ark/100 thing but I couldn’t remember who and I didn’t figure out it was Greg when I was skimming through the comments.

    But now that you mention it, Greg does seem a bit suspicious because referring to them as Ark/100 suggests he doesn’t know which is town and (assuming both teams exist and are town-aligned), this could mean that he isn’t part of either team. In addition, Greg said

    ‘I wonder- are we on the ground, and who will the baddies be? Grounders, Reapers, Mt Weather…??’

    Including Grounders in the list of non-townies suggests that he doesn’t know the grounders’ alignment and isn’t a grounder. So since he doesn’t seem to fit into any town-aligned team, he could be mafia or third party.

    However, he definitely isn’t the person I’m most suspicious of and I’ll write a full comment outlining my suspicions tomorrow because it’s late and I want to sleep.

  79. With Jeanns very quick support of Kara yesterday makes me think they’re on the same team. Not saying they necessarily know they each are but both coming out pretty clear early on in the discussion about Grounders makes me think they both are. So at the moment I’m running with Jeann and Kara as Grounders. Will just have to see in the coming days to see if they’re pro-town or not. Whilst I don’t think they’re mafia, they may still be enemies of other towns. As Kara said, we just have to get rid of known enemies like Mt Weather and then see what’s left to us after that.

    @Dana
    I only brought up Reapers after reading Shannon W comments about them yesterday. I had no idea about them until then. And you’ve still got the scythe connection from yesterday in your mind. I’m not familiar with either fandom so they wereo clues of any kind. And I don’t know why the game makers would cross fandoms to create a game mechanic about them both so it’s suspicious you keep bringing it up. Granted I did some silly things at the end of yesterday to put suspicion on myself, but this just feels a bit forced on me from nowhere. Trying to follow others thoughts against me but not seem like a bandwagon perhaps?

    @Anne
    I didn’t change my mind about Kara between day 1 & 2. I commented yesterday that I wanted to keep Kara in. So it’s the same opinion before I knew the endings of the day.
    And whilst the thing I said about voting someone out even if they were town and then not voting in the end doesn’t make sense, it does with the time I had and what I was thinking at the time as I’ve said. It’s one thing knowing the playing field and voting for someone because you’re stumped and just need more info. But I literally had no idea why folks were voting for Nicole. So whilst I didn’t want a tie, I didn’t want to bandwagon either. I knew someone was going out and I didn’t want to look sus if I bandwagoned Nicole after clearly stating that I had no idea why there were votes for her, and she turned out to be town. Of course with her reveal as mafia, that makes my actions look sus but would have been less so if she wasn’t. But it may not make the most logic sense but all this went down in the space of a few minutes of me trying to frantically read as much as possible whilst still refreshing to see the vote count. There wasn’t much time for proper thought, I just did. And that’s all I can say. That’s the truth so matter how wild it may seem.

    @Harker
    I should have perhaps written it differently, but I meant that The Ark isn’t specified as THE Town. So it was to question, are the Ark a Town group and there’s a few of us (different groups like The 100, the Ark and Grounders), or are they third party altogether. Do they have their own goals separate to town?

    And to answer the EOD question, it was simply just a split second decision to not be on the list that got her out. I wanted to help get someone out in the case of a tie, but when it was clear someone was, I wanted to back off. Because if she was town and I had kept my vote, you can’t tell me it wouldn’t look clearly like a bandwagon vote when I even commented I had no idea why she was sus to folks in the first place? So whilst it wasn’t going to change the outcome, that was never my intention. Only to change my action. Which of course looks incredibly sus now, but if I’d kept it, you’d all only be asking why I voted for her after saying I don’t know why. So either way it was never going well for me. I can only tell you why I did what I did and the rest is up to you.

    At this moment I’m not too sure who to vote for. Bit suspicious of Dana for her EOD actions (I know mine are obvs sus to many as well, but I know my intentions as I’ve stated to you all, up to you to decide). She was suspicious of Kara and not mentioned Nicole and then voted last minute. Why not keep it for Kara? Not quite right. And now two comments trying to link me to a completely different fandom/ concept which doesn’t make sense at all. Doesn’t sit well with me.

    And Amber G comments about Greg above are pretty sound. A lot of focus on Grounders. Whilst of course that’s what a lot of the discussion was about, but Amber G does make some good points. Will have to look at them again in context of everyone else’s.

    But tbh not too sure at this point. I’ve spent most of my time reading through trying to answer questions about my actions and not enough digesting about other players as of yet. Will go back and make some thoughts.

  80. @Greg thanks for answering my questions so quickly. I am fairly certain you had already referred to Mt. Weather as Mt. Weather prior to your referring to them as “mountain men” though I don’t have the time to confirm that right now. In regards to the other comment I was referencing you taking away attention from Mt. Weather by continuing to focus on if the Grounders are town or not; not that you are referencing Mt. Weather too much (hence my case in point).

    @Amber G I think your pointing out that Nicole’s comment about finding Greg suspicious (in every game) may be her trying to distance herself is very interesting to keep in mind! I also missed Greg referring to Mt. Weather as “whatever” in a separate comment, so you pointing that adds to my suspicion of him. Lastly, I have also found it interesting that he is so quiet today after commenting so much yesterday.

    With all this, and my prior suspicion as already mentioned, I am going to go ahead and

    VOTE GREG

    I am suspicious of the last-second voting and people creating ties in Day 1, as well as their explanation attempts for it toDay… But Greg is my strongest suspicion as of now. I’ll try to be more active at the end of the Day tomorrow (as opposed to Day 1) in case my suspicions change.

  81. Voting Update:
    Dana (1) — Anne
    Greg (1)- Shannon

    Not voting: Harker, Jeann, Beth, Amber B, Meeghan, Siran, Greg, Dana, Megan, Maria, Anna, Amber G, Kerrie, Kara, Kerys

    Haven’t met comment minimum: Amber B (2), Meeghan (0), Greg (2) , Anna (1) , Kerys (2)

    16 hours left!

  82. @Shannon: your comments on Greg/Mt. Weather/mountain men/Mountain Men made me curious so I was combing back through D1 and looking at the relevant information and found something that may or may not be…let’s say interesting.

    Megan said:

    Also what @Shannon W said about the Mountain Men and the Reapers was interesting. Assuming they’re in the game there’s a few ways how they could be used. The reapers could already be in play and be like the killers of the mafia (the mountain folk) and do their bidding. Or they could be recruited and ‘turned’ throughout the game similar to the cult function.

    Since you brought up a line of questioning Greg and the first part, this has me thinking, first, that maybe Megan mentioned something that we will have to deal with (whether through design or luck): a cult function. Greg does mostly refer to Mt. Weather as Mt. Weather, though from the Wiki I found and posted about D1, those residents are called Mountain Men. Perhaps it was a slip/clue? Secondly, that Megan is, so far as I can tell, the first person to refer to Mt. Weather persons as Mountain Men in conversation rather than reference material. Not really sure if this means anything, but since you’d made it a point when outlining you suspicions of Greg, I thought I’d point it out while searching D1.

  83. Ok, part of the code didn’t work. I tried to bold a part of Megan’s text within the quote. She said in that comment, before we knew that Mt. Weather as a Mafia affiliation:

    The reapers could already be in play and be like the killers of the mafia (the mountain folk)

    IIRC Megan watched a recap and this could be an educated guess/assumption, but without a confirmation in-game, it seemed potentially important.

  84. @Jeann – Ah, I’m sorry! I was hoping I hadn’t missed any other comments when making my reply.

    Okay, so D1 is always super hard for me, as I’m sure it is for everyone so when voting I wasn’t real concrete in my views one way or another. I was re-reading some comments and Jenn’s cat comment just stuck out to me as a weird reason not to play. Of course, we can’t really blame real-life situations on people’s playing. And Kara still had enough votes that she could have ended up voted off either way had that happened.

  85. Wow, those introductory comments about game set up and factions have really made a couple people suspicious, I guess! I feel like reading them as they’re written- it’s obvious they’re just opening “breaking the ice” comments, initially? But as this is TBG they’re fair game, of course! So I went back and looked at my comments from Day One and- I mentioned Grounders 12 times out of 27 comments. So I guess that qualifies as talking about Grounders a lot, but I think many of us were? Notice in my first comment I also said “are we on the ground”- meaning, literally, are we the 100 kids/ Ark people on Earth, or is the game set on the Ark, or whatever. I mean it’s probably obvious that the default assumption is we’re “on the ground”, but these were just introductory comments.

    I don’t think it’s out there to suggest that Grounders/ Reapers/ whatever are gonna be baddies, since they clearly were in the show.

    Mt Weather is now “whatever”.

    Well, yeah. I stand by this actually, because there was a lot of debate in Day Onee about Kara’s assertion that anyone not a grounder is suspect. And my reaction to that was- why would anyone not Grounder be suspect? There’s going to be a 100/Ark/ whatever faction in play, almost certainly, so we either have more than one Town faction or one Town faction comprised of 100 kids, Ark adults, Grounders, and potentially others. I don’t honestly get why this is suspicious at ALL. I can be pro- Town and not know early in the Game who other pro- Town factions are! I would assume that describes all of us, or most.

    As far as listing the Grounders, well… just trying to be helpful. and fill the void in Day One commenting, as there’s always so little to go on. I also noted 100/Ark possibilities as well.

    Greg was one of the more active commentors in Day 1, and now he’s nowhere to be seen.

    Also, I noted that I wouldn’t be around much until at least the weekend. And today didn’t turn out much better, unfortunately. I do tend to be a bit chatty in the Games but this Day has just been tough. I guess I could have requested a waiver for toDay but honestly didn’t think I’d be this behind…

    It’s interesting that the only vote he made in Day 1 was for Kara and it was a retaliation for her voting for him

    I think I generally don’t vote switch a lot in Games? I tend to vote when I’m pretty sure of something and stick to it unless other info changes my mind. Although in this case I didn’t have a LOT against Kara, but my suspicions for her were the most I had in Day One.

  86. If a reason is given for the lack of activity I will happily apologize and quickly change my vote.

    Otherwise….

    VOTE: MEEGHAN

  87. I honestly find it interesting that people are in part suspicious of me for not capitalizing mountain men 🙂 or because I used the word “whatever”. ??? I mean, I know there’s other things mentioned but it feels a bit like grasping at straws.

  88. I think it’s really weird that Meeghan hasn’t checked in either, but I think some explanations are that she might have been targeted by a Night Action, or it was a negative effect of the Admin thing last night.

    But there are others higher on my suspicion list so far that I would rather vote for so far.

    @Amber B – Thanks for your explanation! So you’re agreeing now that vote switching to Jenn was a weird choice when it looked like Kara was being voted off at that point? So where do you stand on your suspicions with Kara and Jenn at this point?

  89. I think Meeghan tends to be a quieter player so I’m assuming she’ll be here? Although yes there could be a game reason too, of course.

    @Meeghan- hope all is well!

  90. @Megan Rose – I have one more question for you. Towards the end of D1, you left this comment with you immediately posted after you CANCEL VOTE

    Sorry didn’t realise it was a tie, don’t know what the heck is going on. I should just stop and go through everything later

    Does that mean you intended to leave a tie (I’m presuming Nicole and Kara) as your very last action of the Day?

  91. Voting Update:
    Dana (1) — Anne
    Greg (1)- Shannon

    Not voting: Harker, Jeann, Beth, Amber B, Meeghan, Greg, Dana, Megan, Maria, Anna, Amber G, Kerrie, Kara, Kerys, Siran

    Haven’t met comment minimum: Amber B (3), Meeghan (0), Anna (1) , Kerys (2)

    13 hours left!

  92. Oh my gosh!! I’m so sorry all. I had a terrible week at work, and then forgot I had family commitments this weekend. I’ll be home in 2 hours and then I’m spending the rest of the evening catching up and commenting. Talk soon!!

  93. for the two players on the voting list

    Dana’s action to vote for Nicole turned out to be for the better. She also gave her reason as pointed out by Kerrie; though it could also be a camouflage. Cause maybe everyone will be under assumption that Nicole’s voters should not be the mafia, but then again it could also be the strategy? I’m not sure yet.

    Greg did mention he would be busy and wouldn’t have time for the Day 2, I think? He didn’t even give his trademark gif just yet 😂 so could be something in rl that he has to do; I don’t have many to think about Greg except I noticed that he did vote for Kara for the first vote and for the first real vote; kara vote for greg then changed to nicole; and then greg vote for Kara to retaliate? Could it be something?

    I’ll look more for switch vote in a while and see what else I have missed in D1 and D2

    I admitted that I didn’t know much about the series thus when we are talking about the characters; I went like this –> 😶

    OKay gonna go cook and eat and mull over again for the comments haha

  94. Okay, it’s getting a bit close to the end of the Day for comfort, given my bed time is in 3ish hours I’m going to lay out my strongest suspicions and then cast my final vote. As always I won’t be here until the end of the Day because that’s 4am my time.

    The three most suspicious players to me are currently: Amber B, Megan Rose and Dana.

    DANA

    Dana was extremely quiet yesterDay. What makes her suspicious to me however, is how she votes for Kara towards the end of the Day, and then vote switches to Nicole right on the dot of Day end.

    She cites today that she still has residual suspicions of Kara, but she switched her vote for Nicole to break a tie.

    Her reasoning yesterDay for voting for Kara:

    I’m placing my vote for this person because I feel like we can gain information on if their speculations were accurate when their role is revealed.

    and also today:

    @Jeann I voted for Kara initially because I figured we could at least glean some information from her elimination. Was she telling the truth? Who cast doubt on her if she was telling the truth?

    This to me is kind of shaky logic for me, because wouldn’t voting off ANYONE have had the same effect? You’d know what their role and group was if they were eliminated.

    Her vote for Kara ties it about 7 minutes to Day end, however doesn’t stick as she shifts for Nicole to break a tie. The voting update at 4 minutes was Kara (6) and NIcole (5). Kerys votes for Nicole, Megan Rose votes for Nicole and then Dana votes for Nicole at last minute.

    @Jeann I voted for Nicole purely so there wouldn’t be a tie. If I had kept my vote for Kara there wouldn’t have been an elimination.

    I didn’t immediately cancel and vote for Nicole upon learning I did tie it up until i refreshed a couple times to see if someone else would break it. Someone did. Then with such a short period to go, there was another tie and I’m not a believer in ties so I changed my vote to the other person so there wouldn’t be one, not seeing that Megan had also voted for Nicole.

    Given she was already refreshing at the time, she couldn’ve seen at least a few votes come in for Nicole at that point, so it’s kind of shaky for me that she voted for Nicole to break a tie, as she claims. I think getting into the end of the Day by eliminating a Mafia member, if you were on their team would make you look good the next day as Dana says so herself:

    Ultimately, I’m relieved things happened as they did and we now know that there is a mafia and its Mt. Weather.

    AMBER B (YA INDULGENCES)

    Amber B has also been really quiet today, but one thing about her voting really caught my eye. She says this yesterDay for her Kara vote:

    I don’t know what I think of Kara and I think it’s good to know someone’s alliances with someone being voted off. I definitely don’t want to not vote because that doesn’t really help.

    VOTE KARA

    Then when the votes looked like this:

    Kara (5)- Nicole, Greg, Amber G., Meeghan, Amber B.

    Amber B cancels her vote for Kara, and then votes for Jenn because:

    She’s been under the radar and the comment about forgetting about the game due to her cat seems so weird to me right now.

    This to me looks like such a weird vote, because if the person you are most suspicious of at the time looks like they’re leading the votes – then why wouldn’t you keep your vote for them? It doesn’t look like a Townie move to me. If you were a Mafia member however, the benefit would be:
    – to distance yourself from the leading votes in the board in an effort to stay out of the spotlight.
    – to distance yourself from another Mafia member who is also voting for Kara.

    Then today, Amber B says in response to her behaviour:

    Okay, so D1 is always super hard for me, as I’m sure it is for everyone so when voting I wasn’t real concrete in my views one way or another. I was re-reading some comments and Jenn’s cat comment just stuck out to me as a weird reason not to play. Of course, we can’t really blame real-life situations on people’s playing. And Kara still had enough votes that she could have ended up voted off either way had that happened.

    ToDay, she says that Kara had enough votes that she could’ve been voted off anyway. Which doesn’t really check out in my books, because every single vote counts given how hectic the end of the day usually goes.

    I also have a secondary reason for suspecting Amber B, and Jenn’s elimination is tied to that.

    Jenn (3)- Maria, Anna, Amber B.

    A few people today have theorised about Jenn’s elimination being a strange one last night, and even said that it might be because of the random admin play overnight. But to me, I’ve said that it looks like a standard revenge kill, because she voted Nicole out.

    But Amber B was also someone who voted for Jenn, so maybe if the Mafia targeted Jenn at night, it would look like Amber B, along with Maria and Anna “had it out for her”. But the perfect Mafia defense would be “we wouldn’t be so obvious to target someone linked to one of us”. Thereby clearing Amber B’s name as a Mafia member.

    MEGAN ROSE

    I’ve questioned Megan Rose heavily today (thank you for responding to my questions), but unfortunately my suspicions for her haven’t died down. I find her suspicious because of her behaviour towards the end of Day:

    – votes for Nicole 1 minute to go
    – Cancels vote on the dot

    Then says this:

    Sorry didn’t realise it was a tie, don’t know what the heck is going on. I should just stop and go through everything later

    This to me says that she intended to cause a tie at the very last minute, saving Nicole for another Day. About Nicole, she does say this:

    I didn’t really know why there was suspicion her way and I didn’t want it to be interpreted as a bandwagon vote if it turned out she was town.

    “And it is always better for someone to go since then we have info to play with, even if they did end up being town.”

    These two statements are contradictory and doesn’t tie up to her behaviour in an effort to cause a tie. Unless she already knew Nicole’s allegiance, and knowing that bandwagoning on her at the last minute with no suspicions (hence Dana) would look even more suspicious). If she had kept her vote for Nicole, it would’ve done exactly that – shown what allegiance she was.

    Megan has also stated, a few times today actually:

    “Jeanns comment above further cements my belief that she is neither The Ark or the 100 and is a Grounder member, alongside Kara. Her sticking with Kara so adamantly yesterday shows that.”

    As someone who is pro-Town, why would you keep on pointing out someone who you think is a Townie, rather than looking at people who you think are Not?

    The one thing that gives me pause about Megan though, is this yesterDay:

    But in sort of response to the question on everyone’s minds about who is Town, I’m saying it’s The 100. The show follows them and their interactions with all the other groups. There could possibly be other towns, we’ve had that in the games before (ie ADSOM) so it could be true. I was highly suspicious at first by the bold notion that Grounders are definitely town, but I’m definitely warming to the idea that are two towns. But are we still against each other or will we come together later like alliances have been made in the show?

    She says The 100 is Town, and her language in the last sentence kind of implies that she knows something about this.

    Out of the people above, my vote will be for:

    VOTE AMBER B

  95. When I first saw that Jenn was dead I assumed that meant some attention could be on me for voting for her. But I think Beth made some good point about what may have happened since we don’t know for sure what did happen.

    I also had a thought considering that is it possible that there is town members with the ability to kill. While Mount Weather seems to be the mafia is it possible that someone on one of the possible town teams have a kill ability and accidentally killed Jenn not realising she was a town member.

    Also with Jenn’s death, my thinking that it confirms the existence of a few town groups. LIkely the Ark, the 100 and the grounders.

    I don’t think I’m the best at analysing but I think at the moment Siran is someone on who sticks out to me mainly because they didn’t vote D1.

    I had only voted initially for the sake of following the rules. I was hoping to read something that would make me suspicious of any player. When I didn’t really happen, I thought it unfair for me to vote for anyone.

    I think the one time I didn’t vote D1 was as a mafia member and as such I always lean towards people who don’t vote to be suspicious. I think it’s a better policy to vote even if we’re not totally sure because it gives us at least something to work off.

    Siran not voting and her also being a quieter player leaves us with not much to work with in her regard.

  96. Responding to questions at the end of Day 1:

    @Amber G asked me:

    When you wake up and we start Day 2, could you let us know why you think there’s an Ark and a The 100? I’m not arguing, I just want to know why you think they’re split.

    I think they might be split because I’m on Jenn’s team, and a lot of other players seem to think that The 100 are a town team.

    Kerrie said:

    Meeghan and Megan have also referred to the 100 as town, leading me to believe that both of them are town as well.

    I said The 100 was a possible town team, as well as The Ark.

    Anne said:

    I’m with Amber G, I don’t understand what Meeghan means by this:
    • the 100 = town 1

    • the ark = town 2
    Isn’t this one in the same? 🤔 Aren’t these the same people, how could it be two towns.

    I can only go by what information I have, and that was that while others were speculating that The 100 was likely town, I wanted to put out there that The Ark was ALSO town, and that I didn’t think they were one town team joined – I wanted to put out there that they were likely to be separate teams.

    Kara said:

    So is Meeghan’s choice to vote for me despite her believing there are multiple town alliances and it is not smart to vote members of any of them off at this point…

    @Kara, you said earlier in D1 that all non-grounders were suspicious. Using that same argument, I was saying that all non-Ark are suspicious. We can agree to disagree and work together, but when I went to bed last Sunday night, you hadn’t recanted that statement and I’m going off your words alone (who is someone self-proclaimed to not be on my team and therefore suspicious of me) that you are town. I know nothing about The 100 show or books, as I have stated multiple times, so I’m going off what others have said about their alliance. It seems to me like The Grounders might be more third party, and possibly pro-town, than Town itself, and your statement at the end of Day 1 lends itself to that. But also, this could be a very cunning move to ensure that we keep you alive.

  97. Day 2 comments:
    Ok, I’m just going through comments chronologically as they are appear toDay, so apologies if this is a bit rambly…

    1. Yay, mafia out on Day 1 is awesome. Sorry I was part of the ‘voting for Kara’ group. However, I stand behind my reasoning. Someone saying that we need them and not to vote them out is kinda suspicious to me, ESPECIALLY so early on in the game. And Kara saying that ‘all non-grounders are suspicious’, when I have information that The Ark is not mafia, puts us at odds. I still think that The Grounders are third party as I said yesterDay, but I’m willing to take Kara at her words at the end of yesterDay that we may need them to win.

    2. Megan Rose said toDay:


    But also it definitely seems now as if there are lots of different groups, The Ark is now a contender.


    Yes, I said that yesterDay when I laid out my theory of 2 towns (100 + Ark), a third party (Grounders), and mafia (who we now know are Mt Weather).

    3. Jeann commented:


    One thing that I do want to look at are:
The people who were confused about what the Ark/100 team were called, because now it’s confirmed that it’s “The Ark” from Jenns night death.


    @Jeann, On one hand, I agree with you but on the other hand, I think that anyone who is Grounders or 100 or Ark (IF they are all separate pro-town entities) WOULD be confused by what town is called.

    4. Megan Rose said:


    I wouldn’t have guessed The Ark to be the main group of the games seeing as the shows and books follow The 100 mainly, and I thought this yesterday and still believe it now.


    From this, I don’t believe that Megan is either The Ark, or The 100. And based on her suspicion of The Grounders, I would have to say that Megan is my current favourite to be a Mafia.

    5. Kara said:


    i.e. that a faction exists by the name of The Ark, I would like to inquire as to your belief that The Ark and The 100 are one and the same. Whilst proven correct in retrospect, at the time you made the comment, this was still up for debate.


    I don’t think this HAS been proven. I don’t recall anyone saying that they are the same thing, and I also don’t recall anyone stepping up and saying that The 100 is even a confirmed faction as yet. We have speculated, but even I said that if The 100 exists, I see them as separate to The Ark.

    6. Maria said:


    Cause like Jenn is cop apparently and she’s The Ark. If we can’t trust non-grounders then, could it be that the cop role from Jenn is a disguise? That she’s (Jenn) actually something else??? Maybe??


    @Maria: What do you mean by this?? Do you think that Jenn wasn’t really a Cop, or that The Ark isn’t really Town?? Can you please explain this comment a bit more?

    7. @Siran, that’s the second time you’ve voted for me these games… I’m starting to feel a little unloved?? 🙃

    8. Super apologies. For those that asked, I was just super busy with family obligations that I forgot were happening this weekend. I had dinner with my family on Friday night, and then a day at the zoo with my nephew on Saturday (and it was 37ºC – super hot!!) and I fell asleep early on Sat night. Today I had brunch then shopping with the family, and now they’re gone, and I am catching up.

  98. I’m not working for the next two days (super long weekend), so I will likely be around a lot later toDay. Hoping some of you come back while I’m still up (I definitely won’t make it to ‘end of Day’ as that’s 5am my time).

  99. @Meeghan: I was just thinking with that could it also be possible that Jenn’s role reveal as a Cop was also a disguise? Maybe Jenn’s role is something else?

    Also I notice you mentioned that you’re in Jenn’s team as in The Ark? Can you clarify?

  100. @Meeghan
    I am quite confused about your most recent comments and the extent to which you find Megan as suspicious as I find your arguments to be unfounded. Whilst I had strong suspicions of Megan at first (and still do to some extent for the reasons already laid out by Jeann) Megan was also the first one to say that she believes the town to actually be called The 100:

    “surely only the 100 are town (with other groups as possible alliances”

    and later

    ”But in sort of response to the question on everyone’s minds about who is Town, I’m saying it’s The 100.”

    And you said:

    From this, I don’t believe that Megan is either The Ark, or The 100. And based on her suspicion of The Grounders, I would have to say that Megan is my current favourite to be a Mafia.

    and later

    ”I don’t recall anyone saying that they are the same thing, and I also don’t recall anyone stepping up and saying that The 100 is even a confirmed faction as yet.”

    Whilst I agree that Megan is likely not a Grounder, I think she made a strong case for her being The 100 by coming out and confirming the name first at a time we were all speculating. Now, this could have been a very bold Mafia move given the overall speculation going on as it was a fairly safe bet that there would be at least one team called The 100… but it was not confirmed by anyone at the time and doing so, should it then turn out to be incorrect, would have been too bold a move for a Mafia player I should believe.

    I am wondering, though, whether you are hyper focusing on Megan and saying she is the most suspicious to you right now in order to distract from suspicions that were raised against other players and which you have not addressed at all.

  101. @Kara Given that the book and show is called The 100, I also believe that it’s highly likely there is a pro-town group called The 100. I think even the mafia would be able to determine that. Anyone could say “surely the 100 are town”, because surely The 100 IS a town faction. I also said this when I was pointing out that I assumed there would be more than 1 town.

    I didn’t see the second quote that you reference, but I will certainly go look it up, and when it was said. As I said, I don’t recall anyone saying it, but I also had almost a whole week off from the game as today (my Sunday) is the first time I’ve checked in since last Sunday.

    I’m not saying that other players aren’t suspicious. I’m saying that based on her comments made toDay, she is at the top of my suspicions list. The whole vote change thing at the end of Day 1 is hinky. Yes, Megan might have been confused and anxious and changed and canceled her votes based on that. But we’ve also voted out people for less in other games.

    I also don’t think I’m hyper focusing on Megan. I asked Maria a question, and have I voted for Megan? No, not at this stage. Why are you hyperfocusing on me? Other people have also said that they find her somewhat suspicious. And why haven’t you voted yet toDay? You’ve been commenting all Day and yet made no moves yet.

  102. @Kara, it seems like you’re stuck on me. I don’t know why, but it could be because I voted for you yesterday and keep referencing your “all non-grounders are sus” (yes, this is me paraphrasing) comment.

    For your reference, Siran did a similar thing in a previous game, and she and I went back and forth for the entire game throwing speculation at each other, and it turns out we were both town. This was a wasted effort and it probably just led to us both being frustrated with the other.

    I’m agreeing that it’s likely you’re pro-town. Given the information I have, which is my character and team and what you’ve said, I’d really like to just park this now.

    @Maria – apologies, I missed your comment above:

    Also I notice you mentioned that you’re in Jenn’s team as in The Ark? Can you clarify?

    Yeah, I’m in The Ark. I’ve been not-so-subtly saying it for two Days now.

    @Siran, speaking of our previous confrontation earlier, you seem a lot quieter to me this game. Any particular reason?

  103. @Jeann: This raises a valid point regarding Amber B’s vote switch from Kara to Jenn:

    This to me looks like such a weird vote, because if the person you are most suspicious of at the time looks like they’re leading the votes – then why wouldn’t you keep your vote for them? It doesn’t look like a Townie move to me. If you were a Mafia member however, the benefit would be:
    – to distance yourself from the leading votes in the board in an effort to stay out of the spotlight.
    – to distance yourself from another Mafia member who is also voting for Kara.

    Considering Amber goes from “this is a weird reason to not play” to “we can’t hold people responsible for real world events”.

    If this were later in the game I would say it was possible that an influenced vote was at play, though D1 I don’t know that that is possible. Those are the worst to work around. 😖

    @Anna: Was there any specific reason that brought you to this inquiry, rather than thinking it’s a general Mafia Night kill? I’m not sure if you meant to phrase this as a question, but for the moment I’ll go with that because it can be read that way and yes, there could be because the Vigilante Role allows for a Town/Pro-Town Person to have a killing power.

    I also had a thought considering that is it possible that there is town members with the ability to kill. While Mount Weather seems to be the mafia is it possible that someone on one of the possible town teams have a kill ability and accidentally killed Jenn not realising she was a town member.

    @Meeghan:

    Someone saying that we need them and not to vote them out is kinda suspicious to me, ESPECIALLY so early on in the game. And Kara saying that ‘all non-grounders are suspicious’, when I have information that The Ark is not mafia, puts us at odds.

    Did you mention this information yesterDay, Meeghan? I’m on my mobile at work at the moment so it’s a little hard to check. In any case, this suspicion seems linear to the titular series from what has been said by people who have seen/read it thus far. Does this mean anything right now? I’m not sure. 🤔

    Edit: you’re commenting outright as I type this that you’re in the Ark. 😆 But I’m still curious about yesterDay, if you don’t mind? Just for clarity. 🙂

  104. @Dana:

    *Nicole’s random first vote was for Anna. Always an easy way to try to disguise a teammate is to have your random first vote be for them. Knowing Nicole is mafia, could that mean anything? Probably not but I’m just trying to have thoughts.

    *Jeann was the first to vote for Nicole. Feel like it’s likely she’s not on the same team as her. Jenn was second, we know her to be town.

    If you could, would you mind explaining why you think think that it’s possible that Anna’s first vote (while purportedly random) could potentially be a sign of her disguising herself as a teammate while you think that Jeann’s similar first vote for Nicole on EOD (her last comment of D1 in fact) feels, as you say, likely that they’re not on the same team?

  105. @Harker, yep, I specifically talked about The Ark as Town several times yesterDay:

    January 16, 2021 at 1:04 am

    Firstly, why wouldn’t the Ark be town??

    If Grounders are pro-town, does that mean you’re saying that Ark are anti-town?? Or that you didn’t know there was an Ark, and therefore you’re actually third party who is pro-town??

    January 17, 2021 at 2:00 pm

    I do believe we have multiple teams, but I don’t think it’s as simple as “Grounders = pro-town, everyone else = anti-town” as has been said earlier toDay.

    I believe the following;

    • the 100 = town 1
    • the ark = town 2
    • grounders = third party that may be pro-town

    Then of course we would have the mafia team (whoever they may be – please be kind, reminder that I haven’t seen the show or read the book and you all have listed a LOT of possibilities)
    Plus, there could either be a mafia-aligned character, or some third party people are anti-town aligned.

    Even Jenn thought that I was town-aligned:
    January 17, 2021 at 4:02 pm

    Meeghan I believe to be a possible Ark member, since she was one of the first to use it as a “sure thing”. I could be wrong, but I think maybe the Ark are good guys. Based of my limited information.

    ToDay I’ve requoted this a couple of times:
    January 24, 2021 at 9:44 am
    January 24, 2021 at 9:53 am
    January 24, 2021 at 12:36 pm

  106. Voting Update:
    Dana (1) — Anne
    Greg (1)- Shannon
    Amber B. (1)- Jeann

    Not voting: Harker, Beth, Amber B, Meeghan, Greg, Dana, Megan, Maria, Anna, Amber G, Kerrie, Kara, Kerys, Siran

    Haven’t met comment minimum: Amber B (3), Anna (3) , Kerys (2)

    5.5 hours to go!

  107. @Anna: Was there any specific reason that brought you to this inquiry, rather than thinking it’s a general Mafia Night kill? I’m not sure if you meant to phrase this as a question, but for the moment I’ll go with that because it can be read that way and yes, there could be because the Vigilante Role allows for a Town/Pro-Town Person to have a killing power.

    @Harker
    It could be a mafia kill but Beth and made some suggestions on other possible things that could have caused the kill and it was just a thought that I had that would also be interesting to consider because of how much bloodshed there is in the show.

    I don’t have a lot of strong suspicions right now. I would say Megan is probably someone on my radar largely for her end of Day voting, but I think I’m willing to give her some benefit of the doubt for now because she did say she mixed up the ending time and didn’t have much time to catch up by the end of D1. And it could have just been end of day craziness and panic.

    I think out of everyone I’m most suspicious of Siran currently. Not voting D1 could be her as town generally not wanting to vote out another town member but I know that it’s an action I once took as mafia and makes me suspicious of her doing it as a mafia member.

    VOTE: SIRAN

  108. @Meeghan
    I don’t think pointing out a fallacy in your reasoning (when I have questioned many other players throughout the day) is hyper focusing on you… I haven’t made any other arguments against you today when I have analysed many other players. So I am quite surprised by your strong reaction to my comment.

    As to my vote, I haven’t placed one yet because I am not sure whom I find most suspicious yet and a lot of people have not yet responded to questions directed at them. I don’t like flip-flopping and whilst I simultaneously like to have a vote on at all times, once I vote, I don’t like cancelling votes, and will only switch votes when certain. Since I’m not sure whom to vote for yet, I have not done so.

    In fact, a lot of people have not voted yet that have been active throughout the day. I don’t see how this serves any argument other than casting doubt on my statement… which can be fact checked?

  109. @Harker: no worries at all!!

    @Kara, I found my notes from Day1, which I had accidentally deleted. You’ve quoted Megan Rose as saying this:

    So I would have to say surely only the 100 are town (with other groups as possible alliances). Those are the ones the show truly follows and all the other groups are kind of always up to no good.

    However, well before she says that, she also says the following:

    And since she said they took the grounders and turned them, that lends me to believe they’d be allies of the town (which I’m assuming is the 100, or whatever else they’re called).

    Seeing I’ve sort of come to the decision from what I’ve read the 100 & grounders = good, and mountain men & reapers = bad. I’ll have to look over the posts again to see if I can glean anything.

    Okay so I just watched a season 1 recap and it seems the 100 killed a bunch of grounders. So they may not be allies after all…?? I know nothing, ignore my ramblings. Or help make sense of it a lil bit haha

    I think all of the conjecture around what town might be, and whether the 100 are actually good or not, kind of takes away from her later saying that The 100 are ‘surely’ town. Because other people have brought it up by then.

  110. Damnit!! @Inge or @Shannon, I’ve missed some / in there somewhere… please help me!! “However” shouldn’t be a quote, and “And”, “Seeing” and “Okay” should be separate quotes, and “I think” should not be a quote… I hope that makes sense. If not, I can repost the comment and you can delete that one!!

  111. I don’t really want to go back to Kara again and want to focus on the others to see, however Meeghan pointed out something about Kara that stuck me. Kara has yet to vote anyone while at D1; she went directly to Greg (tho change to Nicole for the better)

    And she also mentioned:
    “As to my vote, I haven’t placed one yet because I am not sure whom I find most suspicious yet and a lot of people have not yet responded to questions directed at them.”

    Why tho? You’re so into that not to trust non grounders that you voted for Greg right away and then to Anna due to your suspicious. Just want to know the sudden change

    Meeghan;
    She mentioned right away that she’s in Jenn’s team and that she’s The Ark. it’s a bold move, could we trust this statement?

    Day 2 is quite slow and the vote is quite scattered?

    I might put my vote in a while, hopefully before EOD

  112. This may be looking too in-depth into something, and I apologize if I’m wrong, but there’s something that feels potentially off.

    Dana says these things:

    1.

    @Beth I saw Kerys’ post that would have tied it and wanted to break the tie. I didn’t see Megan’s post when I did so and so ended up being the second to do so. It was all so chaotic.

    2.

    Then with such a short period to go, there was another tie and I’m not a believer in ties so I changed my vote to the other person so there wouldn’t be one, not seeing that Megan had also voted for Nicole.

    Stating that she saw Kerys’s vote that tied things up (which came in at the same time as Megan’s) makes me slightly wonder if the timing was a convenient reasoning for switching votes. I can allow that chaos EOD is intense, it just caught my eye while I was combing through things.

    However, there are things about her analytical communication today that just don’t make sense and make me confused/suspicious. I’ll probably check more things about between now and EOD because I’m done with work now, but until then:

    VOTE DANA

  113. @harker: I was hoping I would be able to do a better job at analyzing player comments. Since I couldn’t, it would have been unfair to vote for anyone.

    @meeghan: After my day 1 loss during Scythe I thought I would need a different strategy for the next time I played.

    Unfortunately, I believe that there could be mafia and town mixed on the 100, the Ark and Grounders.

  114. @Siran

    Unfortunately, I believe that there could be mafia and town mixed on the 100, the Ark and Grounders.

    What is the basis for that belief? Do you know of anything backing it up?

  115. Siran: what do you mean by this:

    Unfortunately, I believe that there could be mafia and town mixed on the 100, the Ark and Grounders.

    Do you mean spies or traitors or something? I think it was Greg that mentioned some kind of situation like that on the show, but in game, I’d like to know what you’re referring to.

  116. I only watched the first season and a little bit of the second season. With that I believe that Murphy could be mafia given his action to other members of the 100. I believe that Grounder Lincoln to be pro town because he helped (and appeared to have fallen in love with) Octavia. On the Ark, Jaha (if I have character names correct) killed someone and made it appear to be suicide. Of course I am also assuming these characters are used for this edition.

  117. @Siran

    @meeghan: After my day 1 loss during Scythe I thought I would need a different strategy for the next time I played.

    Fair!! I will try not to hold it against you 😂

  118. Do we know if the game is based purely on season 1, or book 1, or is it a couple of seasons/books, or the whole series? Just thinking of how we were nervous in Nevernight edition of who could be the mafia / third party based on where we were at in the series.
    Also, if we have an answer, that might help Siran with her character analysis.

  119. @Meeghan: yup, it’s on the signup post.

    This edition of The Bookish Games is themed around the first 3 seasons of the series The 100, based on the book by Kass Morgan.

    I checked Twitter which led me to the blog/signup. There you go.

  120. Yeah it’s the first three seasons.

    @Harker – on the show Lexa (leader of the Grounders) betrayed her people when a missile was launched at their camp and she didn’t warn them. She also betrayed Clarke when they were supposed to take Mt. Weather…

  121. Alright, it’s just past 2am here, I want to go to bed soon, and not much is happening with the voting.

    At this point in time, I am LEAST suspicious of:
    Greg, Anne, Jeann, Beth, Harker and Kara

    I have no feelings about:
    Amber B, Siran, Anna, Kerrie and Kerys

    I have some suspicions of:
    Megan, Amber G, Maria, Dana and Shannon

    Current votes are at:
    Dana (2) — Anne, Harker
    Greg (1) — Shannon
    Amber B. (1) — Jeann
    Siran (1) — Anna

    I don’t want to waste my vote, but it is looking like a quiet end of Day, and only one person that I’m feeling hinky about has any votes on the board and there’s less than 3 hours left.

  122. **Note: I may have mixed up the Ambers in my above comment. I’m very tired, and to be fair, I think I’ve mixed them up in my notes as well. Will fix over the Night.

  123. Rereading some comments and idk how to start to do my vote right now.

    As Jenn’s role was revealed (The Ark) and it might be a pro-town or town, somehow Meeghan conveniently said that she’s in the same team as Jenn. Trying to somehow have a blanket over her that she’s ‘not-mafia’; However, I look at her comments again in D1; I read that she mentioned about the 100 and the ark as town and that grounders as pro-town (https://thebookishgames.wordpress.com/2021/01/13/the-100-day-one/#comment-78992); Still bit skeptical but maybe she’s telling the truth? Who knows…

    I am leaning towards Megan Rose because of this:
    “I wouldn’t have guessed The Ark to be the main group of the games seeing as the shows and books follow The 100 mainly, and I thought this yesterday and still believe it now.”

    I do believe Meeghan also has pointed it out and I slightly agree that it means Megan is not The Ark; thus could be into mafia or a third party. And that she cancelled her vote like last minute even though she said it’s better to vote

    And it is always better for someone to go since then we have info to play with, even if they did end up being town.

    Though EOD can be stressful, I just find that it’s quite convenient to vote and cancel then use the reason that I don’t want to join the bandwagon despite not knowing why people vote for Nicole at the first place…

    For now, I’ll put my vote:

    VOTE MEGAN ROSE

    I don’t know if this will be my last vote cause timezone is nuts.

  124. With 3 hours to go, I need to put a vote on the board. I think there’s been a lot of good analysis and discussion today, and I feel like suspicions are leaning toward a few people, across the board.

    I woke up to a tons of comments and am still on my first coffee, so please forgive if this is muddled. And also a freaking novel. *sigh*

    I still find Megan slightly suspicious, but the fact that she outright stated she’s them The 100 makes me extend the same grace to her as I do to Kara stating she’s team Grounders. Either or both could be mafia making a super gutsy move, but if I believe one then I have to place the same logic on the other.
    For now.

    @Kerys you said

    However, he definitely isn’t the person I’m most suspicious of and I’ll write a full comment outlining my suspicions tomorrow because it’s late and I want to sleep.

    You have yet to come back and outline your suspicions for whoever you’re looking at (all I know from your post is that you’re more suspicious of them than Greg).
    Please come tell us what your suspicions are!

    Jeann brings up some good points about Amber B’s voting, and I’m still mulling those over.

    @Harker asked Anna

    Was there any specific reason that brought you to this inquiry, rather than thinking it’s a general Mafia Night kill? I’m not sure if you meant to phrase this as a question, but for the moment I’ll go with that because it can be read that way and yes, there could be because the Vigilante Role allows for a Town/Pro-Town Person to have a killing power.

    But you first brought up the existence of a Vigilante on D1, in response to Amber G’s question if Town has an option to kill, at https://thebookishgames.wordpress.com/2021/01/13/the-100-day-one/#comment-79006
    You said:

    To answer this question, yes, there is at least one role Pro-Town role that allows for Night kills: Vigilante.

    Maybe Anna and Amber G are on the same team, subtly pointing toward Jenn’s death being a mistake made by a Town faction, to take attention off any accurate conclusions being drawn from Jenn’s death?
    (Jeann’s comment about Amber B’s involvement is the only recent new speculation that might warrant this, so perhaps Amber B is also on their team? But killing the person that three people on the same team voted for- Anna, Amber G, Amber B- seems like a mistake if you’re trying to fly under the radar as Mafia. My brain is going in circles with this one…)

    I also keep going over the whole Dana vote-switch thing, and what it might point to.
    Honestly, I’m still slightly suspicious (for reasons stated in my previous posts) of
    Megan (from Nicole’s post, her contradictory statements re: Kara, and Megan’s EOD1 vote chaos);
    Dana (EOD1 vote switching perhaps to protect Nicole and then to bandwagon);
    Kerrie (EOD1 vote protecting Nicole);
    Maria (D1 vote contradicting her statement of who she finds suspicious, never clarified why she voted Jenn);
    Shannon (kept vote for Dana despite stated no suspicion of her);
    Amber B (D1 vote contradictory logic);
    Anna (D1 voting behavior).

    Time is ticking down right now, and I am guessing this day’s voting is *also* going to be chaotic, so I’m throwing a vote for someone in my list of suspicious persons, who is already on the leaderboard.

    VOTE DANA

  125. VOTE DANA

    Ok, so on Day 1, Dana doesn’t really say much. The thing that gives me hinky vibes is actually that Shannon W and Dana vote for each other, and Shannon W doesn’t change her vote from her initial of Dana all Day. While Shannon W makes a comment that this is typical game play for her, it can also be typical game play for mafia team members. Dana was never really at any point going to be voted out, as at most, she had two votes (Shannon W and Beth). It keeps Dana on the board, but Shannon W is able to slide under the radar while outwardly dis(? anti / non / un?)-aligning herself with Dana. (I’m very tired and can’t figure out the word there.)

    Dana’s vote hijinks at the end of Day1 don’t look good on her behalf, and if I’m coming down on Megan for hers, then it’s only fair that I come down on Dana for hers as well.

    The other thing that puts Dana and Shannon in the same camp for me is that Shannon W brings up Reapers as “definitely” being in seasons 1-3 of the show. While she was the fourth person to mention them (Greg, Amber G, Harker, Shannon), she also aligned them to the Grounders as well as Mt Weather team. (Mt Weather turned Grounders into Reapers.) Since Kara has been so adamant that Grounders are pro-town, that struck me as odd, but maybe this is a Cultist thing and only Grounders are able to be turned?? Which means that maybe we do need to have Grounders to win, or at least not let them all be turned.
    Someone who is a Reaper / Cultist may know that they can only turn Grounders, so Kara’s speculation that Shannon W is Grounder aligned because she called Grounders ‘victims’ could fit. (Maybe we don’t keep shouting about who we think all the Grounders are??)

    Jenn also could have been targeted for this statement:

    I think we have reapers, but that they may ben 3rd party aligned. I don’t have any speculations as of yet about who may be a reaper.

    ToDay Dana re-mentions my ‘glean / reaper’ comment from Day1, which Megan Rose already addressed. Whether or not it is coincidental is yet to be seen, but I’m willing to give Megan the benefit of the doubt as she didn’t play the Scythe game.

    However, two other people have used the word ‘glean’ toDay, where only Megan used it yesterDay: Dana (January 22, 2021 at 5:08 pm), Kara (January 22, 2021 at 8:35 pm), Dana (January 22, 2021 at 9:56 pm).

    Did we accidentally turn it into a code by me jokingly asking Megan Rose yesterDay?? Is Dana the Cult Leader and because Kara outed herself yesterDay as a Grounder has she now been turned??

    I also feel like I’m now delving into random conspiracy theories.

  126. Voting Update:
    Dana (4) — Anne, Harker, Beth, Meeghan
    Greg (1) — Shannon
    Amber B. (1) — Jeann
    Siran (1) — Anna
    Megan (1) — Maria

    Not voting: Amber B, Greg, Dana, Megan, Amber G, Kerrie, Kara, Kerys, Siran

    Haven’t met comment minimum: Amber B (3), Kerys (2)

    3 hours left!

  127. @Meeghan

    “Glean” was used in my comment to refer to the obtaining of information. I’m not entire sure what “code” this could stand for?

  128. My comment is very close to the end of Day 2 but it did take a while to type all this out! Most of my suspicions reflect what has already been said toDay but here is my view of things.

    At the moment I am most suspicious of Dana. It really seems like Dana tried to save Nicole by voting for Kara and creating a tie. However, once she saw that Nicole was about to be lynched anyways (votes at 7 vs. 6 with about a minute to go), I think Dana didn’t want to be associated with trying to save a Mafia member, so she switches her vote. Dana has mentioned that she saw my comment which created a tie, but not Megan Rose’s comment even though we both posted at the same minute. This could be the truth since EOD was pretty chaotic but it still seems like a very convenient excuse (especially since Dana didn’t post a longer comment which may have stopped her from seeing the tie being broken).

    Also, Dana’s only reason for voting Kara was gaining information, which, like Jeann mentioned, isn’t the most sound logic since anyone’s lynching would provide information. As a result, I’m going to

    VOTE DANA

    Amber B is also very suspicious because she changed her vote from Kara to Jenn when Kara was leading with 5 votes. Her reasoning:

    ‘She’s been under the radar and the comment about forgetting about the game due to her cat seems so weird to me right now.’

    seems very shaky. It seems like Amber is a mafia player who knew Kara was not mafia, and thought that she would likely be voted off anyway, and didn’t want to be suspicious for bandwagoning (since she didn’t particularly have much evidence against Kara and was the 5th person to vote for her).

    The people who have aligned themselves with a town group:

    Meeghan: seems to be Ark
    Kara: seems to be Grounder
    Anne: seems to be 100

    I don’t have any thoughts about other players at this point but i’ll go through comments later and see if anything stands out to me.

  129. I said I would check in again, and I’ve read all the comments since my last post. Good to see mostly everyone check in.

    One question though — Megan Rose = Megan? This keeps tripping me up, especially now that Megan is on the board. That refers to Maria’s vote for Megan Rose?

    And I’m always nervous when a train starts rolling, but I do still feel suspicious of Dana so my vote still stands. 🚂 🤷🏼‍♀️

  130. @Harker I think the random first vote and being a first to vote someone because you’re sus of them are very different. Jeann was first to vote for Nicole, who we know to be mafia, after voicing her suspicions. I don’t find that very mafia like behavior. But it’s always a possibility that a random first vote was for a mafia teammate since it’s not expected to stay through the end of the game.

    It looks like I’m going home at this point. I’m not a bad guy, just terrible at attempts at analyzing which is why I prefer not to. But I tried.

  131. @Greg – you bring up the times Lexa of the Grounders “betrayed” the 100 and her people but fail to mention that in Season 3 she and the Grounders alley themselves with the 100 and the Ark crew, making them the 13th clan and vows to protect them. Early on in the first few seasons Lexa is depicted as an antagonist but the further it goes she is definitely an alley of the 100, and Clarke specifically.

    @Meeghan you mention that you have some suspicions of me (and others) in a post, and then in your later post vote for Dana, while spending a lot of time trying to draw correlations between Dana and I when there are none. I mentioned, and players that have played with me in previous editions can confirm, my Day 1 has always been random. I watched you all going back and forth but didn’t feel any strong suspicions at the end of Day 1 because we had no facts confirmed.

    Once Day 1 was over and Nicole was voted off and announced as Mafia I feel more confident analyzing things and drawing suspicions. I am intrigued by who voted for Kara instead of Nicole – Nicole, Greg, Amber G., Meeghan, Kerrie. Once I had those facts I went back through Day 1 comments and drew conclusions. It seems some of them might be a part of Mafia. I also think it’s important to keep in mind players that vote-switched late in the Day 1, and wait to see if something similar happens toDay.

    Lastly, @Meeghan in reference to you mentioning that I brought up that Reapers are “definitely” in seasons 1-3 of the show, I did so because they are 😅 Not sure what else to say about that. I didn’t align Reapers to Grounders though – if Mt. Weather doesn’t capture the Grounders and turn them into Reapers they wouldn’t even exist. Grounders have nothing to do with Reapers, other than to be unlucky in getting captured and turned into the zombie-esque Reapers by Mt. Weather.

  132. @Anne

    One question though — Megan Rose = Megan? This keeps tripping me up, especially now that Megan is on the board. That refers to Maria’s vote for Megan Rose?

    Yeah, Megan Rose is the username for Megan, as Dana Jan is the username for Dana, and madhatterisreading is the username for Maria, Amber (YA Indulgences) is the username for Amber B, etc.

  133. Hmm I have some additional food for thought for everyone as I think this is something which hasn’t really been analysed throughout D2.

    @Kerys said:

    Nicole is on the board for voting Kara even though she seems genuine. However, since Nicole hasn’t checked in since making her vote, she hasn’t really had the chance to clear her name.

    Kerys was also one to tie me and Nicole towards the very end of D1.

    I’m sorry to tie this but

    CANCEL VOTE

    VOTE NICOLE

    Her explanation at the start of D2 was that she wanted to keep me in the game longer, Nicole seemed less important, and she didn’t’t actually know what the result of tying would would be.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy for the support and for staying in the game, but at the same time, this change happened with only a few seconds left till the day was over. This would have effectively tied us had there been no more votes in the hectic last few seconds, and resulted in no-one being lynched and us being none the wiser. So could this have been an attempt to save someone on her team at the very last moment? After all, we would not have known that Nicole was mafia had we ended on a tie…

    Just some musings as I decide whom to cast my vote for.

  134. BG 2 Comments:
    Okay so I completely overslept this morning and now there’s not much time to go.

    @ Jeann – My suspicions are very up in the air right now. I do think that Meeghan brought up an interesting correlation between Dana, Megan and Kara as using the word glean. This was something I had noticed before too and saw that it had been mentioned on D1. Although Megan and Dana had both been involved in the very last minute voting from D1 as well.

    I really need to get a vote down so I am going to

    VOTE DANA

    Like with a previous game, I’m always a bit skeptical of super surprised comments so this initial comment by Dana stuck out

    “Second, WE GOT OUT A MAFIA MEMBER! I’m so glad that things ended as they did and it worked in our favor!”

    I know Maria, Megan, and Beth also made similar comments.

    Combined that with the gleaning comment and the last minute voting changes from yesterDay, this is going to be my vote.

  135. @Maria

    Why tho? You’re so into that not to trust non grounders that you voted for Greg right away and then to Anna due to your suspicious. Just want to know the sudden change

    Yes, I did initially vote for Greg, but that was because he was putting up the biggest fight to the idea of Grounders being good. A lot has happened since then, and I already clarified during the end of D1 that I started finding Greg less suspicious than other players at the time.
    However, I never once voted for Anna, so the information you are quoting is not correct.

  136. @Kara – yeah I guess it could seem that way. However, Dana also created a tie and noticed it 7 minutes before EOD. I find it very interesting that she didn’t cancel her vote then, but rather waited until I created another tie, to switch her vote to Nicole.

  137. Gah, I’ve had barely any time today and now we’re almost at the end of the Day.

    To quickly address the Greg stuff, @Greg like I said in my post about you, I was literally making the post in order to make the connection between you and Nicole as a possible lead. Nicole’s comments yesterDay didn’t give much away so I wanted to explore you as an option as she mentioned you a couple of times.

    As far as listing the Grounders, well… just trying to be helpful. and fill the void in Day One commenting, as there’s always so little to go on. I also noted 100/Ark possibilities as well.

    But you didn’t list Mt Weather possibilities.

    I mean, I know there’s other things mentioned but it feels a bit like grasping at straws.

    Well yeah, it’s Day 2. We don’t have a lot to go on yet. And my post was about making the connection between you and Nicole so as I said, I was making any possible connection I could.

    Additionally, you’ve been around to defend yourself but not to point out or explain any of your own theories or suspicions.

    @Beth (I’m sorry I only skimmed your comment but I saw my name here)

    Maybe Anna and Amber G are on the same team, subtly pointing toward Jenn’s death being a mistake made by a Town faction, to take attention off any accurate conclusions being drawn from Jenn’s death?

    Nah I said at the start of toDay that I think Jenn’s death was probably Mafia, and they chose Jenn because she wasn’t around much. My post is below (which was followed by a post about Jenn’s comments in case anyone could take anything from them):

    Re. Jenn being killed off, I’m not sure if it was a strategic Mafia Kill or if they just went for someone who was a bit quiet. Maybe they knew we wouldn’t have much to go off if she died since she was absent for much of the Day? I’ll go back and look at Jenn’s comments later to see if anything pops out.

    I was considering waiting a bit longer to vote to see if anything else happens or comes to light. Dana is sus to me because of the voting fiasco, and I’m not sure I want the debate about that going on another Day. I’ve got my eye on Greg because of the reasons I’ve already listed, but really that’s just a vague potential lead rather than anything concrete. I think I’ll probably be back in 45 mins to see what’s going on.

  138. For now I’m going to

    VOTE MEGAN

    Of the 3 people I expressed any suspicions of, she’s the one I’m most sus of and the only one with a vote on the board.

  139. I think I am missing something in regards to the word “glean”… I really don’t understand the fascination with it?

    Literally the definition of the word is:

    glean
    /ɡliːn/
    verb
    obtain (information) from various sources, often with difficulty.

    Can someone please explain to me why the use of this word as opposed to gather is suspicious? I find it a more adept description of what we are doing here…

  140. In fact, I want a vote on the board. I don’t want to risk any ties and since I’ve been suspicious of her anyway

    VOTE DANA

    I’m not sure anything else of note will happen in the last hour or so.

  141. @Kara: My guess is that “glean” is a reference to the Scythe edition of BG. In the book “glean” was used in place of “kill”.

    I gave my reason for not voting in d1. For the same reason today…..

    VOTE:NOT TO VOTE

  142. Dang ya’ll there were like 60 comments when I went to bed last night, now there are 174!!!

    Okay, I’ve done my best to catch up and while I hold suspicions for Megan and Dana, Siran’s decision not to vote two days in a row screams Mafia to me.

    VOTE SIRAN

  143. @Kara you said

     So could this have been an attempt to save someone on her team at the very last moment? After all, we would not have known that Nicole was mafia had we ended on a tie…

    Forgive me being dense…this would mean that on D1 at least one person voting for you was Mafia, or would mean at least one person voting for Nicole was Mafia? Or neither (and it was solely to block us getting info about Nicole)?
    I haven’t found Kerys very suspicious at this point, but I hadn’t considered causing a tie to be a move that obscures information, as opposed to a move that protects a teammate. The only other thing I can think of about Kery’s behavior being suspicious is that she said she didn’t know a tie would result in no elimination, when the mods said (at -10 min):

    10 minutes to go! If a tie occurs, there will be no elimination.

    (and she’s a veteran player of TBG). So now that’s making me question her voting behavior more….

  144. Voting Update:

    Dana (7) — Anne, Harker, Beth, Meeghan, Kerys, Amber B, Amber G
    Greg (1) — Shannon
    Amber B. (1) — Jeann
    Siran (2) — Anna, Kerrie
    Megan (2) — Maria, Dana

    Not voting: Greg, Megan, Kara, Siran

    50 minutes to go!

  145. @Beth
    For my hypothesis about Kerys I went with the hypothetical option of Kerys is mafia and switched her vote from Harker to Nicole with less than a minute to go before EOD to ensure that there was a tie and no-one was lynched that day. As this would allow for two things:
    1. Nicole (mafia) would have been saved and
    2. I would have been saved and thus the whole discussion of whether Grounders are good or not would be still a much larger topic today, given we would not know that Nicole was mafia.
    So yes, based on that hypothesis, it could have been a move to obstruct information.

  146. As I am trying to decide on my vote I have also noticed that Amber B. has not yet met the comment minimum and has not yet addressed many of the allegations against her…

  147. I gave my reason for not voting in d1. For the same reason today…..

    VOTE:NOT TO VOTE

    I mean, this is allowed, but not voting is really not helpful for the Town. Do you not have any theories or comments to refer back to? What about the EOD1 voting situation?

  148. Thanks for clarifying, Kara!
    It makes sense, but I feel like we’d need a secondary data point to more accurately prove/disprove the theory, so for now I’m gonna keep it on the backburner in my mind.

  149. @Kara:
    Sorry not voting for Anna just remembered you mentioned you were suspicious of her (Anna) too. Sorry if it’s confusing; might be too sleepy just now

    Siran Not to vote decision is quite weird; could it hve something to do with her role or could it be today a result of the night action…

  150. Ok, not voting for two days in a row might be technically allowed, but it is not something I find very helpful, and given that Siran has not been theorising one way or the other and said following:

    Unfortunately, I believe that there could be mafia and town mixed on the 100, the Ark and Grounders.

    and cancelled her vote for Meeghan as soon as she was pressed on her reasoning, I am going to

    VOTE SIRAN

    for now, as I desperately try to figure out whether I want to vote for Dana or one of the Ambers 🤔

  151. @Maria I doubt it’s a night action thing, she has a tendency to not vote when she has no real conviction about who to vote out.

    Personally, as I said earlier, I don’t like it. It’s our duty to vote out the bad guys and the only way to attempt that is to vote.

  152. Voting Update:

    Dana (7) — Anne, Harker, Beth, Meeghan, Kerys, Amber B, Amber G
    Greg (1) — Shannon
    Amber B. (1) — Jeann
    Siran (3) — Anna, Kerrie, Kara
    Megan (2) — Maria, Dana

    Not voting: Greg, Megan, Siran

    24 minutes left!

  153. @Beth okay that does look kinda sus but I honestly remember very little from my previous games and I didn’t see that part of the mod comment because I was actually watching a movie with my family (Back to the Future 2!) and just skimming the comments to see what the votes were at.

    Also in reference to Siran’s non-voting behavior, could she be a jester and intentionally trying to be lynched?

  154. Maria:

    Siran Not to vote decision is quite weird; could it hve something to do with her role or could it be today a result of the night action…

    It is theoretically possible. I mean, there is a role that would fit this scenario, I think, but as Dana said, this does also line up with Siran’s play style from what I remember of past games so really it could be either or.

  155. Kerys:

    Also in reference to Siran’s non-voting behavior, could she be a jester and intentionally trying to be lynched?

    Potentially? The non-voting thing two Days in a row is sure to ruffle feathers. I also wondered if she might be been Stumped or something, though she did cast/cancel a vote earlier toDay so I’m not sure if that is allowable under that Role rules.

  156. @Kerys

    Also in reference to Siran’s non-voting behavior, could she be a jester and intentionally trying to be lynched?

    I believe that is EXACTLY what people thought in Siran’s last game (not enough time to look that up before I post this). She ended up being lynched D1 and it turned out she was Town. So I’m pretty certain this is just Siran’s usual play style rubbing people the wrong way.

  157. Hmm I am personally not yet convinced that Dana is mafia despite the inconsistency in her voting. Maybe I am too gullible, but I am inclined to believe her for now and so looked into the voting patterns.

    Out of the players who did NOT vote for Nicole, the following players are now voting for Dana: Anne, Meeghan, Amber B and Amber G.
    Kerys was a last minute switch to Nicole.

    I can’t shake the feeling that at least one of the people who did not vote Nicole and are now voting Dana must be mafia.

  158. At this point I’m most sus of Dana and Amber B, but Dana is the only one really with major votes on the board so I’m gonna

    VOTE DANA

    Trying to finish up my justification comment but just wanted this out there in case I get it up late.

  159. I’m caught up on comments but the time I’ve had for in depth analysis, let alone combing back through D1 comments, has been pretty minimal, just due to RL stuff. Not the kind of D2 I wanted to have, but couldn’t be helped… so I’m having an issue placing my vote. I have vague suspicions, the D1 vote changing is an issue for me like it is for others, but I’m not sure it’s enough- I mean, I had the same issue end of D1 trying to catch up on comments so I’m sympathetic to that position. Not sure…

  160. Voting Update:

    Dana (8) — Anne, Harker, Beth, Meeghan, Kerys, Amber B, Amber G, Megan
    Greg (1) — Shannon
    Amber B. (1) — Jeann
    Siran (3) — Anna, Kerrie, Kara
    Megan (2) — Maria, Dana

    Not voting: Greg, Siran

    10 minutes to go!

    @Beth: Grabbed your post from the spam folder!

  161. @Harker

    But perhaps not the ability to keep it? It’s hard to tell because, like you said, Siran has a certain style.

    Do you think her apology was to the mods, for placing a vote (or keeping it for x period of time), when some restriction should’ve made that not happen?

  162. Voting Update:

    Dana (8) — Anne, Harker, Beth, Meeghan, Kerys, Amber B, Amber G, Megan
    Greg (1) — Shannon
    Amber B. (1) — Jeann
    Siran (4) — Anna, Kerrie, Kara, Dana
    Megan (1) — Maria

    Not voting: Greg, Siran

    5 minutes!

  163. I’m not sure. It was cancelled roughly within an hour of being placed and I don’t think she replied when I asked what she was sorry for. What she said was:

    @harker: I was hoping I would be able to do a better job at analyzing player comments. Since I couldn’t, it would have been unfair to vote for anyone.

    That doesn’t quite read like an explanation so…🤷‍♂️

  164. I thought so too @Kerys.

    And good grief I’m doing the same thing- not voting- which I normally hate! But it’s not gonna matter at this point. Sorry

  165. @Kara you said

    and cancelled her vote for Meeghan as soon as she was pressed on her reasoning,

    But Siran cancelled her vote for Meeghan Jan 24 4:23am
    She made the comment you quoted AFTER that, Jan 24 2:34pm, and explained her reasoning at 2:49pm.

    Do you have another reason for voting for her?

  166. Siran voting for lack of activity is sus seeing as they’ve not really made a lot of helpful comments either. I don’t believe Meeghan not making a comment is suspicious, only that she is either busy or it being a possible result of the previous night action. The flip flopping is a bit sus. But then again, this is how she’s played before. Very quiet, not many comments or analysis. So tbh it’s not out of the ordinary for her so I don’t know what to think.

    @Meeghan Also I thought I made it clear with my comments yesterday and today, but perhaps I didn’t. I’m calling there being a faction of the 100 and it being Town, because I have info that says so. I am a member. So anyone today saying only the Ark is a group, seems sus to me as well. Not saying you are though. But in terms of suspicion, I understand why people are sus of me from my EOD actions, but this line of reasoning doesn’t really make sense. I feel like I was the first to say I think Town is the 100. Which is kind of what Kara did for the Grounders and that also seems to be kind of forgotten.

    I’ve seen Jeann, Shannon and Harker all bring up points about Amber and I have to say they’re making a lot of sense. She was suspicious of Kara mainly but changed her vote for someone barely on the board and would make no difference to the outcome; it was super unlikely that Jenn was going to end up being voted out. It was a close call and could have gone either way so why not keep your vote and hope that you were correct?

    Same again for Dana, more suspicious of Kara yet changed to Nicole. It was a close call so why not keep the vote for who you actually believed in? Trying to hedge your bets in case there were changing votes in the end that would reveal things? First creating a tie to possibly save a teammate and then joining bandwagon to help your case the following day?

  167. Day Two has officially ended. The person with the most votes (8) is Dana. Dana was John Murphy, Team Murphy, Survivor, Framer, 1x Scavenger.

    It is now Night Two. If you have a special role that involves a Night action, please submit the form by Tuesday 7pm GMT (48 hours from now, but honestly the sooner the better). The form can be found by clicking the “Current Game” link in the menu and scrolling to the bottom of the page.

    We also have another Night Event for you, with spoils to be gained or penalties to be suffered — o, what fun! ToNight’s Event goes a little something like this:

    A scary looking fog that feels (and is, frankly) acid has descended upon your group. It burned a lad beyond recognition, and it is heading your way, and it runs faster than you. How shall you handle this dire situation?

    If you’d like to enter, fill in the Night Action form with your response to our question. We’ll then randomly choose a winner (or loser).

    Day Three will start on Wednesday 7pm GMT. Any additional casualties will be revealed at that time. Good luck!

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