The 100: Day One

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The Players

  1. Harker @thehermitlibrarian (they/them)
  2. Jeann @happyindulgence (she/her)
  3. Beth @ArtemisHi (she/her)
  4. Amber B @YAIndulgences (she/her)
  5. Meeghan @ Meeghan Reads (she/her)
  6. Siran @ToukhanianSiran (she/her)
  7. Greg @GregsBookHaven (he/him)
  8. Jenn @bookish_ginger (she/her)
  9. Shannon W @tibbs10 (she/her)
  10. Kara @ Dalliant Thoughts (she/her)
  11. Dana @DanaBartelt (she/her)
  12. Megan @Megan_Roze (she/her)
  13. Maria @mhisreading (she/her)
  14. Anna @AnnaJJacobson1 (she/her)
  15. Amber G @ Books of Amber (she/her)
  16. Nicole @tardigradeTay (she/her)
  17. Kerrie @lovekerrie (she/her)
  18. Anne @amengelhart (she/her)
  19. Kerys @ The Everlasting Library (she/her)

Game Master’s Notes

Welcome to Day One of The Bookish Games: The 100. Over the next few weeks, you’ll be working towards achieving your goals, slowly eliminating one another while navigating the twists built into this game. We hope you’ll love what we have in store for you. This is our fifteenth edition, and I’m working with a co-host who loves The Hunger Games and The 100, so… consider this a kind of Quarter Quell. May the odds be ever in your favour. 😉

Before we begin, a few notes and reminders:

  • Please make sure you have read your Role email prior to commenting in the game.  (That first comment requirement is still in effect for this edition. Hint hint.)
  • It is also assumed by now that you have read and agreed to The Rules. Any violation of the rules will result in a warning, followed by a disqualification. (Don’t forget, you can get a pass if there’s a certain week you need to be excused from the participation rule. Just contact us!)
  • It is only Day One so there’s not much to work with yet. Our main advice is just to have fun and vote however you want in the beginning. Even if Day One ends with you murdering a teammate (oops), you will still learn a lot of valuable information by observing how the other players react and vote.
  • Player pronouns are listed next to player names on the Current Game page as well as on the player graphic. Please do your best to use a player’s correct pronouns when referencing them.
  • When voting, please type your vote in ALL CAPS and on a separate line from the rest of your text so it is easy for Shannon and me to spot. Votes are not final until the deadline, so you can choose to switch who you vote for throughout the Day. You can also choose not to vote. Votes can be canceled anytime by commenting CANCEL VOTE.
  • There is no option to “reply” to other comments on this blog. This is to ensure that all comments appear in chronological order. If you want to respond directly to someone else’s comment, we recommend starting your message with “@PlayerName:”.
  • We are currently using Greenwich Mean Time for game deadlines. A countdown has been added to the blog menu to assist players in knowing how much time they have left to vote. The countdown will switch from “x days” to “x hours” once below the 24 hour mark. (You can also use this link to see when the deadline occurs at your local time, just add your location and it’ll do the math for you)

As always, don’t be afraid to contact us if you have any questions or just want to chat in private about what’s going on during the Game. We are here to help and want to make this as fun of an experience as possible! If it’s urgent, keep our time zones in mind: Inge lives on CEST (GMT/UTC+1) and Shannon on ET (GMT/UTC-5).

It is now Day One.

You have until Sunday 7pm GMT to discuss suspicions and cast your votes. Once the deadline has been reached, the person with the most votes will be eliminated.

Good luck!

273 thoughts on “The 100: Day One”

  1. Hi all, I’m Kara! Nice to meet you.

    In anticipation of the upcoming bloodbath and array of essays to follow, I will keep this sweet and short.

    VOTE: AMBER B.

    ‘Cause there are two players with the name and this isn’t the Bachelor 😉

  2. YAY! I was definitely refreshing the page waiting for this post to appear haha. Happy Day One everyone!

    I was gonna vote for Amber B because it would be simpler if there’s only one of us but Kara got there first and now I feel bad so

    VOTE KARA

    for beating me to it 😂

  3. Now Amber G, you see, this is HIGHLY suspicious, as now I believe you and Amber B. to be in cahoots, since you jumped on the chance to “not” vote for her and used me as a cover. 😛

  4. Hello! 👋
    Ooh I’m excited but nervous for this round! Hunger games meets the 100 sounds like a bloodbath.

    VOTE KERYS

    Because I’m about to read A Sky Beyond the Storm and your name reminds me of Keris Veturia (sorry lol)

  5. Hi all! Happy day one and yay good to be back for another edition, thanks Inge and Shannon for putting this together!

    Hope everyone has been faring ok with the pandemic situation and all.

    VOTE JENN

    Because people always get our names confused 😂

  6. Hello, beautiful people! It’s great to see so many of you again, as well as some new faces. Wheee!

    I’m also voting to winnow out the confusing crossover or intensely similar names, which is why I…

    VOTE AMBER G

    (and thank you for updating your profile so it’s easier to differentiate between the Ambers) 🙂

  7. Happy Bookish Games all ! So excited to be playing again.

    VOTE: MEEGHAN

    only because her name was before mine on the signup post. It will most likely change sometime in the day

  8. Hi all!!
    So lovely to be back again, and I share Beth’s sentiment that it’s so nice to see some new faces!! If only we could get more diversity with our names!! 😂
    I’m going to apologise in advance in case I mess up Jeann and Jenn, Anne and Anna, Amber B and Amber G, and probably even Kerrie and Kerys… I fully anticipate being mixed up with Megan too!!

    VOTE JEANN

    Because it’s always fun to vote your friends and fellow Aussie’s. Speaking of, Jeann have you done the maths? Is end of Day at 4am or 6am for us??

  9. Hi all! Very excited to be playing again!

    VOTE ANNA

    Because I like the number 14 and you’re 14th on the list.

  10. Hi everyone, I’m excited to be playing again. I almost was going to spectate this round but then thought why not and joined up to play.

    VOTE GREG

    Just because and I don’t feel like you have been voted for yet.

  11. Howdy fellow murder enthusiasts. Tis the season for suspicion once again! Muah ha ha.

    Hope everyone is faring well all things considered. Been one crazy and scary world since our last games. I’m glad to see so many people returning, I love this little community. Happy I decided to sign up after all.

    Going to

    VOTE MEEGHAN

    Soz pal, there can be only one Megan variation! Haha 😂

  12. Hey all! Welcome to everyone new- and nice to see the veterans back! This should be fun. So… I wonder- are we on the ground, and who will the baddies be? Grounders, Reapers, Mt Weather…??

    VOTE Kara

    I just picked randomly and she was the first commenter. 🙂

  13. @Greg: that’s a good question. I don’t know much about the series. I read the first book ages ago and haven’t watched it yet, but from what I remember there’s the 100 (kids pitched to “Earth”/Earth) and another group on the surface? 🤔 That was at, like, the very end of book one though so who knows. 😅

  14. CANCEL VOTE

    @Greg
    I started rewatching S1 of the 100 once I signed because it’s been awhile I didn’t remember much. I think the grounders and members of Mt. Weather could both work as mafia for enemies of the 100 and the people from the Arc that is.

    There is so much potential for a bloodbath in the 100.

  15. CANCEL VOTE

    I’ve only seen the first few episodes, so I will not be much help speculating roles and characters.

  16. @Anna I just started re-watching The 100, too! I’m up to the middle-ish of S3. I gotta say, I’m picking up far more doing a binge re-watch than I did the first time around, and kinda digging it.

    But you’re right- there’s a LOT of killing. There’s also (I think) the potential for independent anti-Town roles (like maybe Murphy…although the obvious choice for that role is Survivor, which isn’t necessarily anti-Town).

  17. CANCEL VOTE

    @Beth: what’s funny is, when we played Scythe, we assumed there would be a lot of killing then and it went all pear shaped because of one thing and another. I wonder what Shannon and Inge have plotted for us now. 😱

  18. Hello everyone!
    It’s still early here and I just woke up
    But for the sake of everything.

    VOTE HARKER

    Cause they vote for me 🤣

    Going back to sleep cause it’s my day off and will properly read everything 🙈

    And hey yay I joined again cause this game is addicting 😂

  19. @Anna “There is so much potential for a bloodbath in the 100.” SO TRUE. And I think you’re right. There are so many possible factions. I’m assuming the 100 kids and the Ark people are the “good” guys, although judging from the show not everyone on the Ark is a good guy! Haven’t read the book…

    And @Harker- same! The kids hit the surface and are presumably the “good” guys, while the Grounders are initially hostile, although that… changes. For some of them anyways.

  20. Hey everyone! I hope you all are as well as can be given the current state of the world and…*gestures wildly* all of this going on.

    I’m pretty excited for the game to begin to distract me from everything else, and bring fun and confusion to spice things up!

    I’m going to

    VOTE DANA

    at this point, solely because she voted for me and there’s no real thing to go on at this point in the day (sorry!)

  21. Sorry, haven’t used word press since the last game and before I got married. It’s Shannon W., I’ll go update my account!

  22. Voting Update:

    Harker (2) — Anne, Maria
    Meeghan (2) — Megan, Siran
    Kara (2) — Amber G., Kerys
    Jeann (1) – Meeghan
    Amber B (1)- Kara
    Jenn (1)- Jeann
    Dana (1)- Shannon
    Kerys (1)- Kerrie
    Shannon (1)- Dana

    Not voting: Greg, Amber B., Beth, Harker, Anna, Nicole, Jenn

    P.S. This is my first voting update ever so… hopefully I got it right (I triple checked, anyway). Also so wonderful to see almost everyone checking in and participating and such! This makes my heart happy!

  23. I only notice some of the names from previous games so again hello everyone!

    @beth: Thanks for pointing it out. I forgot to introduce that madhatterisreading = Maria

    🤣

    Also now I have more reasons to watch 100 now

    CANCEL VOTE btw!

  24. I was mildly obsessed with the first few seasons of the show (TEAM BELLARKE), so hopefully I can help if we start dissecting it. You’re all right, there are so many possibilities for bad guys/Mafia 😑

    I guess if we’re looking at S1-3, Grounders would be bad to start but then become allies. Mt Weather was pretty bad all along, and the Dealers are obvs dangerous all the time. Maybe there’s a combination of the three?

    I’m going to CANCEL VOTE as my first one was a bit pointless.

  25. I’m gonna

    CANCEL VOTE

    At this point. Let’s have some discussion.

    I feel like since it says in Inge’s our game masters little notes above, ‘achieving your goals’, that there’s gonna be a bit more to these games than just finding the bad guys. Also could there be more than one team of bad guys if you’re all talking about a lot of possibilities?

    Wonder if we’re all spread a little thin over different groups….

    Also I have t watched the series and doubt I will after how much twitter hated the final season. I hate when things end bad.

  26. Ooh good catch Megan about the “goals”.

    The show is really good notwithstanding the issues w/ the final season. I’m glad the mods are focusing on seasons 1-3 since the first few are awesome. 🙂

  27. @Megan Rose: I took some time this morning to check out the Wikipedia on the show and you might have something there re: different groups/spread out/etc. I mean, generally there are a couple groups, but in this property specifically there are more than the usual choices.

    Aside from The 100 from the Ark, the Wiki says they encounter:

    the grounders, who live in clans locked in a power struggle; The Mountain Men, who live in Mount Weather, descended from those who locked themselves away before the apocalypse; and the Reapers, another group of grounders who have been turned into cannibals by the Mountain Men.

    Also, can someone tell me if A.L.I.E. is someone/thing we should worry about? A.I. in media always get the short stick so not having seen it I’m not sure how this version is portrayed.

  28. @Maria True it is very addicting

    @Amber B True I think more than any good guys its just people mostly trying their best to survive in The 100.

    @Megan I believe for this game you could only watch the 1st 3 seasons if you want.

    I didn’t think anything of ‘achieving your goals’. I assumed that it just meant that the townies try to survive and the the anti-town trying to kill off the townies as well as well as outlive them. The usual sort of thing.

    Then again who knows. The more I think about it the more I realise how much potential there is for more than one anti-town team. I’m wondering if the grounders start off as anti-town, maybe certain goals we aren’t aware of could be met and they create a ‘ fragile alliance’ with the town. I really don’t know just running with some thoughts about the possibilities.

    @Harker I forgot about A.L.I.E. I think from memory she could be a problem for the town. But I can’t remember the exact details. I haven’t gotten far enough on my rewatch yet.

  29. Hmm, has it happened before that there are more than one good/evil groups other than the occasional solo player?

    The 100 is a mindfuck from start to finish. And I agree with Amber B… if the show taught us anything (despite the horrid ending) is that there truly are no inherent good guys, it’s all grey (apart from Bellamy, duh) and alliances shift constantly. I think it’s important to keep that in mind and consider it as a possibility.

    That being said, suspicions are starting to creep in for specific players for me. So I will

    CANCEL VOTE

    and will

    VOTE GREG

    for now, though one more player has caught my attention and my vote might change. Will go into my reasoning after work.

    I hope to also hear more from players laying low till then.

  30. I’ve watched the shown very recently, solely for the purpose of this game haha….

    I think the Mount Weather group would definitely be bad guys, and I’m very worried if Acid Fog will come into play! I sure hope not, because it killed a few people in the show before the 100 figured out how to avoid it.

    Mount Weather also made The Reapers by capturing Grounders and getting them addicted to drugs and conditioning them to be controlled by the sound/light fixture. Then they’d let the Reapers loose to go kill people.

    Here’s to hoping we can stay away from them both!!

  31. @Kara:

    1. To answer your question, there have been many configurations besides one good/bad Town/Mafia. Off the top of my head, there was one round where there was no Mafia, at least one where there were multiple Mafia (I think that was the Chaos Walking game which I didn’t play, just glanced at), and the first BYOC game which was packed with Mafia/Town/Cult/AND and Arsonist who was on their own if memory serves 😬. It was nuts.

    2. What lead you to vote for Greg? You mentioned detailing your suspicions for someone else as well later; could you include this too please?

  32. I’d forgotten about ALIE. She showed up at the end of Season 2, so it’s entirely possible she’s about. She’d probably be third party as she wasn’t allied with anyone, she was going all out to save mankind. She got into people’s heads as a hologram/hallucination.

    @ Harker, correct, the Chaos Walking game had two sets of Mafia and one lot of Town. I can’t remember if there were any third parties in that one. They were all battling against each other, so there weren’t any alliances.

    @ Kara, “Vote Greg for now, though one more player has caught my attention and my vote might change. Will go into my reasoning after work.” This is… vague. Is there a reason you wanted to vote for Greg so quickly that it couldn’t wait until after work?

    I’ll figure out how to use quotes for my next comment!

  33. I have only seen the first two seasons of the 100, but I think I generally know what happened in season 3? I should go look that up and refresh at some point here. Already so much speculative chat.

    I was really only there for Linktavia, and well… 😭

  34. I’m a day late checking in D: I had a migraine and went to bed early last night.

    VOTE: ANNE, just because she is the comment before me 🙂

  35. @Harker: The BYOC is that the one I joined for the first time with the button thing? 😂 Speaking of, wonder if we will have something like that again. Lol!

    @Kara: I’m quite curious why you vote for Greg out of nowhere and as mentioned by Amber G that you can’t wait after work? And who’s the other player? Could you explain more?

    @Amber G: Oh my! The quote thing I forgot too, I think you have to use the
    ? Not sure 😂 I’ll have to check again 🤣

  36. @Shannon “I’m very worried if Acid Fog will come into play”
    OMG I hope not! I didn’t even think about that, but you’re right that it could be a way to kill us en masse (I can think of two previous games where there was a weapon in play that killed en masse and it was terrifying).

    @Harker “Also, can someone tell me if A.L.I.E. is someone/thing we should worry about?”
    A.L.I.E. shows up a lot in S3, so maybe. I hope this doesn’t spoil anything, but she’s portrayed as most powerful A.I.s in media are (autonomous, nearly omnipotent, but lacking all empathy and therefore able to commit terrible acts “for the good of all”). Thanks for bringing this up- I hadn’t considered it!

    @Kara “Hmm, has it happened before that there are more than one good/evil groups other than the occasional solo player?”
    Yes, it has. In the Chaos Walking game, we had two anti-town teams (Team Prentiss and Team Spackle). And in the ADSOM game, we had 4 teams representing the 4 Londons (each had at least 2 people on them, if memory serves…which it might not, since my role was Insane Mailman in that game 😀 ).
    I’m looking forward to seeing your thought process about your suspicions on Greg (in several hours, I’m guessing).

    All this talk about Grounders becoming allies, but Ice Nation were consistently enemies of the Ark folks (and everyone else, seems like) so I wouldn’t rule them out as an anti-Town group. And I think y’all are right- it makes sense there would be more than one anti-Town team, or an anti-Town team and at least one anti-Town role.
    And of course, this is The 100. People die left, right, and center throughout the show (honestly, the first 2 seasons alone it’s more like “The 18 and Those Other Expendable People”).

    @Anne “I was really only there for Linktavia, and well”
    I’ve had to pause my rewatch because my next episode is the end of that…and I am not ready. 😦

    @Jenn I hope you feel better today!

    Also, big props to us all for showing up, voting, meeting the comment minimum (if that’s still a thing?), and even starting to speculate game setup and have suspicions….at less than 24 hours into D1. That’s gotta be some kind of record. 😀

  37. @Maria, I can’t see what you were typing there but I figured out the blockquotes XD You do (blockquote) text (/blockquote) but with the < arrows instead of brackets.

    @Anne

    I was really only there for Linktavia, and well

    *sobs* I hear ya.

    @Jenn I hope you are feeling better! Glad to have you with us.

    @Beth

    big props to us all for showing up, voting, meeting the comment minimum (if that’s still a thing?), and even starting to speculate game setup and have suspicions….at less than 24 hours into D1. That’s gotta be some kind of record.

    We’re doing great! Also, I didn’t consider Ice Nation either. Gah! I’m going to make a list of potential characters and alliances if toDay stays uneventful.

  38. Thanks, Amber G!
    If anyone is confused, search basic HTML for blockquotes and you’ll see what she means about the text stuff. 🙂

  39. Voting Update:

    Harker (1) — Anne
    Meeghan (1) — Siran
    Jeann (1) — Meeghan
    Jenn (1) — Jeann
    Dana (1) — Shannon
    Kerys (1) — Kerrie
    Shannon (1) — Dana
    Anne (1) — Jenn
    Greg (1) — Kara

    Not voting: Greg, Amber B, Beth, Harker, Anna, Nicole, Maria, Megan, Amber G, Kerys

    Also, yay for everyone checking in!

    @ Amber G: Fixed your blockquote!
    And I deleted Maria’s blockquote mess-up per her request.

  40. I’m going to

    CANCEL VOTE

    I’ve only watched 3 episodes of the show and am trying to absorb everything you all are saying about it!

  41. @Dana I’m with you. All these speculations are over my head and a bit worrisome. It sounds like there are a lot of factions in the 100 that I did not pick up on in the first few episodes.

    @Kara I’m also interested to hear your suspicions of Greg and others (?). I’m not suspicious of anyone yet this early in the game.

  42. Wow, Beth’s right, this must be some kind of record! Usually day 1 is pretty chill, but here we are with specs already!

    @Kara, parroting everyone else here, I too am curious why you voted for greg. Also, I hope you had a good day at work!

    It’s been a while since I watched the 100, but ya’ll have come up with some good game set up theories! Amber G pointed out that A.L.I.E. caused people to hallucinate, and now I’m wondering if someone out there can mess with night action results? Also, Shannon W pointed out that in the show Mt. Weather created reapers out of grounders, so I wonder too if there might be a some kind of cult-recruitment element?

    @Harker, omg the emoji day 😂 😂 😂 ahhhhh good times

    @Maria, I’d be surprised if the mods didn’t try to include something similar to the button, that was wild last round.

    Also, what’s everyone’s time zone? Kara was mentioning some players flying under the radar, and I know we’re pretty spread out, so I thought it might be good to refresh everyone’s memory as to where we’re located to help identify if someone is being quiet or just sleeping cuz of time differences

  43. I’m East Coast! (and not a morning person, so if you’re in the UK don’t be surprised if I don’t check in until 5 or 6 pm there 🙃)

  44. @Shannon- Acid Fog would not be good!!!

    @Harker- ” It was nuts.” Agree- that BYOC game WAS nuts. 🙂

    I loved that whole Mt Weather/ Reapers storyline even though it was kinda gruesome at times.

    I’m Eastern Standard Time here.

  45. UK time here (GMT)

    Ok so here was my thought process:

    Since we all received our role email, we all know which role we have and what our alliance/team is. So from the get go, we have as a basis what our own team is called and where we/it stand(s) on the spectrum of possible alliances – or at the very least if we are “town” or “anti-town”.

    So then I am now going to include a selection of quotes (in order of appearance) below, which I believe are important/relevant. (@Maria: The sheer length of this is why I couldn’t do this during my lunch break, lol, but I wanted to get the discussion started and see if anyone else had something to add in the meantime. So anyway, here it goes):

    @Greg 1:

    So… I wonder- are we on the ground, and who will the baddies be? Grounders, Reapers, Mt Weather…??

    @Harker 1:

    from what I remember there’s the 100 (kids pitched to “Earth”/Earth) and another group on the surface?

    @Anna 1:

    I think the grounders and members of Mt. Weather could both work as mafia for enemies of the 100 and the people from the Arc that is.

    @Greg 2:

    I think the grounders and members of Mt. Weather could both work as mafia for enemies of the 100 and the people from the Arc that is. I’m assuming the 100 kids and the Ark people are the “good” guys […] The kids hit the surface and are presumably the “good” guys, while the Grounders are initially hostile, although that… changes. For some of them anyways.

    @Amber G 1:

    I guess if we’re looking at S1-3, Grounders would be bad to start but then become allies. Mt Weather was pretty bad all along, and the [Reapers] are obvs dangerous all the time. Maybe there’s a combination of the three?

    @Harker 2:

    Aside from The 100 from the Ark, the Wiki says they encounter:
    the grounders, who live in clans locked in a power struggle; The Mountain Men, who live in Mount Weather, descended from those who locked themselves away before the apocalypse; and the Reapers, another group of grounders who have been turned into cannibals by the Mountain Men.

    @Anna 2:

    I’m wondering if the grounders start off as anti-town, maybe certain goals we aren’t aware of could be met and they create a ‘ fragile alliance’ with the town.

    @Shannon 1:

    I think the Mount Weather group would definitely be bad guys […] Mount Weather also made The Reapers by capturing Grounders and getting them addicted to drugs and conditioning them to be controlled by the sound/light fixture. Then they’d let the Reapers loose to go kill people.
    Here’s to hoping we can stay away from them both!!

    @Beth 1:

    All this talk about Grounders becoming allies, but Ice Nation were consistently enemies of the Ark folks (and everyone else, seems like) so I wouldn’t rule them out as an anti-Town group.

    Oooook, and quotes over.

    So, what do you see in those quotes? I see two strong patterns:

    1. People saying Grounders MIGHT be good/allies
    2. People saying Grounders MIGHT be evil/mafia

    Yet no-one outright saying what the town might be called other than vague allusions to the 100… So, knowing my alliance, I interpret these quotes as follows:

    In “Greg 1” (Yes, that’s how I’ll label the comments), Greg says the Grounders might be “baddies”. Then in “Greg 2” that “the kids are presumably the “good” guys, while the Grounders are initially hostile”. – He admits that some Grounders could change, but sees them as generally hostile.

    This leads me to believe that Greg, at the very least, is not a Grounder.

    So now on to why I included the other comments in this analysis:
    
Based on “Harker 1” (placement of quotation marks around “Earth”) and “Harker 2” (analysis of all possible Earth dwellers) I believe Harker to be aligned with the Grounders.

    Based on “Anna 1” (Grounders could be mafia) I would assume Anna not to be aligned with the Grounders, but then follows “Anna 2” in which she mentions a fragile alliance between the Grounders and the town. Still, her overall consideration of Grounders as initial “anti-town” has me suspecting that Anna is not aligned with the Grounders. I haven’t decided yet whether this means she is mafia or possibly solo.

    Based on “Amber G 1” one could go either way with their assumption. Yes, the assumption is that Grounders start off as anti-town, but end up as town. So this has me thinking Amber is either aligned with the Grounders or solo.

    Based on “Shannon 1” (Mt Weather and Reapers are the bad guys, Grounders victims) I believe Shannon to be aligned with the Grounders.

    Based on “Beth 1” (but aren’t Ice Nation aka Grounders evil?) I believe Beth to not be a Grounder.

    Sooo, what do you think?
    
I think I made it clear why I voted Greg for now and who else is on my “suspicious list” so I am eager to hear from everyone else.

  46. I’m Central Standard Time!

    Of the 3 episodes I did see, acid fog did show up and was pretty nasty. I hope it doesn’t come up but at the same time I do wonder how it would play out. However, not seeing more of the show I’m not sure how it plays out in it.

  47. Ups, one correction: Greg 2 should read:

    I’m assuming the 100 kids and the Ark people are the “good” guys […] The kids hit the surface and are presumably the “good” guys, while the Grounders are initially hostile, although that… changes. For some of them anyways.

    And it my analysis it should read:

    “In “Greg 1” (Yes, that’s how I’ll label the comments), Greg says the Grounders might be “baddies”. Then in “Greg 2” that “the kids are presumably the “good” guys, while the Grounders are initially hostile”. – He admits that some Grounders could change, but sees them as generally hostile.”

    Sorry!!!!!

    Mixed it up when copy pasting. If Inge/Shannon could correct to avoid confusion that would be great ❤

  48. @Kara: the reason for my quotation marks around Earth in the comment you pointed out is because I couldn’t remember if this story took place in our Earth or a planet similar to it so I went with “Earth” meaning Earth-ish. Btw, is the planet they land on proper Earth or otherwise?

    As for analysis of all possible planet side dwellers, it was in response to Megan Rose’s query:

    Wonder if we’re all spread a little thin over different groups…

    It was a copy/paste job from Wikipedia because I haven’t read the first book in years and haven’t watched the show at all. 😅 Really must rectify that.

  49. @Kara, I think I’m still a little confused about your reasons for voting for Greg. (although way to go on the analysis I certainly have not gotten as much out of people’s comments so far as you have!) Anyway, so from what I understand, your operating under the assumption the Grounders are good–or I suppose pro-town is a better phrasing. And since you’re sure that Greg is *not* a grounder, he must be anti-town?

    Also, if you’re voting for greg because he’s not a grounder, what made you vote for him over Anna, since you also speculate that she is not a grounder?

  50. I’m EST (just moved to Virginia in November), and on a more nighttime schedule.

    Will comment more later, including reading over Kara’s in-depth post (thanks for that!), after I get through this migraine and the sudden explosion of work.

  51. Thanks guys! I am feeling better. I just spent a lot of time catching up.. lol. I’m in the atlantic time zone, so an hour ahead of EST. But I work from 8:30-4:30, so can’t really check in until after work or I get NOTHING done.. lol

    I’m going to

    CANCEL VOTE

    I have no reason to vote for Anne

    @Beth, I hope your migraine doesn’t last too long, I had to sleep mine off 😦

  52. I’m kinda confused too, honestly. 🙂 I was just speculating on the game set- up and who the enemy might be (mafia I should say). Or anti- Town probably is more accurate since we have no idea what the set- up actually is. I mean, I don’t think it’s out there to suggest that Grounders/ Reapers/ whatever are gonna be baddies, since they clearly were in the show.

    So just to clarify- I’m suspicious because I speculated that Grounders might be anti- Town?

    I guess I don’t see a pattern as much as I see early game speculation!?! I’m just assuming the 100 /Ark kids are Town. But they’re certainly no angels, some of them, so that could be wrong! Murphy, anyone??

    So, knowing my alliance, I interpret these quotes as follows:

    I always smile when I see this. Yes, we always know WE’RE the good guys, right? 🙂

    So now on to why I included the other comments in this analysis:
    
Based on “Harker 1” (placement of quotation marks around “Earth”) and “Harker 2” (analysis of all possible Earth dwellers) I believe Harker to be aligned with the Grounders.

    This seems WAY premature to me. Assuming Harker is aligned with the Grounders (assuming that’s even a faction- I mean, it’s a safe bet in some form, but we don’t KNOW that yet) but to get that from that quote? Seems like a stretch.

    Same with Shannon1 and Beth1. Nice analysis, but kind of a stretch!

  53. @Harker
    Well, there goes my analysis on you then! 😂

    @Kerrie
    Yes, I am operating under the assumption that the Grounders are pro-town. Who knows, I might be completely off, but for now, I don’t think I am. If that gets me killed off first, so be it. 😉

    since you’re sure that Greg is *not* a grounder, he must be anti-town?

    Yes, based on his comments I am assuming that Greg is not a Grounder and hence must be anti-Grounder, so in this instance, anti-town.

    if you’re voting for greg because he’s not a grounder, what made you vote for him over Anna, since you also speculate that she is not a grounder?

    At the time I cast my vote for Greg I hat not yet read Anna’s second comment (see posting times). However, even so, “Anna 2” cast more doubt on my perception of Anna’s opinion of the Grounders. Based on “Anna 1” alone, I believed my case for Greg not being “pro-Grounder” was stronger. I still stand by that. Anna was the second person which I was suspicious of at the time, as stated in my comment.

    Beth’s comment came later, so I added her to my list of current suspects.

  54. Ah, hello, Greg 😈

    I think your most recent comment only solidifies my opinion for the moment that I cast the right vote, as it seems to me you are still, if not questioning the existence of the Grounders, then at the very least trying to cast doubt as to their pro/anti-town alignment.

    Which is fair – but I think it is for everyone to decide for themselves whether they think Grounders are pro or anti-town.

    After all, who is to say the Grounders aren’t *the* town?

    I always smile when I see this. Yes, we always know WE’RE the good guys, right? 🙂

    I am not making statements that *I* am a good guy, or that *I* believe to be on the right side. I am asking everyone to make up their own minds based on their own role and their own alliance. I just presented my thought process as to why I voted for you and how I formed it.

    Assuming Harker is aligned with the Grounders (assuming that’s even a faction- I mean, it’s a safe bet in some form, but we don’t KNOW that yet) but to get that from that quote? Seems like a stretch.

    Yes, it turns out I was reading too much into Harker’s comments indeed. And yet, I still think that at least for the moment, they are more likely to be pro- than anti-town.

  55. @Harker, I should really not be allowed anywhere near a keyboard after work. Again, I apologise.

    Here is the relevant section:

    Assuming Harker is aligned with the Grounders (assuming that’s even a faction- I mean, it’s a safe bet in some form, but we don’t KNOW that yet) but to get that from that quote?

    I think if you know you know, and there lies the beauty of this game.

  56. @Kara: I see what you mean. I don’t know that it’s enough for me to place a vote at this time, but thank you for answering my query. 🙂

    I hope those feeling under the weather feel better soon. Migraines while trying to figure this game out are no good. 😷

  57. @Kara

    Yes, I am operating under the assumption that the Grounders are pro-town

    Can I ask why you’re making that assumption? I mean, it’s certainly possible, but judging from a lot of the comments many of us were speculating that Grounders would be anti- town, not pro- Town. We could be wrong, of course, but I’m curious why your initial assumption out of the box is that they’re Town?

  58. @Greg, well, here is where I say, because I know *my* role. But again, whether other people will agree with me or not will have to depend solely on their own perception of their own roles and alignments.

    As to “many speculating that Grounders would be anti-town”… well, I combed through all the comments, and it’s not that many… To me, when I read the comments, it is clear where people express pro- and anti-Grounder sentiments.

    Maybe it’s just me of course and I am completely off… but that’s the impression I got that I cast my vote based on. But I am happy to hear other people’s thoughts over the next few days.

    And of course, votes are not set in stone. I should also put it out there that I hate *not* having an active vote cast. So until someone seems more suspicious to me, my vote will stay 😉

  59. @Kara woah that is some pretty amazing analysis so early on in the game!

    At the moment i feel like there’s just speculation about the possible alliances rather than anything particularly sketchy. So personally, I don’t have enough evidence to have any suspicions yet.

    Also I’m in the UK so my time zone is GMT too 🙂

  60. @Kara- that’s fine. You gotta go where your suspicions lead you, and at least we have some analysis happening. 🙂

    I will say though

    @Greg, well, here is where I say, because I know *my* role. But again, whether other people will agree with me or not will have to depend solely on their own perception of their own roles and alignments.

    See this is what I meant when I said “I always smile when I see this. Yes, we always know WE’RE the good guys, right? 🙂”. What I meant was- it seems like in every game some of us (heck, I’ve done it) say “I know MY alliance” etc etc as a basis for our argument. I mean, we can, again, all say that. I can say “I’m Town” but whether someone believes me or not is another thing. 🙂

    But it is interesting you say that you feel the Grounders are pro- Town because of your role. I guess that gives us some insight into your role maybe?

  61. @Greg

    But it is interesting you say that you feel the Grounders are pro- Town because of your role. I guess that gives us some insight into your role maybe?

    I will neither confirm nor deny this statement.

    What I meant was- it seems like in every game some of us (heck, I’ve done it) say “I know MY alliance” etc etc as a basis for our argument. I mean, we can, again, all say that. I can say “I’m Town” but whether someone believes me or not is another thing.

    I completely agree. That is why I am not asking anyone to “believe me”. I am asking people to make their own assessment based on what they know about their own roles and alignments whilst providing my thoughts on how I made my judgement call. Everyone should use their own starting point as a basis for their analysis – since that is the only thing everyone knows for certain.

    I might believe X thing about the Grounders, but who is to say my assumption about them is right? I can only judge on the basis of my facts. My only fact at this point in time is my role. The next fact will be revealed at the start of day two. Until then, we operate on the basis of assumptions.

    And I assume that on the basis of the facts I know, the Grounders are pro-town (or the town) and anyone anti-grounder is thus anti-town.

  62. Goodness me. Seems there’s like a million groups in this world and any one of them could be included. I would say it can’t be all of them but like @Beth said we had at least four teams in the ADSOM games. It could be possible to have different factions with some of the same goals (eliminate threats), but also something else specific to their group? I don’t know the groups or what they do, but that would lend a reason for so many groups to be represented here.

    Whilst the acid rain thing sounded a lil bit scary haha, it does bring up even more possibilities for twists and turns in the games. I feel like our evil game makers ha e moved on from regular games and will never leave anything ‘standard’ again. Haha. There’ll always be some twist we won’t see coming. The ADSOM games had the black stone effect that could be randomly used here like how the buttons were dropped in BYOC2.

    Also what @Shannon W said about the Mountain Men and the Reapers was interesting. Assuming they’re in the game there’s a few ways how they could be used. The reapers could already be in play and be like the killers of the mafia (the mountain folk) and do their bidding. Or they could be recruited and ‘turned’ throughout the game similar to the cult function. And since she said they took the grounders and turned them, that lends me to believe they’d be allies of the town (which I’m assuming is the 100, or whatever else they’re called).

    I would expect limitations to be set on people depending on their character if it is a key piece of who they’re playing. Like if a reaper, I’m assuming they’re pretty mindless and may have a comment maximum or how much they can write. In keeping with their character.

    I don’t know. I’m probably going in waaaayyyy to deep into lore and game mechanics and that all would be way to complicated to make a game of haha. It’s what I usually do. I see traps in everything! Haha.

    Hope all that actually made sense.

    Seeing I’ve sort of come to the decision from what I’ve read the 100 & grounders = good, and mountain men & reapers = bad. I’ll have to look over the posts again to see if I can glean anything.

    Don’t know if my assumptions are at all correct but its all I got. And will just have to see if any other groups crop up and how they interact with everything.

    Any other main groups in this fandom we should know about? What are the main story lines?

  63. @Kara

    Everyone should use their own starting point as a basis for their analysis – since that is the only thing everyone knows for certain.

    Well on this we agree. 🙂

    And I assume that on the basis of the facts I know, the Grounders are pro-town (or the town) and anyone anti-grounder is thus anti-town.

    This is interesting because now- early on in the game- we all have to decide how to proceed with this info. At least one player is saying pretty categorically that the Grounders are Town or pro- Town, which is not a Role reveal but definitely gives us something to chew on. Again, my early speculation was that Grounders would be an anti- Town faction, but of course this is the Bookish Games so anything is possible. 🙂

  64. Okay so I just watched a season 1 recap and it seems the 100 killed a bunch of grounders. So they may not be allies after all…?? I know nothing, ignore my ramblings. Or help make sense of it a lil bit haha

  65. My head is spinning; so many comments about analysis on Day 1. I was thinking we’d still be singing kumbaya.

    I am in central time!

  66. @Megan: By the end of the series everyone is Wonkru and sings kumbaya as Anne put it. But I don’t remember in what season these changes started happening.

    @Greg: I’d be curious to hear who you assume is the town.

  67. @Kara: this feels like more information than we usually have on D1. 😂 Thank you.

    Your focus seems to be centered on the Grounders, so whatever information you have, your facts as you refer to them, I assume relay back to them. Do you have thoughts regarding the Ark kids? (Is that what they’re called in-universe? Or is it The 100 that refers to the kids that are dropped from space?)

    That hook about a new fact D2 has me curious, no lie, but also a little wary because it could be a) a way to keep yourself around by offering tidbits of information (though since nothing has been proven or disprove yet I’m not sure that really holds water) or b) be waving a flag for whatever is out there that might want to target an info source (because really, who (anti-town) wants the pro-town faction(s) being informed? I say all this as someone who has played the last six games, so maybe I’m a little paranoid at this point. 😆

  68. Can we sing kumbaya??? 🙂

    @Megan – someone said there are no good guys, and I feel like that’s a pretty apt description of the show at times!

    @Kara- I don’t know yet. I don’t feel like I have enough info? I mean, my default assumption coming in is that members of the 100/ the Ark would be Town, but of course that might not be the case.

  69. Okay so it seems Mount Weather = bad, very bad. They have to be the baddies and have the acid fog thing at their disposal.

    There seems to be a tenuous on again off again alliance with grounders.

    Ice Nation cause some trouble.

    Jaha (no idea if spelt correctly) becomes some prophet so I’m calling cult leader.

    If theres a Murphy in the games they have to have a survivor role. That lad went through a LOT.

    And I feel like the AI just has too much power for one of us to have. I’m thinking that’s our game masters who are gonna throw twists our way at times.

    Just watched a recap of the first 3 seasons to get me a bit more clued up about the world. Doesn’t help much with finding the baddies but at least I won’t be as confused when reading everyones comments haha.

  70. Also there was no mention of any reapers so they may not be around until later seasons, unless my videos just didn’t mention them. So my big comment from earlier might just be completely pointless now haha

  71. @Harker

    At least in the TV show, the people from the Ark do not have a name as such (I think?). The 100 is what they call them when they “deploy” them. Once on earth, they evolve into Skaikru.

    I believe in transparency. The comment regarding the start of Day 2 had to do with the “death” of whatever potential players during the night and the announcement of their role and affiliation at the start of Day 2. (I don’t remember if the role of the person we vote off – should we do so – gets announced at the end of the voting period or at the start of the next day.)

    On another note:
    For any avid Mafia players: I recommend downloading the game Werewolf (Android and iPhone) A game lasts roughly 15 minutes from start to finish on there once the training stages are cleared and if you don’t watch out… it’s easy to play a few hundred, if not thousand, games without realising… not that I am counting… or talking from experience… (the app keeps track of stats though)

  72. I’m trying to watch out for people accidentally giving away important information unintentionally. Like when a player ( I think maybe Edward?) referred to the cultafia during ADSOM before it was common knowledge that there was a cultafia, but no one noticed. At first I was suspicious of Megan Rose’s surety that the Mount Weather faction is mafia but now it seems that might be a logical conclusion. Can folks more familiar with the series confirm? I’m really wishing I knew more about the show at this point!

  73. Ok, can someone who is familiar with the show make a little list of potential groups/ factions please? I just remember the kids, the adults on the ark, the grounders, and the creepy science people in the mountain. Who are the Ice Nation? Are mountain men the same as Mount Weather? Would grounders and Reapers likely be different factions? I have questions, and they are a-many.

    @Megan, that’s an interesting theory about the reapers

    Like if a reaper, I’m assuming they’re pretty mindless and may have a comment maximum or how much they can write. In keeping with their character.

    After Harker’s emoji button curse last game I wouldn’t put it past the mods 😂

  74. Given the confusion around the names/fractions at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if there isn’t a “The 100/Arc” group. Maybe this is the battle of the earthlings or the 100 are the invaders 😂

  75. Thanks, all. Migraine has abated for now (I had the opposite of you, Jenn- I woke with mine! It seems to be coming and going in waves now).

    @Kara Did you know that *Harper* is a character in The 100 when you made that typo? 😀

    My only fact at this point in time is my role. The next fact will be revealed at the start of day two.

    Bold of you to assume we won’t be able to protect the night kill target. Ooooor you’re hinting that you’re an informed role and possibly making yourself a target, which worries me.
    Also, to your earlier comment about Wonkru, it was created after the Final Conclave, which is S4, so it wouldn’t be relevant here.

    @Megan

    I don’t know. I’m probably going in waaaayyyy to deep into lore and game mechanics and that all would be way to complicated to make a game of haha. It’s what I usually do. I see traps in everything!

    It’s a slippery slope to speculate too much before we get more information, but given Shannon M co-designed this edition of TBG and she’s a The 100 superfan, I think your instincts about show roles having powers and limitations that correspond to what the character did in the show is probably correct.
    Of course, over the course of 3 seasons, almost all of the characters went through a lot of changes.

  76. @Kerrie
    That was so wild haha. And reading through comments again made me remember Beth’s infamous cheese puns in the ADSOM game (not sure if you played that game tho). Our game makers certainly like throwing us a curve ball 😂

    Also I feel like I want to write what I’ve gleaned about the show and alliances down for you but all I did was watch like a ten minute video and thinking myself an expert so maybes not the best? Haha.

    But yeah I would say the Mountain Men are the people living in Mount Weather. They seem good but it turns out their capturing Grounders to use them to cure themselves from the earth’s radiation (and then wanna kill the 100 too eventually). Wonder if that’s how they also created the reapers as a by product because the video I watched didn’t mention them, so I’m not sure if they just weren’t mentioned or don’t actually appear until later.

    And it seems the Grounders are made up of clans one of them being the Ice Nation who casue trouble. There’s on again off again alliances with the Grounders as a whole but the ice nation separate and cause havoc.

    Eventually those on the Ark in space have to crash to earth as they’re running out of oxygen (after already culling hundreds) and Jaha stays to jettison them off (tho lives in a way and goes on a pilgrimage and becomes and prophet for the AI basically building a cult for this ideal but virtual world). They are the Ark people and there’s diffferent groups of them doing naughty things too.

    So I would have to say surely only the 100 are town (with other groups as possible alliances). Those are the ones the show truly follows and all the other groups are kind of always up to no good.

    I think.

    Someone who has actually watched the show please correct me if I’m wrong. I’m making a lot of assumptions here I think, oops 😅

  77. Who forgot to refresh before commenting? Meeeeeeeee (insert facepalm here)

    @Nicole

    Can folks more familiar with the series confirm? I’m really wishing I knew more about the show at this point!

    Can confirm, Mount Weather are bad dudes, for both The 100 and the Grounders. They basically use both groups as living dialysis machines (and, as pointed out earlier, they make Reapers as well).

    @Kerrie
    Possible groups, based on teams/groups in the show (seasons 1-3):
    The Ark adults
    The Ark kids
    Grounders (In S1 they’re enemies of The 100, but then it’s more like: Trikru/allies of The 100; Ice Nation/enemies of The 100)
    Mount Weather/Mountain Men (pretty solidly bad guys throughout their entire plot arc)
    Reapers (not really a coalition, more like mindless zombie weapons created by the above)
    The City of Light (aforementioned Jaha cult)

  78. I have commented so much today, this is totally not my style. Do not expect this level of engagement throughout haha. I’m just so happy I’m actually upto date with all the comments! I’m usually playing major catch up with like 70+ comments 😂

  79. I slept and woke up and it was over 100 comments already?!
    So many information in Day 1 (and somehow my company blocked the website so mobile here it is!)
    @Beth, Harker, Jenn: I hope you’re all feeling better now!

    And I’m in GMT + 7

    @Kara: that’s a pretty deep analysis you did there! I’m still not sure as I’m not that familiar yet with the series (I’m reading the wiki now and might try to binge watching in the weekend) 😂

    I also downloaded that game (or something similar) but people ended up playing for the daily quest so not fun anymore! Not sure if it’s the same game tho

    @Megan: Yeah reading the wiki, I kinda lean towards that The 100 is the town (I mean the title? 🙈) and some others are possible alliances).

    Have to be quite slow, it’s reporting time for me at work! Will go through in weekend!

  80. I am going to have to read the comments from the beginning on Friday (1/15) to look for any suspicion. I only finished the first season a couple days ago.

  81. Oh man, this is only my third time playing this game but there seems to be A LOT more analysis and speculation going on in Day 1 than in my first two rounds! I think some of the comments made by Kara and others are worth re-reading and thinking further on…. But I am also in Eastern Standard Time and it is just about midnight here so I am heading off to bed. I will try to look over everything before work and draw more conclusions but I will generally only have time to post early in the morning or late evening my time. Until the weekends anyways!

    Reapers definitely are in the first 3 seasons, because that’s all I’ve watched and I’ve seen them haha. What Beth W. said above is correct, they are essentially zombies created by the Mount Weather.

  82. Woah so many comments already!

    I’m trying to absorb the speculation on roles and the allegiance of the factions at the moment, because I’ve got to admit that I have only watched 2 episodes of the show and read the book. I’d be stretched to say I would have any more knowledge or expertise on it though.

    I’m on AEST time zone in Australia, which means the start and the end of the Day happens when I’m well and truly in bed. So as usual, this is going to be interesting.

    Also

    CANCEL VOTE because that was my random first vote based on nothing.

  83. Voting Update:

    Harker (1) — Anne
    Meeghan (1) — Siran
    Jeann (1) — Meeghan
    Dana (1) — Shannon
    Kerys (1) — Kerrie
    Greg (1) — Kara

    Not voting: Greg, Amber B, Beth, Harker, Anna, Nicole, Maria, Megan, Amber G, Kerys, Jeann, Dana, Jenn

    (It is so hard watching everyone chat about The 100 and saying nothing 😂)

  84. Shannon- that would be hard!

    Just as an aside, it’s kinda nice to be playing in a Game where I actually know what’s going on! Several of the previous Games were based on books I hadn’t read- at least I know what’s going on here 🙂

  85. @Shannon that would definitley be the only downside of creating a game on one of your fave fandoms haha. But I’m sure the chaos that will inevitably come our way may make up for it slightly :’)

  86. I’m GMT! I tend to post during the day, although at the moment I’m packed full of work meetings so my participation may be a bit all over the place until beginning of February.

    The speculating is fun, and I feel like given Kara’s comments about Grounders being pro-Town we may have sussed at least one of the groups… unless she’s having us on which is entirely possible, especially considering she’s a veteran player. I don’t feel strongly one way or another about Grounders being good or bad guys as they could definitely be either based on the show. I’m going to have to look into Kara’s comments more tomorrow because honestly I wasn’t expecting this much discussion and information on Day 1.

    As a side note, I bet Asti is facepalming in the Spectator Chat about all this speculation and so little analysis haha.

    In terms of Mafia (whichever group they are), how are we feeling about them? Do we think they’re laying low, getting involved, or double bluffing? There’s normally a combination of the three going on, especially in the early Days when there’s not much to go off.

    I don’t have any strong suspicions about anyone at this point. I tend to look at the quiet ones to start off with. Siran is quiet but that’s her usual playing style, Jenn hasn’t been around much either but says it’s due to a migraine (fair!), and Dana hasn’t been posting much. They could be hiding out, or they could be busy with work/life/etc.

    Day 1 is always so difficult! I’ll probably come back tomorrow afternoon and try to do some good analysis of comments and hope there’s something more substantial to take away from it all.

  87. Well, I don’t think we should put much stock in number of comments at this point, as it’s early days still. But since it was brought up and I had some time to fill, here’s the breakdown as of Jan 15 at 5:40pm (game time):
    Meeghan: 1
    Jenn: 2
    Jeann: 2
    Siran: 3
    Shannon: 3
    Kerys: 3
    Dana: 3
    Anne: 3
    Anna: 3
    Amber B: 3
    Maria: 4
    Nicole: 5
    Kerrie: 6
    Amber G: 8
    Megan: 10
    Beth: 11
    Greg: 13
    Harker: 14
    Kara: 15

    I feel like most past games have ended up with about 1/3 of the people being consistently vocal and driving speculation, accusations, etc…which is consistent with the above numbers.
    While it does feel like the low commenters and moderate commenters are all pretty low, I expect there’ll be more differentiation between those groups as the game progresses.

    @Amber G
    You call out Siran, Jenn, and Dana, who all posted 3 comments by the time you posted. Is there any reason you picked them out specifically, given so many others have also commented 3 times (and given Meeghan has only commented once, making her the quietest to date)?

  88. @Beth

    You call out Siran, Jenn, and Dana, who all posted 3 comments by the time you posted. Is there any reason you picked them out specifically, given so many others have also commented 3 times (and given Meeghan has only commented once, making her the quietest to date)?

    No, not really! I haven’t gone into a full analysis of people who have been quiet, like I said I’ll hopefully have time to do that at the weekend.

    I was just using the three I mentioned as examples (rather than calling them out) to say that I’m normally suspicious of quiet players on the first couple of Days, and then also pointing out there could be reasons for them being quiet. I really feel it’s too early to tell if people are truly flying under the radar.

    Honestly, I forgot about Meeghan (sorry @Meeghan). I suspect Jenn came to mind because of the migraine thing and Siran came to mind due to her playing style. That’s my entire thought process there.

    Thanks for the list though! That should save me some time tomorrow 😀

  89. @Dana

    I’m just not good at speculating so tend to hang back a bit trying to absorb what everyone is saying!

    That’s fair! There’s really not much to go on in the early stages.

  90. @Megan, ADSOM was my first game! Haha i almost made a cheese pun in my first comment 😆 & thank you for that list of factions!

    @Beth, thanks for tallying up those comment totals. It’s so hard to draw any conclusions on day 1 with so little info to go on, but if we want to look at who might be staying quiet, it might be useful to look at people who may have commented but haven’t really joined in on any of the speculation.

    Jeann
    Has commented twice, but not commented on speculations so far. She said earlier she’d give them some thought. I would love to hear your thoughts so far @Jeann when you have a moment!

    Dana
    She’s said she isn’t good at speculating & is hanging back to observe. I don’t know if this is her usual playing style, but i’m not too sus about this yet.

    Anne
    Has commented 3 times, but one was to vote, one was to say she loves Linktavia (i mean i totally agree) and one was to say she was surprised at the amount of speculation already occurring. If memory serves, Anne is also a quieter player, but @Anne I’d love to hear any thoughts you have thus far as well

    Siran
    Hasn’t said much about specs, and is usually a quiet player. @Siran, what do you think of the speculations thus far? And what did you mean by “there could potentially be mafia in the 100”?

    Meeghan
    As Beth stated has been the quietest so far, but if memory serves, she is usually more active over the weekends, so I expect to hear from her nearer the end of the Day

    Jenn
    As noted hasn’t been feeling well, so I’m not too sus of her being so quiet. (Hope you’re feeling better when you read this Jenn)

    However, actually the person I am most wary of right now is Kara, and here’s why:

    – She got the ball rolling on votes pretty early, which in my experience is pretty unusual for D1, but I will admit that I haven’t played a game with Kara before, so this may just be her usual playing style and she has said that she doesn’t like *not* having a vote on the board, so this in itself isn’t too suspect, but i thought it worth mentioning.

    – She’s been hinting at her role a *lot*, and her role hints have done a lot to cast her and the grounders as town. This makes me wary for two reasons–as others have said the grounders as a group could go either way, and I’m a little wary that this might be an attempt to cast the grounders as a pro-town team.

    -also this comment:

    If that gets me killed off first, so be it. 😉

    She knows she’s making herself a target and it seems like she *wants* mafia to target her overnight. Could be an attempt to make sure she’s protected, or could be an attempt by the mafia to trick whoever might have a protective ability into protecting a baddie instead of a townie.

    Anyway, just my thoughts so far. I’m not ready to cast a vote, but I’d love to hear everyone else’s thoughts!

  91. @Amber G: I’m curious about something you mentioned in your last comment when you were explaining your choice of call outs. You said Siran came to mind due to her playing style. Have you watched the games Siran has played in? By my count, you haven’t played in Games with her so this comment seemed interesting.

  92. For the possiblity of mafia in the 100… I was thinking about the character Murphy. Again I only finished season 1.

  93. @Harker (I can’t quote on my phone)

    Yeah I have only played the Chaos Walking game before, but I’ve spectated every Game after that. I think. I have “met” Siran in the Spec chat before. You can see it on the spreadsheet that Asti shares at the end of every game if you want to see how many I’ve been lurking for 😉

  94. Have to agree with Kerrie that I’m a little suspect of Kara at the moment. I could be reading into things too much, as I usually do, but she’s pointed the finger a lot already today.

    She immediately jumped on Amber G in her second comment of the day because of her simple first vote. Looking to just pounce on anyone perhaps? Could just be jesting, but also she was the first person to put the first serious vote on the board as well. Can’t say anything stuck out to me about Greg so was curious she chose him. Certainly after making some bold statements about group alliances when so many others were still questioning who could be pro/anti Town. I feel like she must know something we don’t (like she’s a Grounders and knows they’re pro town) or maybes over playing her hand by being too accusatory of someone she knows isn’t on her team. Not sure, something to think on…

    Also as I was going back through comments, something @Beth wrote made me stop.

    All this talk about Grounders becoming allies, but Ice Nation were consistently enemies of the Ark folks

    She was the first person to mention the Ice Nation and whilst she could have just been throwing another possibility into the discussion of possible groups, it could also be seen as a little defensive…? I dunno. She could be a mafia group such as Mt Weather and trying to cast suspicion on all those who favour Grounders knowing they’re the good guys, because she knows the real mafia group. Perhaps, who knows. Just trying to find any scraps at the moment. First days are always difficult.

    P. S. Hope my first time at using quotes works 😅 🤞

  95. Okay, so there’s a lot of analysis this early in the game, mainly based on the speculation that Grounders are town and/or anti-town.

    After looking into @Kara’s comments deeper, I am going on the assumption that she knows that Grounders are pro-Town because of her own role:

    And I assume that on the basis of the facts I know, the Grounders are pro-town (or the town) and anyone anti-grounder is thus anti-town.

    Greg on the other hand, is probably NOT in the same group, given his comment here:

    At least one player is saying pretty categorically that the Grounders are Town or pro- Town, which is not a Role reveal but definitely gives us something to chew on. Again, my early speculation was that Grounders would be an anti- Town faction, but of course this is the Bookish Games so anything is possible. 🙂

    I think it’s safe to assume that Kara vs Greg are both on different teams – one, because of Kara’s early vote, and because of the two pointing this out in their comments and assumptions based on their roles etc.

    Kerrie has laid out an analysis about Kara and why she founds her suspicious, because

    She got the ball rolling on votes pretty early, which in my experience is pretty unusual for D1

    She’s been hinting at her role a *lot*, and her role hints have done a lot to cast her and the grounders as town. This makes me wary for two reasons–as others have said the grounders as a group could go either way, and I’m a little wary that this might be an attempt to cast the grounders as a pro-town team.

    Also Megan Rose has come in and said she’s suspicious of Kara because :

    I feel like she must know something we don’t (like she’s a Grounders and knows they’re pro town) or maybes over playing her hand by being too accusatory of someone she knows isn’t on her team.

    So my thoughts on Kerrie and Megan Rose’s comment: we all get a role/allegiance email at the start of the Game, so I don’t find it unusual that Kara thinks that Grounders are town? Everyone knows their own role and allegiance. Kara has just been more vocal about it right from the get go, which doesn’t strike me as particularly suspicious.

    Despite what we know from The 100, it’s Bookish Games, and the only fact is this: we are meant to vote out people who are not on our team despite the fact if they are town or anti-town.

    I have a few thoughts about the items above:

    Someone has to get the ball rolling to place a vote on the board, and I don’t think that’s a very strong reason to vote for someone (hence Kerrie’s reasoning for finding Kara suspicious). If anything, I’m impressed that Kara has stuck her neck out this early in the Game, which is something that I haven’t seen many Mafia/anti-town members do in the past (in my experience of Bookish Games anyway), because why bother drawing so much attention to yourself when it’s so easy to hide?
    – There seems to be a bit of “suspicion echoing/piling on” for Kara after she’s alluded to knowing about the allegiance of Grounders, which makes Greg, Kerrie and especially Megan Rose quite suspect in my eyes. I mean why wouldn’t you get rid of someone who is pretty willing to throw their role/allegiance out there if you were a baddie?
    – I think it’s safe to say that Kerrie, Greg and Megan Rose aren’t on Kara’s team because of this.

    For now, I’m going to mull over my thoughts on the above but I will probably cast a final vote based on this, unless anyone else has anything more to add.

  96. My thoughts about Kara have been slightly confused and I’ve been working them over. Basically, my first thought was, why make comments that would put yourself into such a prominent position so early in the game? I think either a) they feel safe in doing for some reason (personally, they have someone to do it, whatever); b) they’re hoping someone will protect them toNight; c) it’s a big brain play to present as someone who is not anti-Town while actually being so because she’d be putting a false target on her back by being in the forefront here while not being in danger because the pro-Town wouldn’t vote her out & Mafia wouldn’t vote her out at Night.

    @Jeann: I’m not solid on any of the above yet. I’m going to have to go back to examine her comments vs those from the people you mentioned in your comment when in conjunction with my thoughts. Thank you for outlining some points for comparison.

  97. @Jeann I see what you mean to an extent, but I’d point out I haven’t voted for Kara based on this (I did vote for her initially as our first throw- away vote but also immediately canceled it for that same reason) and also haven’t voiced a lot of suspicion of her? I’m more surprised that she found my general early day musings about possible factions suspicious in and of itself.

    I think I’ve been pretty clear that my initial assumption was that the 100 kids/ Ark people would be Town, but it’s certainly possible that Grounders are Town, or are allies, or whatever. And as someone has pointed out re: Ice Nation, some Grounders could be Town and some not.

    Does anyone think the 100/Ark are NOT Town? Maybe I’m too wedded to that assumption- I guess the Game could have been set up where the Grounders are Town and the evil 100 kids are invaders and Mafia. 🙂 I mean, anything’s possible. Sure, it’s probably more complicated than that, with multiple factions and victory conditions, but the more I think about it the more I imagine Inge and Shannon are cackling evilly at all this.

    I think it’s nice too that Kara has stuck her neck out early- there is a tendency sometimes to be super cautious on Day One- but at the same time I’m just not seeing anything overly suspicious about the early speculations. But with her Role hinting maybe she does have a valid insight into the Grounders in the game?? Then again there may be other reasons for her to come out as very pro Grounders-as-Town early on.

    I wish I had a vote on the board but I’m just not there yet…

  98. So this conversation got me thinking- who are the prominent Grounders of seasons 1-3? I came up with Lexa, Lincoln, Indra, Echo, Emori, Niylah, Roan, Queen Nia, Luna, Anya, and Sienna. Sorry for any I missed. Oh and my boy Nyko. 🙂

    Note that alliances were very tenuous. Lexa famously betrayed Clarke when they were besieging Mt. Weather, although we know that the alliance was reestablished later.

  99. @Beth: is Heda a person or a title? I’m not sure it matters in regards to finding a suspect/narrowing down to a vote, but I don’t recognize that name so I’m curious.

    I’m going to try and get on my laptop tomorrow and get down to a doc and work…something out. 😂

  100. @Jeann, just to be clear I haven’t cast a vote for Kara and I don’t think the suspicions I’ve raised are enough for me to vote for Kara. My intent was mostly to see what other people thought about her hinting at her role so early (and I’d like to see how Kara defends herself). It’s just such a bold move for Day 1. Also, could you clarify what you mean by the suspicion piling on? I didn’t notice anyone really voicing any suspicion towards Kara before I posted and I don’t find it too strange that Megan or Greg gave their own suspicions after I posted because I asked everyone to share their thoughts about Kara.

    My question now is why are you so quick to trust that the grounders are town when the general consensus seems to be they could go either way. As greg pointed out, any of us could use the “I know my role” line of defense because we *all* know our roles. No one would be able to disprove kara’s claim that she’s town. Whether it’s true or a lie, any other grounders in the game (perhaps like yourself) would take her at her word, because if its true, then other grounders wouldn’t question her claim that that is a town alliance, because they’d know that it’s a town alliance.
    BUT if it is a lie, and grounders are mafia/anti-town, then the other members would not contradict Kara’s assessment that the grounders are town to protect themselves.

  101. Wowee… You all got right into it, didn’t you.

    First things first,

    CANCEL VOTE (sorry Jeann, I meant to do it earlier than now!!)

    For everyone’s awareness, I am in AEDT (an hour ahead of Jeann), which puts the end of Day at either 5 / 6 am for me, so I will always miss the crazy because I like my sleep too much!!

    @Kerrie: thanks!! I am usually more active on the weekends (i.e. now), as my job keeps me very busy. But also I just kind of forgot that the game had started as we’ve had guests staying with us this week and I’ve been very distracted.

    Now, let’s talk about some things. I would like to preface this by saying that I have not watched the show or read the books, so I am absolutely flying blind here.

    Firstly, why wouldn’t the Ark be town?? Unless those questioning it are the ones who aren’t sure if town is referred to as the Ark, or the 100, or Grounders? And if that’s the case, then should they not automatically make it to the top of the suspicions list?

    I also don’t know what Grounders, Mountain Men or Reapers are, but given (I think) my last game was Scythe and @Megan Rose keeps saying ‘glean’ in her comments (twice now), I’m now highly suspicious of the Reaper / glean reference. Is this a code to a third party team who may not know who each other are?? Although, I could 100% be being paranoid.

    I also don’t like this whole sentence from Kara:

    And I assume that on the basis of the facts I know, the Grounders are pro-town (or the town) and anyone anti-grounder is thus anti-town.

    If Grounders are pro-town, does that mean you’re saying that Ark are anti-town?? Or that you didn’t know there was an Ark, and therefore you’re actually third party who is pro-town?? I feel like you’ve just waved a flag in the air and said “Hi, come target me please.”

  102. @Kerrie

    I’ve seen 2 seasons but it has been some time so I don’t have much to add. Plus, I don’t usually speculate much about roles. 🤷🏼‍♀️ I don’t think it helps me find baddies so I prefer to read about role spec than participate. Later on,
    mafia starts also using it to blend in a lot.

    I’m of course interested in all of the back and forth going on today because way more analysis output than a usual Day 1!

  103. @Meeghan I know, everyone’s bringing up so many factions. Here are the basic’s I’ve gathered from everyone’s answers here (and my dad who is apparently a huge fan of the show and muted his work meeting earlier to try to explain the first three seasons to me when I told him the theme of this round)

    Mountain men = mt weather; they capture grounders and turn them into Reapers. Appear good at first but are revealed to be very, very bad.

    Grounders are made up of multiple clans, some team up with/aid the kids/the 100.

    Ice nation is a grounder clan, but *not good*

    Ark People = adults on the satellite

    The 100 = kids on the ground

    I would definitely assume the 100 are town, so if Kara’s to be believed there’s two town groups

  104. @Jeann it seems from your comment that you believe Kara and her thoughts on the grounder good or bad debate. I don’t think it’s out of the ordinary to express suspicions on someone making such bold statements. Definitely not the usual. Could you be a Grounder too? Either further cementing that you are pro town or trying to rid Grounders of suspicion too?

    @Meeghan sorry to burst your bubble but I’m not sending any messages haha. Never read the Scythe books and didn’t participate in those games. And only really delved into the 100 story with a recap video last night! I’m not really well versed in either fandom 😂

    But I definitely feel those who are very certain about alliances hold some suspicion on my part. As so many have agreed it’s not so clear cut in this fandom to begin with so making bold statements is a little telling about what info they already hold….

  105. @Anne, I totally get that! Especially when the speculations move quickly, its definitely easier to just absorb what everyone else is saying.

  106. Ohh just read Kerries comment above, I wonder if there is two towns? Anything goes in the games! Is there a character in the show who acts like a messenger or something to be used between the two groups. I wouldn’t want expect anything else from our esteemed game makers 😂

  107. On the Grounder side maybe Lexa or Lincoln could be considered as a bridge between the two groups. Kane also became sort of an ambassador?

    Maybe Luna if you subscribe to Sea Mechanic? Okay I’ll stop.

  108. Thanks for that run down @Kerrie and @Kerrie’s Dad 😁

    I am on the fence here about whether Kara’s assertions about the Grounders are genuine. Does she really know something or is she trying to play us?

  109. @Kerrie – I guess I was just surprised to see that after you voiced your thoughts on Kara, that other people were quick to echo them as well, such as Megan Rose. I’m always wary of people jumping on the bandwagon and “agreeing” with suspicions, but perhaps it’s because of my own play style that I take what everyone says with a grain of salt *sorry not sorry*

    I guess I just didn’t see her thoughts as particularly suspicious, bold yes but enough to have multiple people go Red Flags?! Not really.

    @Megan Rose – I’m not saying that I believe or not believe her, I’m saying she’s obviously making an informed claim about what she knows from her own role/allegiance email. Which is something that you pointed out as “suspicious” but to me, wasn’t suspicious. So I just wanted to explain my reasoning why.

  110. Jeann said

    she’s obviously making an informed claim about what she knows from her own role/allegiance email.

    Well, it’s debatable whether it’s the real deal or not. Not saying it isn’t, just saying we don’t know for sure.

  111. I’m not sure how to begin with. Kara’s voicing out so early and quite a bold move is a curious thing for me.

    I’ve only played once before when we have the button thing and that we have Megan before played as third party.

    Could it be that Kara’s voting for Greg was a 3rd party’s move? That she has to vote for Greg because she was ‘ordered’ too? Though I’m not sure if anyone can use their ability right away at the first day.

    It’s Day 1 and it has so many speculations already! 😂

  112. Voting Update:

    Harker (1) — Anne
    Meeghan (1) — Siran
    Dana (1) — Shannon
    Kerys (1) — Kerrie
    Greg (1) — Kara

    Not voting: Greg, Amber B, Beth, Harker, Anna, Nicole, Maria, Megan, Amber G, Kerys, Jeann, Dana, Jenn, Meeghan

    Haven’t met comment minimum:  Anna (3), Kerys (3), Amber B. (3), Jenn (2)

    @Megan, fixed the blockquote!

  113. Hello! Sorry, I’m quiet but I lowkey have no idea what’s going on 😂 I have lots of time today so I’m going to be reading show summaries and going back through comments. Hopefully, I understand the alliances better and gather some evidence for my suspicions.

  114. It’s late here right now so I’m just going to pop here and say I’ve read through the comments and will gather my thoughts tomorrow.

    Also I am in AEDT as well which means I will be missing the end of the game Day due to being asleep. I am not an early riser.

  115. Oh, I see you all had some fun without me yesterday. I will try to respond to all comments as best I can.

    @Beth:

    Did you know that *Harper* is a character in The 100 when you made that typo? 😀[…] Bold of you to assume we won’t be able to protect the night kill target. Ooooor you’re hinting that you’re an informed role and possibly making yourself a target, which worries me.

    Yep 😉 Must admit to not liking her, though. As to the second point, I knew very well that I would be making myself a target when casting that vote and explaining my position. But someone also needed to get the hard discussion started and I am not a very patient person. I believe the comments, especially in the beginning, to be very telling in retrospect – especially people’s reactions.

    @Kerrie:

    he’s been hinting at her role a *lot*, and her role hints have done a lot to cast her and the grounders as town. This makes me wary for two reasons–as others have said the grounders as a group could go either way, and I’m a little wary that this might be an attempt to cast the grounders as a pro-town team.

    Maybe they are, maybe they’re not. If there is one thing I wanted to start establishing with my initial comment, it is to see what the groups at play might actually be.

    You see, I too am well aware that the Grounders are not the logical choice for the town team, yet they seem to be based on the information I have. So from my standpoint, two things could be going on:
    1. The Grounders are indeed the town.
    2. There are multiple teams playing as town.

    Now, if 1. is true, there is no real harm done. Sure, I become an immediate target, as I have shown my allegiance pretty strongly, but at this point, so have others, which is valuable insight.

    The issue is if 2. is true. Because if 2. is true, this raises more questions than provides answers.
    How is the game structured? Do both teams have a common enemy? Can one team only kill or be killed by certain teams? Is it last team standing or is one team’s purpose to protect the other? So many possibilities!

    Either way, I am working from my baseline of Grounder = (pro)town, anyone else = evil?

    @Megan Rose:

    She immediately jumped on Amber G in her second comment of the day because of her simple first vote. Looking to just pounce on anyone perhaps?

    I think the overall tone of the message (and the fact that I didn’t change my vote) makes it clear that that comment was made in good fun. If anything, I think Amber G is less suspicious to me than a lot of other people, as I have clearly stated in my first analysis.

    @Megan Rose:

    Can’t say anything stuck out to me about Greg so was curious she chose him. Certainly after making some bold statements about group alliances when so many others were still questioning who could be pro/anti Town. I feel like she must know something we don’t (like she’s a Grounders and knows they’re pro town) or maybes over playing her hand by being too accusatory of someone she knows isn’t on her team.

    I don’t think there is such thing as overplaying ones hand by being too accusatory of someone one know’s they’re not on their team. The hard part is figuring out who isn’t.

    @Harker:

    Basically, my first thought was, why make comments that would put yourself into such a prominent position so early in the game? I think either a) they feel safe in doing for some reason (personally, they have someone to do it, whatever); b) they’re hoping someone will protect them toNight; c) it’s a big brain play to present as someone who is not anti-Town while actually being so because she’d be putting a false target on her back by being in the forefront here while not being in danger because the pro-Town wouldn’t vote her out & Mafia wouldn’t vote her out at Night.

    Or maybe I just don’t fear death. 😉 Calculated risks.

    @Greg:

    I think I’ve been pretty clear that my initial assumption was that the 100 kids/ Ark people would be Town, but it’s certainly possible that Grounders are Town, or are allies, or whatever. And as someone has pointed out re: Ice Nation, some Grounders could be Town and some not.
    Does anyone think the 100/Ark are NOT Town? Maybe I’m too wedded to that assumption- I guess the Game could have been set up where the Grounders are Town and the evil 100 kids are invaders and Mafia.

    Hmmm, so based on this Greg is either “100/Ark” or wants us to believe he is. 🤔 (thinking out loud here)
    I don’t think anyone at this point would admit it if they thought the 100/Ark were straight out not town (due to the name of the game) or if they had suspicions about it even being a team, so I don’t think that is a good path to go down. It can be twisted and interpreted in many ways.

    @Meeghan:

    If Grounders are pro-town, does that mean you’re saying that Ark are anti-town??

    It might just mean there are two towns, in which case a much clearer picture is starting to materialise. Though, if I recall correctly, the adults from the Ark were anything but helpful or friendly with “the 100” in the first few seasons. They always caused more trouble than they were worth…

    @Meeghan:

    Or that you didn’t know there was an Ark, and therefore you’re actually third party who is pro-town??

    See, this question makes multiple assumptions that I do not believe we have the right amount of information yet to make. However, it does help us along:
    You are assuming that both Grounders and the Ark are separate groups and the 100 is another distinct group and are presumably the town. From your line of questioning I infer that you consider the existence of an Ark and the 100 as separate entities as a given (since you say that I might not have known the Ark was a thing, yet I am trying to paint a certain picture about the allegiance of the Grounders being pro-town, thus presumably “the 100”) – either that, or you do not belong to either possible group, hence not knowing what the town is actually called.

    So is it the 100 or is it the Ark people?? What are they called?
    @Greg, you have used 100/Ark interchangeably. Which one is it? Is it the 100 or is it the Ark?
    @Megan, you have also said “the 100, or whatever else they’re called”.

    @Maria:

    Could it be that Kara’s voting for Greg was a 3rd party’s move? That she has to vote for Greg because she was ‘ordered’ too? Though I’m not sure if anyone can use their ability right away at the first day.

    Nope, not forced to or a third party (as far as I am aware). I wanted to vote for Greg.

    That being said, I will agree with @Jeann, I think Greg, Beth, Megan, Meeghan and Kerrie are all highly suspicious of the “Grounders are good” concept. Maybe a bit too suspicious for my liking. Which means there is either a second town… or some of them might very well be mafia.

    Not to say that anyone who has expressed pro-Grounder opinions so far is necessarily good… it is very easy to hide in this game after all.

    I would like to hear what all the players on the silent side think too.

  116. Hey everyone. Just checking in real quick. I’m sorry I haven’t been real helpful so far. Work was super busy this past week but I am off for five days(!) so I’ll be reading the comments later and commenting!

    @Greg I agree about it being nice actually knowing a game’s background for once. 😂

  117. @Kara

    That being said, I will agree with @Jeann, I think Greg, Beth, Megan, Meeghan and Kerrie are all highly suspicious of the “Grounders are good” concept. Maybe a bit too suspicious for my liking. Which means there is either a second town… or some of them might very well be mafia.

    To clarify, you are suspicious of me because I brought up the fact that Ice Nation, in the show, is a faction of Grounders that are enemies (of both the 100 and the rest of the Grounders)? I’m trying to understand why my bringing up the possibility of Ice Nation as an anti-Town group (or role, even) makes me suspicious. For reference, what I stated was:

    All this talk about Grounders becoming allies, but Ice Nation were consistently enemies of the Ark folks (and everyone else, seems like) so I wouldn’t rule them out as an anti-Town group. And I think y’all are right- it makes sense there would be more than one anti-Town team, or an anti-Town team and at least one anti-Town role.

  118. @Beth, my suspicion lies in the fact that you stated the Grounders could not be (pro)town, since the Ice Nation were consistently enemies of the “Ark folks”, and hence might not be their allies.

    That being said, I believe there are players whose position is more questionable, so while I am unsure about allegiance, I find others more suspicious at this time.

  119. @Kara
    I think you might’ve missed where I separated them as two distinct things- Grounders, and Ice Nation. 🙂
    At the time, we were hypothesizing multiple teams (like in the ADSOM game) and listing out possible Mafia and anti-Town groups that could be in play here. I think it’d be a mistake to assume we have one set of good guys and one set of bad guys- I’ve seen that happen in previous editions of TBG and Town got blindsided because of it.
    So I think collectively we’ve come up with a list of potential anti-Town factions:
    Mt Weather/Mountain Men
    Ice Nation
    City of Light/ALIE

  120. Oh gosh I though there was a vote today, which I am not prepared for. Thank goodness it is tomorrow!!

    I’m take down my original vote off the board though because it was completely random.

    CANCEL VOTE

    I’ll reread and gather my thoughts later.

  121. @Beth So, based on the factions in the show and books, you think there could be multiple towns and potentially multiple anti-town groups?

    At this point I am slightly suspicious of Kara but do think she is being genuine. I’m always suspicious of Greg whenever we play in the same game together, so I don’t know whether to trust that or not.

    We’re getting close to end of day and I don’t like not having a vote on the table so I am going to

    VOTE KARA

    I’m likely to change my vote but I want to keep things moving. I also have family visiting today so I may not be very active. I should have time to check in before end of Day.

  122. @Nicole

    So, based on the factions in the show and books, you think there could be multiple towns and potentially multiple anti-town groups?

    Based on the show, the fact that our gamemasters love to throw chaos at us, and taking into account Kara’s comments and others’ reactions to them, yes, I think it’s very likely that there are at least two Town/pro-Town groups and at least two anti-Town groups (or a Mafia group and an anti-Town role).

  123. @Nicole
    I do wonder why you are singling out Beth in this instance. There are multiple people that hypothesised that there could be more than one town.

    Also, I wonder, why vote for me if you think I’m genuine in what I’m saying? I’m not sure I follow.

    Eager to hear more on how your thought process.

  124. @Beth,

    I think it’s very likely that there are at least two Town/pro-Town groups and at least two anti-Town groups

    As the Day progresses I’m starting to agree more and more with this. I definitely feel like we have a set up similar to ADSOM.

    @Kara thanks for your answer! I’m going to rescind my suspicions for the moment, as I am starting to think there might be 2 towns at play

  125. Kara said

    Either way, I am working from my baseline of Grounder = (pro)town, anyone else = evil?

    So just to clarify- in your estimation ONLY Grounders are pro- Town? Because just above that you say option two is that there may be two Town factions. Just want to clarify.

    Hmmm, so based on this Greg is either “100/Ark” or wants us to believe he is. 🤔 (thinking out loud here)

    Or… I was just speculating about game set up, as were many of us. Although, again, I’ll say that the 100 in some form are Town seems pretty logical to me. Sure, the mods could have thrown a wrench in the works and made them anti- Town, but it seems unlikely to me.

    Farther down in comment Kara says this

    It might just mean there are two towns, in which case a much clearer picture is starting to materialise. Though, if I recall correctly, the adults from the Ark were anything but helpful or friendly with “the 100” in the first few seasons. They always caused more trouble than they were worth…

    So maybe that goes towards answering my first question above? I guess I’m wondering- if there are potentially two Towns, maybe it doesn’t matter if we keep going around and around about whether the 100 or Grounders (or others) are Town or not. Although it’s natural to speculate I suppose. There are 19 players, and as several people have pointed out there are all manner of possible factions from the show. The 100, the Ark (if they’re separate), the Grounders, mountain men, City of Light? Others I’m probably missing. Normally I don’t exhaustively try to discern which characters from a book or show might have been included in a Game, but in this case I’m starting to get very curious!

    So is it the 100 or is it the Ark people?? What are they called?
    @Greg, you have used 100/Ark interchangeably. Which one is it? Is it the 100 or is it the Ark?
    @Megan, you have also said “the 100, or whatever else they’re called”.

    Well, who knows? It could be both? I mean the 100 are presumably the kids on the ground, and you’re right the adults on the Ark were not always… the nicest people. So there could be two factions there!

    That being said, I will agree with @Jeann, I think Greg, Beth, Megan, Meeghan and Kerrie are all highly suspicious of the “Grounders are good” concept.

    I’m not necessarily suspicious of the Grounders are good concept. I readily admit the grounders may be a Town faction, or some grounders may be and some not. That’s partly why I listed prominent Grounders in an earlier post- I was going through them and trying to speculate on possible Roles they might fit into. There are some good ones (Lincoln, Indra, emori) and some bad ones (Nia) and some gray areas (Roan)… these are just my takes, of course, your perceptions of them may be different! 🙂 My point being with 19 players and potentially several factions, thinking about prominent members of each faction might give insight into how they were set up in Game. I can totally see some Grounders being Town though, and some not, rather than just one Grounders “group” or allegiance.

    Kara’s pushing pretty hard on this and it just feels a little off to me? So I’m going to tentatively
    VOTE KARA
    because, admittedly, I don’t have a lot of other suspicions of anyone at the moment, and Kara’s kind of my only lead? I just don’t feel like those early speculations are compelling enough evidence to be suspicious of me, and all this certainty of Grounders being Town- Role hinting so early- and that comment about non- Grounders being evil? I’m just not there yet that we can know this definitively??? My vote may very well change, but for now…

  126. I mentioned the possiblity of Murphy being mafia. It is just as possible that a grounder (Licoln) could be town.

  127. I’m so lost. Besides it just being a hectic week, all this talk about potential groupings has my head spinning. I really don’t know what to think at this point. I’m hoping to have a chance to do a thorough read through of everything again in the morning before end of day. Maybe I’ll be more helpful then!

  128. @Jeann said

    “I’m saying she’s obviously making an informed claim about what she knows from her own role/allegiance email. Which is something that you pointed out as “suspicious” but to me, wasn’t suspicious.

    Now I’m seeing it the other way now haha. You’re quick to believe that Kara is ‘obviously’ using her pre game info to show Grounders are good when she could easily be making up that info. And when others are questioning it we’re the suspicious ones?

    But it still doesn’t mean anything yet, first day is always a bit difficult. Though I don’t think it’s likely a third party or ordered vote @Maria. Seems a bit too calculated when it’s onky first day with no chance to confer (if Kara is Mafia).
    I accept that Kara must just like having a vote on the board but still puzzled at her reasoning. But she is making a good logical case about whether Grounders are town or not. So she’s either one brazen mafia getting everyone fired up, or massively sticking her neck out and hoping to be protected or has a role that can protect herself. It really can be either one. Bold actions in either direction.

    But in sort of response to the question on everyone’s minds about who is Town, I’m saying it’s The 100. The show follows them and their interactions with all the other groups. There could possibly be other towns, we’ve had that in the games before (ie ADSOM) so it could be true. I was highly suspicious at first by the bold notion that Grounders are definitely town, but I’m definitely warming to the idea that are two towns. But are we still against each other or will we come together later like alliances have been made in the show?

    And in response to @Kara, when I said “the 100, or whatever else they’re called”. I mean the initial kids who are sent to Earth. The Rest of the folks on the station who come down later are different and the Ark. Wasn’t sure if the kids took on a different nickname once reaching the earth.

    Ps thanks Shannon for fixing my quote fiasco! Think I’ll just separate my quotes from now on and leave the coding or whatever alone haha.

  129. So, I could be wrong but I think the current votes on the board are 1 each for Greg, Kerys, Kara, Dana, and Meeghan.
    We’ve got 19 hours to go until the end of D1.
    I’ve seen explanations for why people are voting for Greg and Kara, but nothing for the other three.

    @Kerrie, can you explain why you’re still voting for Kerys, your initial start-of-day vote?

    @Shannon, can you explain why you’re still voting for Dana, your initial stat-of-day vote?

    @Siran, can you explain why you’re still voting for Meeghan, your initial start-of-day vote?

    (apologies if any of you cancelled your vote and I didn’t catch it)

  130. @Siran- I agree. I’d be surprised if Lincoln wasn’t a Townie! And I know it’s fraught trying to guess at characters/ Roles, and again normally I try not to do too much of that (and I usually haven’t read the book so it’s not usually a problem!) but I can’t help myself with this one. and because it’s the 100 (one of my favorite shows).

    So who do I think are the Grounders most likely to be included in this Game? Speaking only for myself, I’d have to guess

    Lexa
    Lincoln (?)
    Indra
    Echo (?)
    Emori (?)
    Anya (?)
    Roan (?)

    The ones with question marks obviously are ones I consider less likely but still possible. And I’m probably WAY off… 🙂

  131. Also apologies to those who haven’t seen the show- i know it can be annoying probably when someone goes through the characters and you’re not familiar…

  132. Voting Update:

    Kara (2)- Nicole, Greg
    Meeghan (1) — Siran
    Dana (1) — Shannon
    Kerys (1) — Kerrie
    Greg (1) — Kara

    Not voting: Amber B, Beth, Harker, Anna, Maria, Megan, Amber G, Kerys, Jeann, Dana, Jenn, Meeghan, Anne

    Haven’t met comment minimum:   Jenn (2)

    19 hours to go!

  133. Who do I think are likely 100 and/or the Ark characters?

    Clarke
    Bellamy
    Octavia
    Kane (?)
    Abby (?)
    Jaha
    Finn (?)
    Jasper (?)
    Monty (?)
    Harper (?)
    Murphy
    Raven

    I’m sure only a few of these made the cut…

  134. I’ve made it to the end! xD I’ve been taking notes and catching up, so I need to format a few things, but I wanted y’all to know I am still alive, just it took me about 3-4 hours to go through everything today and sort through it. Be prepared for a long post incoming.

  135. @Greg: I think at the very least Anya and Lincoln would be included given their appearances in the first season alone.

  136. @Beth, I’ve just been so caught up in the talk about different factions I forgot I hadn’t cancelled!

    CANCEL VOTE

    I don’t have any suspicions of Kerys at the moment

  137. @Greg Pauna as a faction? 😀 I can’t even see Pauna as a role/character. *But* I am still worried that the acid fog may come into play, which would mean a multi-person kill.

    Siran and I have both brought up Murphy as a likely role (whether Mafia or Town), and I think Bellamy and Clarke are likely as well. There are so many different role combos I can think of for this game, and speculating on roles at this point feels…pointless. And a little distracting, to be honest. I mean it’s fun to do, but I’m not sure it gets us any closer to discovering the identity of the Mafia…and I’m also wary of the mods making choices that throw a deliberate wrench into things (e.g., “Oh, you *thought* Person A would be Role A based on the show, but they’re *actually* Role B because chaos! :evil cackling:”).

  138. @Beth- normally I would agree. As noted I generally don’t do that much (in other games) but here I’m just having a little fun. 🙂 Plus there’s not much else going on other than the whole Grounder-Town-or-not-Town discussion, which seems to have run its course maybe. And actually you never know- just thinking through the possible characters that might have been included has clarified my own thinking about game set up, which may (or may not) give ideas for who could be mafia. Once more info comes out…

  139. Starting from the beginning. Pardon me if there are some items that people have mentioned as I compiled these notes.

    I started from the beginning and went through all the comments.

    Kara

    Yet no-one outright saying what the town might be called other than vague allusions to the 100… So, knowing my alliance, I interpret these quotes as follows:”

    This made me think she is, at the very least, trying to sound like Town. It’s a bold move by either presenting as Town so early in the game or by being so forward with this kind of allusion to her information. We don’t usually see that kind of forthrightness D1, so maybe that’s why it seems so out there. I’ve never played with Kara so I don’t know if this is typical. My initial thoughts were two fold: either she could be playing up a Role intending to be Lynched because being so forthright is unusual on D1 (but I’m not quite sure about this because wouldn’t someone be acting more…I don’t know, Mafia-y?) or she is big braining a position in which she presents as valuable and someone will protect her in the Night or she is confident in whatever Role she has and that it will protect her on its own, thus she is free to be so vocal toDay.

    When Greg asks about knowing whether the Grounders are pro-Town, she explicitly says she would neither confirm nor deny his statement, which was this:

    [Greg speaking] But it is interesting you say that you feel the Grounders are pro- Town because of your role. I guess that gives us some insight into your role maybe?

    At the end of the same comment, Kara says:

    And I assume that on the basis of the facts I know, the Grounders are pro-town (or the town) and anyone anti-grounder is thus anti-town.

    If she’s not trying to get lynched, I wonder if she’s just adamantly a Grounder and assumes that they are a/the Town team and it doesn’t say that in her email.

    Her suspicion of Beth doesn’t quite add up for me and I think Beth touched on this somewhere, but if Kara didn’t, I would be curious to know:

    @Kara: I think you said that your suspicion of her lay in that she insinuated that Grounders could not be pro-Town because Beth brought up the Ice Nation. From what I understand, are not all Ice Nation Grounders, but not all Grounders are Ice Nation? Please remember I have not seen the show and thank god I have some free time coming up because I am marathoning it. 😂

    In “Greg 1” (Yes, that’s how I’ll label the comments), Greg says the Grounders might be “baddies”. Then in “Greg 2” that “the kids are presumably the “good” guys, while the Grounders are initially hostile”. – He admits that some Grounders could change, but sees them as generally hostile.
    This leads me to believe that Greg, at the very least, is not a Grounder.

    While I was going over all the comments and putting my notes together, I remember reading this the first time the email came through, but rereading the previous comments I came to an alternate theory: that Greg might be one of the Grounders that is good/in alliance with The 100 kids. The way he’d phrased it as some of them changing alliances, it made me think it was something akin to pointing out there were non-hostiles in the group which apparently some people have said there are if I’m not mistaken?

    Based on “Anna 1” (Grounders could be mafia) I would assume Anna not to be aligned with the Grounders, but then follows “Anna 2” in which she mentions a fragile alliance between the Grounders and the town. Still, her overall consideration of Grounders as initially “anti-town” has me suspecting that Anna is not aligned with the Grounders. I haven’t decided yet whether this means she is mafia or possibly solo.

    I’m not sure I quite agree/understand your reasoning here. What would make you think, for example, that in Part 1 Anna is automatically not aligned with Grounders? Is it just because she cast suspicion on them in that Anna1 comment? There is the Anna2 comment you bring up which touches on some kind of alliance, but again, you automatically go for Anna not being Grounder rather than theorizing that perhaps she is one of those self-same Alliance Grounders (do they have a name? Like, separate from the other Grounders?). Forgive my using Alliance Grounders as a stand-in term for the moment. Anyway, your other options defaulted to Mafia or solo, so that was my question for the moment here.

    Based on “Amber G 1” one could go either way with their assumption. Yes, the assumption is that Grounders start off as anti-town, but end up as town. So this has me thinking Amber is either aligned with the Grounders or solo.

    My question here is why do you think that Amber is Grounder or solo rather than something else? I think I’m falling into the classic worrying about roles too much here the more I write this post out, but ignoring the text specifics for a moment, I think your assumptions are a little confusing/concerning because they seem to be part closed off and part not making sense to me. Also, I’ve noticed one group you’ve consistently avoided up to this point is The 100. You’ve “assigned” people to Grounders, to solo, to maybe Mafia, but not mentioning the main characters of the series who would presumably be the Town (in any Bookish Games, not just this one).

    You say later to Kerrie that you’re operating under the assumption that Grounders are pro-Town. What then do you make of the fact that, so far as I can tell, they’re antagonistic to the main characters at first and only a small portion of them become allies? That makes me wonder about your supposition; it seems to ignore/forget at times that the Grounders aren’t a solid force, that they’re made up of many parts themselves. Which, in turn, may be totally irrelevant because we don’t know if those parts are all included in the game.

    What did you mean by this part when I was asking about clarifying a comment you made about Greg:

    I think if you know you know, and there lies the beauty of this game.

    Was that in reference to knowing the factions in the show/game?

    I believe in transparency. The comment regarding the start of Day 2 had to do with the “death” of whatever potential players during the night and the announcement of their role and affiliation at the start of Day 2. (I don’t remember if the role of the person we vote off – should we do so – gets announced at the end of the voting period or at the start of the next day.)

    That seems reasonable, though a bit…I’m not sure what. Untenable? There’s no way to be sure you’ll be able to share anything with us toMorrow (the same goes for everyone, we don’t know what will happen during the Night). Regarding your comment about the role of the person we vote off, it is usually revealed upon their Death unless something interferes with it. I forget what that would be called, exactly, but I think it was Jeann in a previous game that in a Mafia role did not have their role revealed upon her demise because her role/secondary role concealed it.

    Sure, I become an immediate target, as I have shown my allegiance pretty strongly

    This caught me eye as I was going over everything and it’s just, maybe a little thing, but from my perspective, you haven’t really shown anything (and I’m not asking for reveals, I’m just saying it’s not what was stated earlier by Kara herself). You’ve made some allusions, some insinuations, but shown? That might be a shade too much. Like, your next quote here:

    Either way, I am working from my baseline of Grounder = (pro)town, anyone else = evil?

    You’re not saying it, but you’re not not saying something here, feels like. It’s confusing, but I’ve been writing this post up for a few hours now, so that might be it.

    I don’t think anyone at this point would admit it if they thought the 100/Ark were straight out not town (due to the name of the game) or if they had suspicions about it even being a team, so I don’t think that is a good path to go down. It can be twisted and interpreted in many ways.

    I do kind of what to ask you about this quote. In the same post, you contradict yourself. You say you’re working from the baseline that Grounders are pro-Town and that anyone else is evil? And the second bit, since you’re definitely saying there are Grounders, why do you think no one would admit if they even had suspicions of The 100 being a team? Like, I see the last bit, but as the series is named after them, I’m not sure I understand it.

    I see that you say you agree with Jeann that Greg, Beth, Megan, Meeghan and Kerrie are all highly suspicious of the “Grounders are good” concept, which I wonder, is that because I think you’re considering Grounders as one group while it looks like Grounders actually split up into separate groups themselves?

    Amber B.

    No real thoughts on Amber B. at the moment

    Kerrie

    She mentioned A.L.I.E. appears as hallucinations/halograms which, fun. I do love A.I. so that is something to look forward to show wise. Game wise, I kinda doubt it. 😂

    Also, Shannon W pointed out that in the show Mt. Weather created reapers out of grounders, so I wonder too if there might be a some kind of cult-recruitment element?”

    Now there’s a terrifying thought. I remember that happened in the ADSOM game and we got super lucky because the Cult Leader died early. That would be an interesting/terrifying twist, kind of a zombie bite thing I suppose? 🤔

    Jeann

    I think that Jeann is taking Kara at her word, that her suppositions are being taking to quite…easily? That makes me curious. I’m not sure what I think about that at the moment, just hm. It could be as simple as Jeann knows something too, that whatever it is is as simple as she and Kara are on the same team (whatever that is) or she has some pre-Game information like “Kara is [insert character name here]”. It could be nothing. Something to note and move on for now.

    Beth W.

    @Beth: I know it was your first vote (which has since been canceled), but you said when you cast it that your intention was to winnow down the similar names. If that’s so, can I ask why you voted for Amber G. rather than Amber B.?

    “There’s also (I think) the potential for independent anti-Town roles (like maybe Murphy…although the obvious choice for that role is Survivor, which isn’t necessarily anti-Town).”

    You mention Murphy specifically here and that he could be a Survivor, mentioning that it isn’t necessarily an anti-Town role, almost like you’re saying he isn’t necessarily anti-Town. I found that curious given what I’ve read about him in the early seasons.

    @Beth: Thank you for the list of people/groups from the Ark Adults to the City of Light. It might help in the coming days and is more detailed than the Wiki.

    Amber G.

    “I guess if we’re looking at S1-3, Grounders would be bad to start but then become allies. Mt Weather was pretty bad all along, and the Dealers are obvs dangerous all the time. Maybe there’s a combination of the three?”

    Amber said this at some point and made me wonder, when taken in conjunction with Kara (assuming, for a moment, that she is coming from a Grounder/pro-Town angle), whether that might indicate some explanation for the confusion.

    @Amber: to answer your question about our feelings about the Mafia, given the number of players and apparently number of potential subgroups, I’d bet there are definitely Mafia/baddies/what have you speaking up and laying low. There’s just such a spread that it’s hard to pin point right now, which is kind of expected on D1.

    Dana

    No thoughts at this time

    Anne

    No thoughts at this time

    Siran

    Siran: Is there a reason you think that Murphy would ere toward Mafia rather than 3rd party? He seems to kind of bounce around a bit from what I read.

    Meeghan

    I think you made a comment about having multiples of the same factions. Yeah, at least for me, that happened in ADSOM. It was kinda wild. 😂

    Suspicion wise: I don’t have anything regarding Meeghan at this time.

    Nicole

    That’s a good thought to look for information accidentally being given away. The Cultafia thing, in ADSOM was so intense and wow. With all the information flying by and how much participation there is, I think we have a lot to go through. Hopefully we’ll find something useful.

    Nicole: why are you voting for Kara is you think she seems genuine?

    Kerys

    No thoughts at this time

    Anna

    Anna, do you consider the Grounders to be a singular unit or made up of parts?

    Megan Rose

    @Megan Rose:

    The reapers could already be in play and be like the killers of the mafia (the mountain folk) and do their bidding. Or they could be recruited and ‘turned’ throughout the game similar to the cult function. And since she said they took the grounders and turned them, that lends me to believe they’d be allies of the town

    Do you mean that the Grounders who aren’t taken by the Mountain Men would be allies of the Town because they would want to ally with those that are not harming them? A “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” sort of thing? Or are you referring to the Mountain Men?.I wasn’t quite sure who you were alluding to at the end here in the “they’d be allies” portion. Thank you in advance for clarification!

    Greg

    I’m wondering, do you have any suspicions besides responding to Kara’s about you? I’m not sure that I’ve noticed any and I wanted to ask about that.

    Maria

    I noted that you wondered about whether Kara’s voting for Greg could be a 3rd Party thing where she has to vote for him. I don’t rightly recall any such power where it would happen before the game begins; usually such abilities are Night Actions and affect the actions the next Day. I think there’s something that forces players into an arena and we have to vote between two people, but I forget what that’s called and it isn’t what’s happening here because it would be announced from what I remember of the role page (Gladiator or something iirc?).

    Shannon W.

    I think Shannon was the first person to bring Acid Fog up, so thank you for that fright Shannon. 😆 She also mentioned that Reapers are in the first 3 seasons and that they’re essentially zombies so yay. #sarcasm One way or the other, no bueno. I don’t have much to go on regarding Shannon herself, so.

    Jenn

    No thoughts at this time

    THE END

    Finally. 🤣🤣 Ok, so, I apologize for that. This is what I get for letting things pile up. I’ll try to do better.

    I don’t quite agree with Kara’s suspicions of Greg because I think I see the points that she brought up in a different way and her explanations didn’t quite make sense as I read them at the time. I’m also not wholly sure what to think about Kara at this time because while there are clearly many options for what her alignment could be, it basically boils down to: is her offering all this information a setup to get her protected or something that will bite the voters in the butt?

    Pardon, I’ve been playing a lot of Among Us in the interim since the last games and I think it’s increased my in game paranoia. 😅

  140. @harker: absolutely he could be third party if there is a third party
    I only throw out the possibility of Murphy as mafia because of his actions against other members of the 100 in season 1. BTW… love the analysis

    @anyone: I know that a player’s first comment in day 1 has to include a vote. So my question is…..Could I change my vote to choose not to vote?

  141. @Harker

    If that’s so, can I ask why you voted for Amber G. rather than Amber B.?

    Yep- Amber B already had a vote on the board (by Kara) and I didn’t want to bandwagon/pile on, with my first vote.

    Also, @Harker

    I found that curious given what I’ve read about him in the early seasons.

    So to me, Murphy being Survivor is the most obvious role, and thus the only one I’m comfortable speculating on right now (which, even then….would the gamesters *not* do it *because* it’s so obvious??). But he calls himself a survivor throughout the series, and it becomes his hallmark as he grows as a character.

    S1, Murphy is very much looking out for himself. He’s part of The 100, and he doesn’t attack them per se, but he works against them at several key moments, in encouraging mob mentality. Then he goes through a character journey of sorts.

    S2, Murphy gets slightly more autonomy in the show and becomes more of a morally grey character. We start to see that he does have loyalties/ideologies of a sort (Jaha crosses a line with the City of Light that Murphy refuses to follow, and Murphy works with Emori).

    S3, Murphy continues to be a chameleon, working with the Grounders in fact (Ice Nation and crazypants Ontari) to stay alive, and he’s actually the vehicle through which we figure out the connection between Becca (the scientist who created ALIE and the neural interface chip) and the current-day Grounder culture.

    So it’s not at all clear cut whether he’d be pro-Town or anti-Town, as a role.

  142. As far as Murphy goes, he seems to be Townie as far as everything I’ve seen from the show. Townie being a stand in for “good guy”. He does bounce around throughout the series but ultimately, there is nothing that has me to believe he’s anti-town at all.

    Jaha is up in the air, but I doubt he’d be in this game but I don’t know. Same goes for Alie, I’m not sure how much she would be in here. I think the Grounders could be anti-town given the season 1 finale.

  143. @Harker- I do not really have any other suspicions at the moment. I’ve been scouring through the comments looking for hints but we’ve been talking mostly about Grounders and whether they’re Town- the focus on that has seemed odd to me- but I don’t have much else?

  144. Had some free time so I, too, reread the comments from toDay as well, and here’s where I stand. Most of the speculation about factions has been distracting, so lets look at actions.

    Kara’s been very vocal, and while I initially questioned her motives for being so vocal, I actually think she’s done a lot to help sus out who stands where. For the purposes of this exercise, I will be taking her at her word that grounders= good guys, and thus operating under the assumption that there are two town groups: The 100 and the grounders.

    Greg was the first to ask about who the mafia could be as a group

    So… I wonder- are we on the ground, and who will the baddies be? Grounders, Reapers, Mt Weather…?

    I agree with Kara’s assessment that he’s likely not a grounder because of this, and the only group he doesn’t mention is the 100, which leads me to believe that Greg is a member of the 100 and thus town-aligned.

    Harker, quickly jumps into speculating which group could be mafia. This makes me rule them out as a grounder, but i’m fifty / fifty whether to place them under town or anti-town at the moment.
    However, they comment later:

    Do you have thoughts regarding the Ark kids? (Is that what they’re called in-universe? Or is it The 100 that refers to the kids that are dropped from space?)

    Which makes me wonder if they’re not a part of the 100 because, if they were they wouldn’t be questioning the name of the group. Which, by process of elimination would make them anti-town or a third-party.

    Kara’s comment

    I think if you know you know, and there lies the beauty of this game.

    Essentially got me thinking. If the grounders are town-aligned, the only people who wouldn’t be questioning that assumption would be other grounders.
    IE: Jeann;

    Others who also express hesitancy towards accepting grounders & likely not grounders: Kerys, Anna, Amber B, Amber G, Megan Rose

    Not speculating: Nicole, Siran, Anne, Beth, Dana, Meeghan, Jenn, Maria,

    From this information, I feel pretty safe in saying that Kara, Greg and Jeann are town.

    It’s hard for me to make calls about those who have not been speculating much, but based on the info I have, my strongest suspicions lie with Harker.

    I’ll try to check in nearer the eod but in case I don’t get a chance I’d like to have a vote on the board.

    VOTE HARKER

  145. @Kerrie:

    If you’re referring to the comment I made when I first listed who besides The 100 show up, that was in response to Megan Rose’s comment about being spread thin. It didn’t include speculation about alignment iirc.

    Regarding “The Ark Kids/The 100”, I haven’t seen the show yet or read beyond the first book years ago so at the time of writing, it slipped my mind the proper term to refer to that group.

    I’m confused about your choice. You say yourself that Greg was the first person to “ask about who the mafia could be as a group” but I’m suspicious for listing possible groups in general?

  146. Voting Update:

    Kara (2)- Nicole, Greg
    Dana (1) — Shannon
    Harker (1) — Kerrie
    Greg (1) — Kara

    Not voting: Amber B., Beth, Harker, Anna, Maria, Megan, Amber G., Kerys, Jeann, Dana, Jenn, Meeghan, Anne, Siran

    Haven’t met comment minimum: Jenn (2)

    @Siran, just to clarify, you don’t need to decide now whether to vote/who to vote for, in case there is confusion!

    13 hours to go!

  147. @Harker, it was this in response to Kara actually,

    @Kara: this feels like more information than we usually have on D1. 😂 Thank you.

    Your focus seems to be centered on the Grounders, so whatever information you have, your facts as you refer to them, I assume relay back to them. Do you have thoughts regarding the Ark kids? (Is that what they’re called in-universe? Or is it The 100 that refers to the kids that are dropped from space?)

    You seem unsure how to refer to the 100 here, which made me consider that maybe you aren’t a part of the 100, and I agree with Kara that you likely aren’t a grounder, which just leaves anti-town affiliations based on the groups I believe to be in play.

    I will admit, it is very thin ground to stand on but at this point it’s all I got 😅. My next best option is to vote out one of the Ambers to simplify the player list. So if you have more compelling evidence against another player share it now! Im perfectly willing to change my vote.

  148. @Kerrie I’m very confused on how you came to the conclusion that your next best option for everyone is to…”vote out one of the Ambers to simply the player list”. Regardless of who’s out, we’re still going to have 18 players which is a lot to keep track with, especially when six others have similar names to each other.

  149. @Amber, It was mostly said as a joke to highlight the fact that I really don’t have much of a case against anyone outside of my very thin case against Harker. All I meant was that if I didn’t have a case against Harker and I had to cast an arbitrary vote I’d vote for you or Amber G in order to make it so that there is only one Amber, and my notes get less confusing.

  150. @Dana:

    I’m so lost. Besides it just being a hectic week, all this talk about potential groupings has my head spinning. I really don’t know what to think at this point. I’m hoping to have a chance to do a thorough read through of everything again in the morning before end of day. Maybe I’ll be more helpful then!

    This is exactly what I’m thinking. What happened to D1 already? Though I can say that it’s fun in a way 😂

    I have only skimmed and haven’t had time to read and analyse all the comments (so sorry!); but there’s Kara’s response to Harker that got me somehow.

    Or maybe I just don’t fear death. 😉 Calculated risks.

    Idk if she just made this as a joke but it intrigues me.

    @Greg:

    Also apologies to those who haven’t seen the show- i know it can be annoying probably when someone goes through the characters and you’re not familiar…

    This is me right now, but I will open a wiki on the other tab so I can take note and understand 🤣

    As of now, I don’t know whom to vote, I will reread everything again or maybe I will be like Siran choose not to vote instead. Haha.

  151. Oh man, it’s been a busy weekend for me organising my toddler’s birthday with family. Reading Kara’s speculation on there being two town-aligned groups makes a lot of sense to me, especially given the amount of people who were wary about being so sure about the Grounders allegiance.

    I know there’s been a LOT of speculation about the groups from the show and my head is spinning because I can’t really recall much about them, but I think from Kara’s bold move that we DO have more information now to work with than not. But does that make any particular person suspicious? I don’t really think so.

    So far for the votes on the board:
    I’m not convinced enough to vote for Greg or Kara at this stage.

    Harker? Maybe, maybe not, seems a bit thin reasoning but at least it’s something

    For now I’m going to:

    VOTE NICOLE

    Because she is voting for Kara despite thinking she’s being genuine, which doesn’t really stand up for me. I’m really interested in what she has to say about her vote, and I might not be able to check in before the end of the Day (bed time is in 2 hours for me), so this will have to do for now.

  152. @Kerrie: that was the second part of my comment in response to your reasoning to vote for me (name for the 100). Can you clarify what you meant about the first part though? I think that got skipped over and I’m wondering about that point because it seems to lead into the conjecture about whether I’m town or not. Thank you. 🙂

  153. @Kerrie: also, just a quick question.

    I agree with Kara’s assessment that he’s likely not a grounder because of this, and the only group he doesn’t mention is the 100, which leads me to believe that Greg is a member of the 100 and thus town-aligned.

    You said this after mentioning Greg being the first to start theorizing about who the baddies could be and listing a few possibilities. What made/makes you think in the above rather than Greg potentially being anti-Town to your theory he is Town and mentioning names to discuss?

  154. Reading through the comments has made me realise there is so much I had forgotten about the show and should definitely finish my rewatch.

    Anna, do you consider the Grounders to be a singular unit or made up of parts?

    I think probably made out of parts more than a singular unit. My earlier comment was me thinking based mostly of what I remembered of the first season and I forgot a lot about the grounders. But from what others have been saying I think it best not to assume that.

    From what Kara is saying it is possible that we have at least some grounders that form a 2nd town. I think I’m inclined to believe her at this point.

    Despite what we know from The 100, it’s Bookish Games, and the only fact is this: we are meant to vote out people who are not on our team despite the fact if they are town or anti-town.

    I think this comment from Jeann is interesting in that just because it means just because there are two towns does not mean the towns wouldn’t act against one another. Although I definitely think it would be more beneficial to aim for the anti-town among us.

    I don’t know that I’ve ever felt so indecisive about who to vote. I just don’t have any strong suspicions from anyone at the moment. And because of that I’m going to

    VOTE JENN

    Mostly picking her because she hasn’t met the comment minimum as of yet. I would prefer to vote than not to and because I don’t really have any strong suspicions at the moment it just feels like the best decision from me for now. Sorry Jenn.

    I won’t make it back before the end of the Day either so good luck everyone.

    I won’t be able to make it back before the end of the Day but good luck everyone.

  155. Hi

    Sorry, I was away today as we were hosting a summer BBQ. It was a really lovely day!!

    However, it’s bedtime now, and I want to leave you all with a thought, because I’m still concerned by some of what Kara is saying, that is now being picked up on by others.

    Kerrie said:

    Which makes me wonder if they’re not a part of the 100 because, if they were they wouldn’t be questioning the name of the group. Which, by process of elimination would make them anti-town or a third-party.

    You seem unsure how to refer to the 100 here, which made me consider that maybe you aren’t a part of the 100, and I agree with Kara that you likely aren’t a grounder, which just leaves anti-town affiliations based on the groups I believe to be in play.

    I do believe we have multiple teams, but I don’t think it’s as simple as “Grounders = pro-town, everyone else = anti-town” as has been said earlier toDay.

    I believe the following;

    • the 100 = town 1
    • the ark = town 2
    • grounders = third party that may be pro-town

    Then of course we would have the mafia team (whoever they may be – please be kind, reminder that I haven’t seen the show or read the book and you all have listed a LOT of possibilities)
    Plus, there could either be a mafia-aligned character, or some third party people are anti-town aligned.

    All of this is a LOT of speculation, but I also don’t think you should be anti-Harker because they didn’t name The 100. And if you do, then you should be anti-me as well, because I did the same. (But also, don’t be anti-me, thanks!! 😂)

    I’m not saying that Harker isn’t sus. Harker is one of the best people I’ve played with, and I never know their alliance. But I do feel that’s not a great reason to be sus of a character on Day 1, when we think there are multiple teams.

  156. @Beth (and everyone else) I am not suspicious of Dana at all, it was my initial vote solely because she had voted for me. She has since canceled it but I haven’t, mainly because in the first two games I played I left Day 1 vote as random. Granted there is a LOT more discussion and analysis in this game’s Day 1 than those two games but… I’m still on the fence on who to vote for based on it. I’ll likely read through everything one more time before the Day ends and may change my vote, but I’m not sure

  157. Therefore, based on all that I’ve written and that Kara is so adamant that anyone who isn’t Grounders is sus, which I believe NOT to be the case, I’d like to vote and say goodnight to you all.

    VOTE KARA

    Have a good end of Day, all. And I hope to you see on Day 2. 😊

  158. Oh, for ease, this is the statement from Kara that concerns me:

    And I assume that on the basis of the facts I know, the Grounders are pro-town (or the town) and anyone anti-grounder is thus anti-town.

  159. Ok, this really is my last comment because it’s past 1am, and just in case anyone has questions as to my motives I really want to be clear.

    As a townie, we don’t know who the factions or teams are outside our own. We do only know what we know, as Kara has said. However, having experienced playing ADSOM and a few others, it’s difficult to rule out the possibility of other teams or individuals that aren’t on your team as also sharing your objective.

    I think the blanket statement of “anyone anti-grounder being anti-town” is very close-minded. It reads like “if you’re 100/ark/a third party who has my goals, I’m still going to vote you out even though keeping you would help me win”, and I don’t think that’s playing the game well. Especially as others have pointed out that The Grounders team may not be “good guys” as a blanket rule.

    Sure, Kara’s role email may say that she’s a goodie, or pro-town, or whatever. But saying everyone who isn’t a Grounder is anti-town, and then casting suspicion on anyone who disagrees, could be hurtful to achieving the town objective to erase all threats.

  160. I think you misunderstood the intention behind that comment, @Meeghan. My comment is very much aligned with what you said. I only have a limited amount of information (in regards to the alliance of the Grounders) and thus anything outside this (ie all other groups) remains suspicious to me until more information becomes available as to any other groups. Hence it is only natural to operate under the assumption that anything outside the group I know to be good is questionable.

    That being said, I do agree with what was said before (on my phone, can’t check who said it) that it is much smarter to go for people who’s alliance with any possible town is questionable rather than for anyone who we assume might be a different town than we are – which I assumed is an absolute given. And given that based on your comments you agree I really struggle to understand your subsequent vote for me. Seems a bit counterproductive unless you assume I’m not a Grounder either or you want to go ahead and eliminate possible Grounders because 1. you think Grounders are evil or 2. You don’t care if another town team starts dwindling simply because you don’t belong to any town team and any town team losing members is in your favour.

    That being said, will reread comments when I get home and cast my final vote then.

  161. Voting Update:

    Kara (3) — Nicole, Greg, Meeghan
    Dana (1) — Shannon
    Harker (1) — Kerrie
    Greg (1) — Kara
    Nicole (1) — Jeann
    Jenn (1) — Anna

    Not voting: Amber B., Beth, Harker, Maria, Megan, Amber G., Kerys, Dana, Jenn, Anne, Siran

    Haven’t met comment minimum: Jenn (2)

    4 hours left!

  162. Okay, I’m here, sorry.. I will fully admit that I forgot. I tend to keep a tab open for the Games during the Day, buuuuut, my cat turned off my computer two days ago and I forgot to reopen it 😦

    As a result of that, there is sooo much to catch up on. I have read through most of the comments now, but just wanted to pop in because I am still here, just a bad player apparently. I’m going to look into the comments more now and see if there is anything that stands out at all.

  163. Based on Kara’s comments, I’m going to assume for now that she is a Grounder. Therefore, I won’t be voting for her until we know more about possible aligned factions. I am slightly wondering if maybe we’re all just in “town” teams and there isn’t really a “mafia” in the traditional sense. Obviously each faction believes they’re the good guys in the show, and are just trying to survive. I don’t know. Just a thought I had while reading through and watching people point out possible factions. Maybe it’s just our team that needs t survive and pick off everyone else.

    Though, if there is a team for the Mount Weather people, they are likely mafia. I just think that anything goes in these Games and never trust the Gamemasters not to have some weird twist up their sleeve.

    I’m going to be looking into the comments of those who are voting for Kara, because she has basically pointed herself out as a grounder, because that means those voting for her are NOT grounders.

  164. Shoot, there are only 3 hours left? I thought it ran later in the day for me and I’ve been working so I haven’t been around much this weekend.

    Okay so the main focus of discussion right now seems to be Kara and her alliance. I’ve been going round in circles with this for the past couple of days, and I’m still not sure what to believe. Here’s what I’ve got:

    Option A: Kara is a Townie Grounder
    – I think unless Kara is really having us on here, it’s incredibly likely she’s a Grounder. I’m just not sure of the alliance at this point. If Townie Grounders are a thing, then there must be multiple Towns.

    Option B: Kara is a Mafia Grounder
    – And is, again, having us on. If Kara is Mafia!Grounder, I’m surprised she came out and said all the stuff about Grounders being pro-Town. However, she’s clearly a very bold player (much bolder than I am!) and I can’t really say what she would do in this situation.

    Option C: Kara isn’t a Grounder at all??
    – I’m not sure what to think about this option. If Kara is Non-Grounder!Mafia, is she trying to deflect? Is she a completely different Non-Grounder!Townie? Is she solo?
    – I don’t like this option as much, it doesn’t seem to make sense.

    As a side note, @Jenn said this as I was typing and refreshing:

    I am slightly wondering if maybe we’re all just in “town” teams and there isn’t really a “mafia” in the traditional sense.

    I did consider this but I think there must be a Mafia at play for the Night kills, right? I’m not sure if Townies have the option to kill at Night, but someone please shout if there’s a role that allows that.

    @Meeghan said this:

    I believe the following;

    • the 100 = town 1
    • the ark = town 2
    • grounders = third party that may be pro-town

    When you wake up and we start Day 2, could you let us know why you think there’s an Ark and a The 100? I’m not arguing, I just want to know why you think they’re split.

    @kerrie

    My next best option is to vote out one of the Ambers to simplify the player list.

    Rude 😛

    —-

    I personally am desperate for more information (in any form, really!) so I’m just putting it out there that I’ll probably vote with the majority to ensure someone is voted out, and any information we can get from that will honestly be a godsend at this point.

    I’m most curious about Kara and the Grounder situation, so I’m going to
    VOTE KARA
    unless something else comes up in the last couple of hours. I want to know her allegiance one way or another, so we can analyse her comments and people’s reactions to them in Day 2. I think it’s probably the strongest thing we have to go on right now because we all seem a bit overwhelmed!

    To address my earlier comments about being suspicious of the quieter players in case it comes up, I think if I vote out a random quiet player at this point I won’t have too much to go on because, well, they have been quiet and haven’t said much. This isn’t to say I’m not suspicious of the quiet ones, I just think voting out Kara will give us some much needed info at this point.

  165. Let me confess that I have been rereading all the comments, but until certain point, my brain freezes 😂

    So @Anne, I want to reply to you before but forget:

    My head is spinning; so many comments about analysis on Day 1. I was thinking we’d still be singing kumbaya.

    Me exactly! LOL or maybe just talking about the cheese (again).

    Okay so here are some points that I would like to take note:

    Which is fair – but I think it is for everyone to decide for themselves whether they think Grounders are pro or anti-town.

    Kara mentioned this and yet from her comments, it seemed like she’s so keen for us to believe that somehow Grounders are pro town

    After all, who is to say the Grounders aren’t *the* town?

    and then she also mentioned this:

    You see, I too am well aware that the Grounders are not the logical choice for the town team, yet they seem to be based on the information I have. So from my standpoint, two things could be going on:
    1. The Grounders are indeed the town.
    2. There are multiple teams playing as town.

    So for me at some point she’s contradicting herself or maybe she’s trying to point out her opinions and it’s up to us to believe. Still a bold move somehow (or it could be a mafia’s move to confuse us?)
    There are also some other things she said that quite caught me:

    My only fact at this point in time is my role. The next fact will be revealed at the start of day two.

    Although she did reply that the next fact could about this “The comment regarding the start of Day 2 had to do with the “death” of whatever potential players during the night and the announcement of their role and affiliation at the start of Day 2.”

    But could it also mean she has something else on sleeve regarding the “fact” she’s referring?

    And then another thing she said about “Or maybe I just don’t fear death. Calculated Risk.”
    plus her reply to me that “Nope, not forced to or a third party (as far as I am aware). I wanted to vote for Greg.”

    So, I was looking at the roles and I was thinking could it be that
    a) She was a Lyncher and have to vote Greg at the beginning (I think Harker also mentioned this before?)
    b) And the fact that she didn’t fear death. Could it also be that her power will be ‘awakened’ if she dies so therefore she also mentioned about calculated risk? And I look at the roles there’s this called Vengeful, that when a player was lynched, s/he/they will be awarded to kill any player who voted for them, hence the ‘calculated risk’ she mentioned.

    I’ll quick a reread again and maybe will cast my vote or if I’m gone I might be sleeping already

  166. b) And the fact that she didn’t fear death. Could it also be that her power will be ‘awakened’ if she dies so therefore she also mentioned about calculated risk? And I look at the roles there’s this called Vengeful, that when a player was lynched, s/he/they will be awarded to kill any player who voted for them, hence the ‘calculated risk’ she mentioned.

    Maybe Kara’s Lynchproof and can’t be voted out during the Day? The Vengeful power is quite worrying :/ but I’m glad you mentioned it in case something weird does happen during the Night.

  167. Okay, so after looking into it, I’m going to

    VOTE: NICOLE

    of the 3 voting for Kara currently, she is the one who sticks out to me the most. Because, as others have said, she said she thinks Kara is being genuine, but has also voted for her anyways.

    Greg is honestly not standing out to me as sus right now. From his comments, I’m assuming he is not a Grounder, but I do believe he may ne 100/Ark

    Meeghan I believe to be a possible Ark member, since she was one of the first to use it as a “sure thing”. I could be wrong, but I think maybe the Ark are good guys. Based of my limited information.

    I think we have reapers, but that they may ben 3rd party aligned. I don’t have any speculations as of yet about who may be a reaper.

  168. OK, 3 hours to go and I just got caught up on all the comments from people outside of my time zone. 😀

    Y’all know I hate tying, unless I think both options are Town. And I refuse to not vote, because it’s the only power Town has to get rid of Mafia, and even if we unwittingly kill one of our own, we’re still getting information/data points from it.

    I feel like the chance that Kara is indeed Town (or Town-aligned) is too big to risk voting her out at this point.

    Likewise, I don’t think Greg is suspicious for his speculation.
    Anyone speculating on the name of the Town team(s) could be questioning it genuinely, *or* they could be intentionally pretending ignorance to gauge the reactions of others. This game is a mind game, after all.

    Megan made a bold statement that I don’t think most people caught, or at least people aren’t commenting on, and I just want to highlight it for a moment.

    But in sort of response to the question on everyone’s minds about who is Town, I’m saying it’s The 100.

    And so I’m not inclined to vote for her, either.

    If we’re trying to determine Grounders and non-Grounders, based on the assumption that Grounders are Town (and the *only* Town team, which I think is incorrect), it looks like this:
    Non-Grounder Speculation:
    Jenn thinks it’s Nicole, Greg, Meeghan
    Kerrie thinks it’s Kerys, Anna, Amber G, Amber B, Megan
    Kara thinks Anna, Beth, Greg
    Jeann thinks Megan, Greg, Kerrie, Nicole

    Grounder Speculation:
    Kara thinks Harker, Amber G, Shannon
    Kerrie thinks Kara, Greg, Jeann
    Megan thinks Jeann

    That’s based on outright statements made by Jenn, Kerrie, Kara, Jeann, and Megan. Other people have hinted in general, but at this point I’m focusing mainly on the people making outright statements, because for better or worse, specifics are the only way to focus discussion right now.

    Things that stand out to me from this:
    – Greg and Amber G are on both lists, making me think they’re possibly being protected (i.e. teammate A accuses them while teammate B defends them). Even it’s D1 and I’m not sure anyone yet knows who else is on their team, this could be coincidental, but seemed worthy of noting.
    – Jenn, Kara, and Jeann align in their suspicions about Greg, possibly indicating they’re on the same team (assuming they know who their teammates are already).
    – Jenn and Jeann align in their suspicions about Nicole, possibly indicating they’re on the same team (assuming they know who their teammates are already).
    – Kerrie and Kara align in their suspicions about Anna, possibly indicating they’re on the same team (assuming they know who their teammates are already).
    – Kerrie and Jeann align in their suspicions about Megan, possibly indicating they’re on the same team (assuming they know who their teammates are already).
    – Kerrie and Megan align in their non-suspicion about Jeann, possibly indicating they’re on the same team (assuming they know who their teammates are already).

    This makes me disinclined to vote for any of those names up there. They could be any alignment, but if they survive into D2, we might then have better data points to start focusing in on them.

    Which leaves the players not engaging enough to speculate directly or be speculated directly about: Anne, Dana, Maria, Siran.
    As I was about to post this and refreshed, Siran has brought up the idea that Kara might be a Lyncher or Vengeful…which is plausible, and I hadn’t even considered it. That warrants further investigation, but I wanted to post this before hour 3 is up. So…thanks, @Siran!

    For now I’m going to
    VOTE DANA

    Because she’s been very quiet (which I understand- this D1 has been a bit overwhelming…sorry, Dana).
    As we get closer to EOD1, it’s likely I’ll be changing my vote, but I wanted to get something on the board and get my observations out there in case anyone spots more patterns in behavior.

  169. @Amber G.

    I did consider this but I think there must be a Mafia at play for the Night kills, right? I’m not sure if Townies have the option to kill at Night, but someone please shout if there’s a role that allows that.

    To answer this question, yes, there is at least one role Pro-Town role that allows for Night kills: Vigilante.

    To address my earlier comments about being suspicious of the quieter players in case it comes up, I think if I vote out a random quiet player at this point I won’t have too much to go on because, well, they have been quiet and haven’t said much. This isn’t to say I’m not suspicious of the quiet ones, I just think voting out Kara will give us some much needed info at this point.

    I can see your point here because assuming nothing went wrong (having played games recently where information was concealed i.e. when there were the linked Roles in ADSOM and Siran was saved and when Jeann died in BYOC2 all her info wasn’t revealed) we’d presumably learn something to point us to what of the things she’d hinted at toDay had been accurate or not.

    @Maria

    I didn’t mention a specific one at the time because I couldn’t remember, but checking MafiaScum and it is the Jester role I was thinking of (someone whose goal is it to get voted out because it is their Win goal) vs the Lyncher role you mentioned (it is their Win goal to get someone specific voted out.

    I would like to hear from Kerrie (regarding my questions back to her today) and Nicole (because it has been asked why she’s voting for Kara even though she’s said she thinks she’s genuine which seems odd). I’m not voting for Kara at this moment because I’m confused/conflicted about her actions today and what they could mean. The heavy allusions, plus the speculations, are a doozy.

  170. I’m reading this and find it quite interesting;

    “I’m going to be looking into the comments of those who are voting for Kara, because she has basically pointed herself out as a grounder, because that means those voting for her are NOT grounders.”

    I’m not sure that I agree with this statement and it bugged me somehow.

    True that Kara might point out that she ‘may be’ a Grounder, but it’s not necessary a ‘Fact’.
    Plus those who vote for her as NOT grounders are also another speculations.
    I just don’t think just because someone vote for someone doesn’t meant they are not in the same alliance in a way. Because after all we don’t know anyone’s role yet so it’s better to be wary of everyone?

    I want to vote for Kara but due to some of my thoughts before (that she might be a vengeful); and the fact I feel better to vote. I think I’ll go away and

    VOTE JENN

  171. I thought end of day was at 5 and I started panicking! Personally I don’t want to vote Kara because even though she could be mafia (or 3rd party anti-town), she might also have a key role that could benefit the town in the future so I want to keep her around for a bit longer. I’m going to go and read through all the comments again before making my final decision.

  172. Voting Update:

    Kara (4)- Nicole, Greg, Amber G., Meeghan
    Dana (2) — Shannon, Beth
    Jenn (2)- Maria, Anna
    Harker (1) — Kerrie
    Greg (1) — Kara
    Nicole (2)- Jenn, Jeann

    Not voting: Amber B, Harker, Megan, Kerys, Dana, Anne, Siran

    2 hours to go!

  173. @Maria, I’m not stating it as a fact, I said that basically Kara has said she is a Grounder, so that the people voting for her are NOT grounders, because if the Grounders don’t know who each other are, and they are town and not mafia, why would they vote for each other on Day 1? Kara could not be a Grounder, but it still tells me that the other three are not Grounders

  174. VOTE KERRIE

    For the time being, so that I have a vote in place because I dislike not voting/forgetting to do so/etc., I’m placing my vote for Kerrie (pending her return and responses). I don’t really understand her theories and the more I look at her answers, the more confused I get because they don’t seem to match up to what she’s saying and using to vote.

    @Jenn: what “other three” are you referring to here?

    Kara could not be a Grounder, but it still tells me that the other three are not Grounders

    Also, going off what you said in your response to Maria:

    I said that basically Kara has said she is a Grounder, so that the people voting for her are NOT grounders, because if the Grounders don’t know who each other are, and they are town and not mafia, why would they vote for each other on Day 1?

    I’m not sure if you meant something else, perhaps? But I think you answered your own question: supposing for a moment that the Grounders are in fact Town. Town typically do not know who other Townspeople are; that’s their disadvantage in the Games. Why would they vote for each other D1? I doubt it would be intentional, but rather an unfortunate side effect of D1 being the day when nobody knows anything other than the email info. Nobody has had a chance to use any Roles yet, no Game tricks have happened that we’re aware of (D1 of BYOC was a trick button but it could have been something good/influential).

  175. I am at a loss as to who to vote for. Day 1 is the worst, ha. 😭 There should be a button for help on D1 or something. 😂

    I don’t know what I think of Kara and I think it’s good to know someone’s alliances with someone being voted off. I definitely don’t want to not vote because that doesn’t really help.

    VOTE KARA

  176. @Harker are you referring to this part?

    Harker, quickly jumps into speculating which group could be mafia. This makes me rule them out as a grounder, but i’m fifty / fifty whether to place them under town or anti-town at the moment.

    Basically, I had said I was operating under the assumption that Kara was pro-town, a grounder, and correct in her conjecture that anyone questioning the allegiance of grounders was not a grounder.
    Based on my own information, that leads me to believe there are two town groups: The 100 and the Grounders. So If I ruled you out as a grounder, that left the possibility that you were a part of The 100 or an anti-town player. In the second part of my comment I explained why I thought it was possible you weren’t a member of the 100, which by process of elimination,leaves the only anti-town factions.

    As for greg, the only faction he took as given was the 100, which leads me to believe that he entered the game with the knowledge that the 100 was in fact a faction at play. He only would have known this if it was included in his role information, thus leading me to believe he’s town.

    Meeghan and Megan have also referred to the 100 as town, leading me to believe that both of them are town as well.

    @Meeghan

    I’m not saying that Harker isn’t sus. Harker is one of the best people I’ve played with, and I never know their alliance. But I do feel that’s not a great reason to be sus of a character on Day 1, when we think there are multiple teams.

    Haha, look, I totally agree that this is such a thin reasoning and they could easily blow holes in my theory, and if they offer a solid reason why i shouldn’t rule them out as town i will happily rescind my vote, but right now its all i’ve got to go on and this close to the end of the day, I’d rather vote out someone for a meh reason than not vote for someone at all. As Beth said, some information is better than no information.

    @Beth,

    Just to clarify, the only players I believe to be grounders right now are Kara and Jeann

  177. @Kerrie: I think what I’m stuck on is that you said I jumped into speculating who was Mafia when that wasn’t what I did. I apologize for being so stuck on this; it happens sometimes in real life as well, I get so focused on something when I’m confused it seems like a nag. 🙃

  178. I’ll be honest, I’m commenting in the car (not driving!) trying to get a vote in because I’m running to an engagement.

    I’m with Amber G, I don’t understand what Meeghan means by this:

    • the 100 = town 1
    • the ark = town 2

    Isn’t this one in the same? 🤔 Aren’t these the same people, how could it be two towns.

    I’m going to admit again that this day has left me feeling all sorts of confused. I feel like that’s a great mafia strategy — all this role speculation has left me mightily confused.

    One of the things that has stuck out was Kerri’s point about Harker. Not knowing the name of what to call the town makes me think they may be not on that team? Was that an earnest slip or something calculated?

    I’ll admit this day confounded me and I did not have enough time to devote to digging in. Even now. So ironically I am going back to my original random vote because that one thing Kerrie pointed out about Harker is the only clear suspicious flag I got at the moment. (The rest of you are fuzzy in my mind).

    VOTE: HARKER

  179. @Harker,
    no worries! There are like 200 something comments to sort through.

    Greg said:

    Hey all! Welcome to everyone new- and nice to see the veterans back! This should be fun. So… I wonder- are we on the ground, and who will the baddies be? Grounders, Reapers, Mt Weather…??

    you replied:

    @Greg: that’s a good question. I don’t know much about the series. I read the first book ages ago and haven’t watched it yet, but from what I remember there’s the 100 (kids pitched to “Earth”/Earth) and another group on the surface? 🤔 That was at, like, the very end of book one though so who knows. 😅

    which because you are answering Gregs question of who the “baddies” might be I read as you joining him in theorizing which group might be the mafia. Maybe that’s me reading too much into things, but Greg asked who could the baddies be and you replied, good question here are the groups I’m aware of from the books. And I don’t really know how else to categorize that exchange other than to read it as you joining greg in speculating about factions.

  180. @Anne: I tried to explain, I haven’t seen the show or read the book except the first (now I’m checking Goodreads and apparently is was in 2015). I didn’t know whether it was appropriate to refer to them as the Ark kids or the 100 in conversation. After the bulk of the conversation toDay though, they’re apparently the same thing so..? 😅

  181. @Kerrie: ooohhh, I see what you mean now. I suppose that it a way to look at it. I’m not sure what I was thinking at the time I wrote it (I can barely remember this morning tbh 😆), but figuring out who else was potentially in the game was obviously on my mind, hence scanning Wikipedia (which apparently was lacking according to the information many other players have divulged toDay).

  182. I mentioned that I don’t want to vote Kara, and since there is a 4-way tie between the next most voted player (Dana, Jenn, Harker, and Nicole all with 2 votes), I want to

    VOTE HARKER

    by process of elimination because:

    – Nicole is on the board for voting Kara even though she seems genuine. However, since Nicole hasn’t checked in since making her vote, she hasn’t really had the chance to clear her name.

    – Dana has one vote for not being active, and one from the start of the day which isn’t enough to convince me to vote her.

    – Jenn has one vote for not meeting the comment minimum and one vote from @Maria who says that she ‘want[s] to vote for Kara’ but instead votes Jenn for some reason?

    Okay this may seem like I’m bandwagoning on Harker but I did type out my thoughts yesterday:

    1. The only thing I know for certain at this point is that everyone should know the name of their team (and maybe another team if they are specifically asked to target them but I don’t know if this happens??)

    2. So everyone that doesn’t know what to refer to the town as is not town (this was before I realised there may be two towns which kind of complicates things. but even if there are two town teams, I would have thought that most people would assume that they were the only town and referred to themselves as such)

    This is why Harker is the most suspicious for me at the moment.

  183. Voting Update:

    Kara (5)- Nicole, Greg, Amber G., Meeghan, Amber B.
    Dana (2) — Shannon, Beth
    Jenn (2)- Maria, Anna
    Harker (3) — Kerrie, Kerys, Anne
    Greg (1) — Kara
    Nicole (2)- Jenn, Jeann
    Kerrie (1)- Harker

    Not voting: Megan, Dana, Siran

    55 minutes to go!

  184. I swear the same thing happened in a previous game where I was explaining myself until I was blue in the face/repeating the same thing. 😣🙃

    @Kerys: I’ve said nothing about my team because we’re advised specifically to guard our information in the emails. As I’ve said previously, I was asking if the Ark kids/the 100 were the same/what were they referred to as in-universe because I have next to no information on the series unlike other players who have detailed things like characters, factions, etc. I’m confused as to why my asking is more suspect than anyone else in the game who hasn’t watched the show or read the books.

  185. CANC3L VOTE

    VOTE JENN

    She’s been under the radar and the comment about forgetting about the game due to her cat seems so weird to me right now.

    my cat turned off my computer two days ago and I forgot to reopen it 😦

    I probably messed up the quoting, I’m sorry! 😭

  186. Voting Update:

    Kara (4)- Nicole, Greg, Amber G., Meeghan
    Dana (2) — Shannon, Beth
    Jenn (3)- Maria, Anna, Amber B.
    Harker (3) — Kerrie, Kerys, Anne
    Greg (1) — Kara
    Nicole (2)- Jenn, Jeann
    Kerrie (1)- Harker

    Not voting: Megan, Dana, Siran

    @Amber B., fixed it!

    43 Minutesto go!

  187. @Amber B.: can I ask, what about Jenn’s comment was influential enough to make you change your vote when you’d said earlier something along the lines of that, while you didn’t know what you thought of Kara, you did think it was “good to know someone’s alliances with someone being voted off”?

  188. I’m going to

    CANCEL VOTE

    as I try to figure out whom to vote for.

    Self-preservation is definitely a factor here, yet Jenn and Harker are not whom I am most suspicious of at this moment.

    I will

    VOTE NICOLE

    for now, as her reasoning for voting for me is very contradictory. So is Meeghan’s choice to vote for me despite her believing there are multiple town alliances and it is not smart to vote members of any of them off at this point…

    I will try to come back before the time is up in a bit.

  189. Voting Update:

    Kara (4)- Nicole, Greg, Amber G., Meeghan
    Dana (2) — Shannon, Beth
    Jenn (3)- Maria, Anna, Amber B.
    Harker (3) — Kerrie, Kerys, Anne
    Nicole (3)- Jenn, Jeann, Kara
    Kerrie (1)- Harker

    Not voting: Megan, Dana, Siran

    18 Minutes to go!

  190. @Harker I took my vote off Kara because she would still be in the lead but Jenn’s non-activity and cat excuse felt really weird to me.

    I’m honestly at a loss to everyone right now. There’s mostly been talk of the various Townie groups and Baddie groups. I’m just not sure of what side anyone’s on so far.

  191. @Everyone: When voting, please place your vote on a separate line, so it’s easier for us to find them amidst your essays. 😄 Thank you!

  192. Ugh, I hate seeing so many votes on the board with good reasoning behind them, and feeling like my reasoning isn’t good enough. But if I throw my vote toward any of the 3-vote people, it’ll cause a tie and then we don’t learn *anything*. And one of us dies N1 anyway. 😦
    I’m so sorry, Kara- if you’re Town/Town-aligned, thank you for being bold and taking a risk, and I’m sorry I couldn’t protect you.

  193. @Kara:

    Self-preservation is definitely a factor here

    That’s a mood and a half. 😫

    CANCEL VOTE

    VOTE NICOLE

    I don’t understand her contradictory vote. Of the high votes persons, I don’t see Jenn in any particular light at the moment (say vs. Nicole). Kara I’m wary of because her boldness. I’ve said it somewhere toDay that it’s unusual so far as I can remember to be so on D1, which makes me think there is a reason. What that is, I don’t know. Could be a Jester type situation which I don’t think is inherently dangerous to anyone other than it means she would win her condition. Could be some kind of trap (always expect a trap 😂).

  194. Voting Update:

    Kara (4)- Nicole, Greg, Amber G., Meeghan
    Dana (2) — Shannon, Beth
    Jenn (3)- Maria, Anna, Amber B.
    Harker (3) — Kerrie, Kerys, Anne
    Nicole (4)- Jenn, Jeann, Kara, Harker

    Not voting: Megan, Dana, Siran

    10 minutes to go! If a tie occurs, there will be no elimination.

  195. Gorramit now there’s a tie! Argh!
    OK, fine:
    CANCEL VOTE

    VOTE NICOLE

    Because I agree it’s weird she said she thought Kara was “being genuine” but was also suspicious enough to vote for her. I know she said she had family over, so I’m guessing she won’t be checking back in. Sorry, Nicole! Just trying to ensure we get some info (and maybe, hopefully, get rid of a Mafia person)!

  196. Voting Update:

    Kara (4)- Nicole, Greg, Amber G., Meeghan
    Dana (1) — Shannon
    Jenn (3)- Maria, Anna, Amber B.
    Harker (3) — Kerrie, Kerys, Anne
    Nicole (5)- Jenn, Jeann, Kara, Harker, Beth

    Not voting: Megan, Dana, Siran

    8 Minutes!

  197. I woke up just in time for end of day, whew!! I’m not sure who to vote for. I’ve tried to read the last 12 hours of comments but am really struggling this Day. I’m placing my vote for this person because I feel like we can gain information on if their speculations were accurate when their role is revealed.

    VOTE KARA

  198. Voting Update:

    Kara (5)- Nicole, Greg, Amber G., Meeghan, Dana
    Dana (1) — Shannon
    Jenn (3)- Maria, Anna, Amber B.
    Harker (3) — Kerrie, Kerys, Anne
    Nicole (5)- Jenn, Jeann, Kara, Harker, Beth

    Not voting: Megan, Siran

    5 Minutes!

  199. Voting Update:

    Kara (6)- Nicole, Greg, Amber G., Meeghan, Dana, Kerrie
    Dana (1) — Shannon
    Jenn (3)- Maria, Anna, Amber B.
    Harker (2) — Kerys, Anne
    Nicole (5)- Jenn, Jeann, Kara, Harker, Beth

    Not voting: Megan, Siran

    4 Minutes!

  200. Just no way I can catch up I’m sorry, I don’t know why I had 8pm in my head but I did. I’m so out of the loop with the latest comments.

    I will say I had decided not to vote for Kara, I wanted to let it play longer. She’s definitely made a bold move and at the moment it can still go either way, for the town or against it. But wanted to give the benefit of the doubt.

    Can’t give a vote to anyone else really yet, I’m not caught up on everything so would be voting blindly. So sorry that I’m refraining but at this point I’d only be joining everyone else’s thoughts which would look insincere anyway. Just don’t have time to read and make a decision myself.

  201. And because I know someone will ask, and I’ll have forgotten my reasoning by the next game day. I’m voting for Kara over Nicole because a)Nicole hasn’t had a chance to answer the questions directed at her and Kara’s role reveal will give us, I think, more valuable information

  202. Day One has officially ended. The person with the most votes (7) is Nicole. Nicole was Carl Emerson, Team Mount Weather, Goon.

    It is now Night One. If you have a special role that involves a Night action, please submit the form by Tuesday 7pm GMT (48 hours from now, but honestly the sooner the better). The form can be found by clicking the “Current Game” link in the menu and scrolling to the bottom of the page.

    One more thing…

    You expected a twist, and we wouldn’t be hospitable gamemakers if we didn’t deliver. This edition, we have NIGHT EVENTS! These are 100% optional, but can give you a nice reward (or, whoops, maybe a penalty). Our first Night event goes like this:

    Your ship lands far, far away from where you and your fellow survivors expected to land. You have no supplies, no food, and the place you were told might have supplies is at least a day’s journey through unknown territory. What is your next step?

    If you’d like to enter, simply fill in the Night Action form with your response to our question. We’ll then randomly choose a winner (or loser).

    Day Two will start on Wednesday 7pm GMT. Any additional casualties will be revealed at that time. Good luck!

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